The problem is leftist bureaucrats in the Pentagon with stars on their shoulders and a rash of fruit salad on their chests.

As far as the rank and file, considering the terrible condition our armed forces are in, it is almost impossible to tell how divided the junior officers and enlisted are now. The leftist military social experiment is a freaking disaster.
Look at the direction the fools are going with recruitment:

US Navy appointed active-duty drag queen in diversity drive to boost sinking recruitment.

And, how about the big one, the one factor that makes the difference between victory and defeat - MORALE.

Yessir, any good soldier will tell you an army without high MORALE is basically fkd.

Morale in the US military today is at a historic low.

The only thing I am confident of is the officers and troops in the combat arms (and some who are not) who are not 'woke', or haven't succumbed to the wicked political correctness are not gonna take up arms against American citizens, orders or no orders. And that goes for NG troops, sheriffs, and police officers.

Stumbled on to this:

Under Biden, Military Morale Low And Sinking

Glenn Harlan Reynolds, a professor of law at the University of Tennessee, has a very good reading on the morale in today’s military. I’ve heard the exact same thing from serving officers in the DC area.

Reynolds: Our military’s civilian leadership is corrupt and incompetent. The brass commands respect neither among the citizenry nor the forces it commands. Mid-level officers are in a rage — a dangerous phenomenon that in many other nations triggers insurrections and coups.

Blessedly, our institutions retain enough strength to prevent such outcomes here. That said, we need to tend to those institutions more carefully, if we want them to continue to work.

According to Rasmussen, more than half of Americans rate President Joe Biden’s handling of Afghanistan as “poor.” His approval numbers have plummeted, and a majority of voters don’t trust administration reports on Afghanistan.

The Taliban and their Chinese allies have been mocking the United States on social media, while Beijing also openly threatens Taiwan, gloating that after the military humiliation of Afghanistan, Washington wouldn’t dare defend that island nation against invasion.

Biden’s stilted, disjointed speeches and clumsily scripted meetings with the families of dead service members haven’t helped. Nor has Vice President Kamala Harris impressed, with an awkward mission to Southeast Asia that merely underscored her unfitness to take over as president, if needed.

Meanwhile, the military command has failed miserably. Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has become the butt of jokes. A group of retired senior officers has called on him, and on Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, to resign. Milley, who found time to lecture us on the dangers of “white rage” last summer, has lately vanished from sight.

Meanwhile, the officers who actually do things are furious. A series of encrypted messages leaked to the media shows officers on the ground in Kabul blasting their orders, complaining that they were being forced to leave Americans behind. “We are f–king abandoning American citizens,” wrote a colonel with the 82d Airborne detachment there. Regular troops were reportedly apoplectic that they weren’t allowed to go rescue US citizens, as British and French forces did.

As this debacle unfolds, the field- and company-grade officers — captains through colonels — are complaining about a double standard in military management: If they screw up even a little, their careers are over. But when the generals screw up, there are no consequences, even when lives or billions of dollars are wasted; then they retire to fat contractor paychecks.

We're specifically addressing the military. However, since you opened the door, there are bound to be groups like the Oath Keepers, who admittedly I know nothing about, that will form when the Constitution is blatantly violated. It is the correct thing to do! Yes, of course. I agree there are indeed many Vets who support Marxism, knowingly or unwittingly, also violating their sacred oath. Odd that citizens never have to take an oath to support the Constitution and many of the Leftist groomed bastards refuse to say the Pledge of Allegiance and take a knee at the presenting of colors and the National Anthem.

Meanwhile, would you care to comment on the topic?

The military enlistment oath of office clearly states:  , "I___________________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."


One notable difference between the officer and enlisted oaths is that the oath taken by officers does not include any provision to obey orders. It's notable that both oaths are taken for life. Furthermore, for enlisted personnel they are bound to obey only lawful orders.


Joe Biden is disobeying the Constitution not only by allowing but by intentionally encouraging an invasion into our once soverign nation.  This decision unquestionably marks him a domestic enemy.


Our military, presumably violating their own oath of office, has not mobilized in force and stopped this invasion? Why?


Given this conflict, must the Military first accede to Biden as President or to the Constitution?  


It's glaringly apparent to me personally that Biden and his Marxist Administration holds our military in disdain.  He's allowing our warriors to be changed into social justice, chardonnay sipping girlie boy, social justice warriors subservient to his whims. 


My question is what position and/or actions do you believe it is permissible for our Military leaders, absent the Washington hierarchy, to take? I know what I think and feel.

The problem is leftist bureaucrats in the Pentagon with stars on their shoulders and a rash of fruit salad on their chests.

As far as the rank and file, considering the terrible condition our armed forces are in, it is almost impossible to tell how divided the junior officers and enlisted are now. The leftist military social experiment is a freaking disaster.
Look at the direction the fools are going with recruitment:

US Navy appointed active-duty drag queen in diversity drive to boost sinking recruitment.

And, how about the big one, the one factor that makes the difference between victory and defeat - MORALE.

