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Feb 19, 2023 16:24:47   #
Cuda2020
 
American Vet wrote:
How about we first get a real report from an unbiased entity, other then FOX.
And what part of the FOX article is 'biased'?


They're always biased, there's always a slant. Get statistics from an unbiased source.

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Feb 19, 2023 16:29:19   #
American Vet
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
They're always biased, there's always a slant. Get statistics from an unbiased source.


So you are unable to point out any bias........

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Feb 19, 2023 16:34:05   #
Cuda2020
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***They are criminals because they know no other way.
>>>Maybe that is because they were taught/not taught by Union Public School indoctrinator/nonteachers.


Please, give it a rest, you're just babbling ridiculous righty banter. Indoctrination BS

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Feb 19, 2023 16:57:25   #
Cuda2020
 
JFlorio wrote:
Just because a source is rated either right or left doesn't mean the story is not factual. Those ratings are generally done by left leaning fact checkers who come with their own bias. Those ratings generally reflect the leanings of the commentators who are opinion "slots". They are criminals because they CHOSE to be criminals and as long as snowflakes like you make excuses for bad behavior you will get more bad behavior. My dad lived through the Great Depression. Not only were they hungry all the time but they never stole or accepted relief. It's called morals.
Just because a source is rated either right or lef... (show quote)


Did I say it wasn't factual? I'm sure some facts are involved and integrated with the slant. You can't get out of your own way to make a descent response. They CHOSE, did they choose where they were brought up and lived, what type of environment they were conditioned to. Also, if you took the time to read my comments... I was all for people being responsible for their actions, but it is clearly much more complicated then that, a twisted tree takes time to replant and straighten out. but isn't that what we want in the long haul, to make people productive and independent. People can be taught and reconditioned, unless of course they're sick individuals. As far as criminals having guns, that's completely unacceptable and I would do random checks on where they live along with a thorough search and seizures.

Of course you have to get off topic to slide in a personal insult, looks like you haven't changed. How am I a snowflake? I never make excuses for bad behavior, so that's a blatant lie. Your last comment on your dad and moral only proves you're completely clueless of the conditions kids are brought up in, every day of their lives, we never try to really fix it, we just turn our backs, wait for them to turn into criminals then lock them up for probably most of their lives, going in and out. Do the math, is it worth taking control of kids for twelve years, versus supporting them in a prison under lock up being completely unproductive for themselves their family and our country. Look at the big picture and not a pimple on a cheek.

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Feb 19, 2023 16:58:49   #
Cuda2020
 
American Vet wrote:
So you are unable to point out any bias........


No, why bother, they've already proved themselves in that category. Pay attention, I was asking for something more accurate, but on the topic I was also agreeing.

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Feb 19, 2023 17:05:36   #
American Vet
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
No, why bother, they've already proved themselves in that category. Pay attention, I was asking for something more accurate, but on the topic I was also agreeing.


I am paying attention.

You are unable to produce anything to back your claim except "They've already proved themselves".

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Feb 19, 2023 17:06:57   #
Cuda2020
 
American Vet wrote:
I am paying attention.

You are unable to produce anything to back your claim except "They've already proved themselves".


I don't have to, but here ya go...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

Overall, we rate Fox News right biased based on editorial positions that align with the right and Questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, the use of poor sources, and numerous false claims and failed fact checks. Straight news reporting from beat reporters is generally fact-based and accurate, which earns them a Mixed factual rating.

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Feb 19, 2023 18:28:33   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I also don't think "zero bail" is a good idea either. It should be repealed ASAP and hopefully no other state or County approves it.


It's a progressive thing.

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Feb 19, 2023 18:45:35   #
American Vet
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
I don't have to, but here ya go...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

Overall, we rate Fox News right biased based on editorial positions that align with the right and Questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, the use of poor sources, and numerous false claims and failed fact checks. Straight news reporting from beat reporters is generally fact-based and accurate, which earns them a Mixed factual rating.


My fact checkers say your fact checker is a scam.