Yessir, any good soldier will tell you an army without high MORALE is basically fkd.

Morale in the US military today is at a historic low.

The only thing I am confident of is the officers and troops in the combat arms (and some who are not) who are not 'woke', or haven't succumbed to the wicked political correctness are not gonna take up arms against American citizens, orders or no orders. And that goes for NG troops, sheriffs, and police officers.

Stumbled on to this:

Under Biden, Military Morale Low And Sinking

Glenn Harlan Reynolds, a professor of law at the University of Tennessee, has a very good reading on the morale in today’s military. I’ve heard the exact same thing from serving officers in the DC area.

Reynolds: Our military’s civilian leadership is corrupt and incompetent. The brass commands respect neither among the citizenry nor the forces it commands. Mid-level officers are in a rage — a dangerous phenomenon that in many other nations triggers insurrections and coups.

Blessedly, our institutions retain enough strength to prevent such outcomes here. That said, we need to tend to those institutions more carefully, if we want them to continue to work.

According to Rasmussen, more than half of Americans rate President Joe Biden’s handling of Afghanistan as “poor.” His approval numbers have plummeted, and a majority of voters don’t trust administration reports on Afghanistan.

The Taliban and their Chinese allies have been mocking the United States on social media, while Beijing also openly threatens Taiwan, gloating that after the military humiliation of Afghanistan, Washington wouldn’t dare defend that island nation against invasion.

Biden’s stilted, disjointed speeches and clumsily scripted meetings with the families of dead service members haven’t helped. Nor has Vice President Kamala Harris impressed, with an awkward mission to Southeast Asia that merely underscored her unfitness to take over as president, if needed.

Meanwhile, the military command has failed miserably. Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has become the butt of jokes. A group of retired senior officers has called on him, and on Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, to resign. Milley, who found time to lecture us on the dangers of “white rage” last summer, has lately vanished from sight.

Meanwhile, the officers who actually do things are furious. A series of encrypted messages leaked to the media shows officers on the ground in Kabul blasting their orders, complaining that they were being forced to leave Americans behind. “We are f–king abandoning American citizens,” wrote a colonel with the 82d Airborne detachment there. Regular troops were reportedly apoplectic that they weren’t allowed to go rescue US citizens, as British and French forces did.

As this debacle unfolds, the field- and company-grade officers — captains through colonels — are complaining about a double standard in military management: If they screw up even a little, their careers are over. But when the generals screw up, there are no consequences, even when lives or billions of dollars are wasted; then they retire to fat contractor paychecks.

I was only 18 when I raised my hand and took the Military oath. It was pretty much ceremonial, but as time went by, and I volunteered for the number one combat ready outfit at that time , the 82nd Airborne, I totally understood the meaning and purpose of that oath.

Very hard to answer the question about the Military over riding their Commander in Chief. I was there a long time ago, 1958-1961, and at that time we had respect for our Commander in Chief and the Military leaders. As of now there is absolutely no reason to respect most of them. I would like to think that the 82nd is still strong, tough, patriotic and combat ready.

Military rising up against a President is something that happens in other countries and it rarely turns out well, but the present situation in America is not turning out well either. So if we had courageous leaders who understand that our constitution, which we swore to protect and defend, saw a need to go against a Commander in Chief, it would be a very serious situation. Much better if we could settle the problem at the ballot box, but that is being taken away from us also, so only time will tell. In the meantime pray for wisdom and courage.

Government sanctioned .
Not private.


Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection - Georgetown Law.

They can also be shot as terrorists if they have weapons near any polling places.
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The military enlistment oath of office clearly states:  , "I___________________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."


One notable difference between the officer and enlisted oaths is that the oath taken by officers does not include any provision to obey orders. It's notable that both oaths are taken for life. Furthermore, for enlisted personnel they are bound to obey only lawful orders.


Joe Biden is disobeying the Constitution not only by allowing but by intentionally encouraging an invasion into our once soverign nation.  This decision unquestionably marks him a domestic enemy.


Our military, presumably violating their own oath of office, has not mobilized in force and stopped this invasion? Why?


Given this conflict, must the Military first accede to Biden as President or to the Constitution?  


It's glaringly apparent to me personally that Biden and his Marxist Administration holds our military in disdain.  He's allowing our warriors to be changed into social justice, chardonnay sipping girlie boy, social justice warriors subservient to his whims. 


My question is what position and/or actions do you believe it is permissible for our Military leaders, absent the Washington hierarchy, to take? I know what I think and feel.

I served from 59 thru 80 so I share the same sentiment as you do. No one ever foresaw a POTUS blatently violating the Constitution as Biden and his Administration have, hence the question regarding to whom does our military primarily owe, support, defend, obey & give allegiance? If it is the Constitution first, then what is their present recourse? Is it to simply stand down and be quiet or to mobolize and defend our border and in doing so, defend our Constitution? To defend our border would send a clear message to Biden and future generations to stay within the boundaries of our Constitution.