It has been criticised for its methodology and accuracy.
According to Daniel Funke and Alexios Mantzarlis of the Poynter Institute, "Media Bias/Fact Check is a widely cited source for news stories and even studies about misinformation, despite the fact that its method is in no way scientific."[8] In 2018, the Columbia Journalism Review identified Media Bias/Fact Check as "an armchair media analysis."[9] Additionally, the Columbia Journalism Review described Media Bias/Fact Check as an amateur attempt at categorizing media bias and characterized their assessments as "subjective assessments [that] leave room for human biases, or even simple inconsistencies, to creep in".[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Bias/Fact_Check

Palmer Report exclusive: “Media Bias Fact Check” is a malicious scam site
One look at the “Media Bias Fact Check” website reveals it to be something that looks like it was created in 1995. Despite claiming in its tag line to be “The most comprehensive media bias resource,” the site turns out to simply be one guy named Dave Van Zandt who posts whatever he feels like. He claims to use a “strict methodology” for assigning bias ratings to various news outlets, but his “ratings” typically read like the gibberish one might find in an unmoderated comment section in the lowest corners of the internet.
https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/palmer-report-exclusive-media-bias-fact-check/2115/

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Feb 19, 2023 18:55:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
Did I say it wasn't factual? I'm sure some facts are involved and integrated with the slant. You can't get out of your own way to make a descent response. They CHOSE, did they choose where they were brought up and lived, what type of environment they were conditioned to. Also, if you took the time to read my comments... I was all for people being responsible for their actions, but it is clearly much more complicated then that, a twisted tree takes time to replant and straighten out. but isn't that what we want in the long haul, to make people productive and independent. People can be taught and reconditioned, unless of course they're sick individuals. As far as criminals having guns, that's completely unacceptable and I would do random checks on where they live along with a thorough search and seizures.

Of course you have to get off topic to slide in a personal insult, looks like you haven't changed. How am I a snowflake? I never make excuses for bad behavior, so that's a blatant lie. Your last comment on your dad and moral only proves you're completely clueless of the conditions kids are brought up in, every day of their lives, we never try to really fix it, we just turn our backs, wait for them to turn into criminals then lock them up for probably most of their lives, going in and out. Do the math, is it worth taking control of kids for twelve years, versus supporting them in a prison under lock up being completely unproductive for themselves their family and our country. Look at the big picture and not a pimple on a cheek.
Did I say it wasn't factual? I'm sure some facts a... (show quote)


More excuses for bad behavior. You are a snowflake because you look for justification for bad behavior. How do you fix it? Throw more money at it? Typical progressive/democrat way. A school in Baltimore had all children test 0 proficiency in math and the state spends $17,500 per student. The reason I insult you is, one I don't like you, and two, it is you, and people like you that are the problem. The problem needs eliminated. Progressive policies have ruined discipline in schools, and the family unit in the minority community. You stupid progressives talk a good game and never have a real solution. Tell me: How you would fix it? Just how do you believe in a Democratic Republic you are going to take control of kids for twelve years? You can not legislate morality. Progressives are idiots.

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Feb 19, 2023 18:56:19   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
American Vet wrote:
My fact checkers say your fact checker is a scam.

It has been criticised for its methodology and accuracy.
According to Daniel Funke and Alexios Mantzarlis of the Poynter Institute, "Media Bias/Fact Check is a widely cited source for news stories and even studies about misinformation, despite the fact that its method is in no way scientific."[8] In 2018, the Columbia Journalism Review identified Media Bias/Fact Check as "an armchair media analysis."[9] Additionally, the Columbia Journalism Review described Media Bias/Fact Check as an amateur attempt at categorizing media bias and characterized their assessments as "subjective assessments [that] leave room for human biases, or even simple inconsistencies, to creep in".[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Bias/Fact_Check

Palmer Report exclusive: “Media Bias Fact Check” is a malicious scam site
One look at the “Media Bias Fact Check” website reveals it to be something that looks like it was created in 1995. Despite claiming in its tag line to be “The most comprehensive media bias resource,” the site turns out to simply be one guy named Dave Van Zandt who posts whatever he feels like. He claims to use a “strict methodology” for assigning bias ratings to various news outlets, but his “ratings” typically read like the gibberish one might find in an unmoderated comment section in the lowest corners of the internet.
https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/palmer-report-exclusive-media-bias-fact-check/2115/
b My fact checkers say your fact checker is a sca... (show quote)


Won't make a dent. Progressives are incapable of learning they were wrong.

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Feb 19, 2023 19:47:51   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
How about we first get a real report from an unbiased entity, other then FOX. Here's what I'm for, consequences of actions, therefore if they go out and get arrested again, the penalties and times served will be doubled, also not to sit in jail but on some kind of hard labor work detail, along with community service, maybe they should go back to their home town and help fix it up, clean it up, not to mention some kind of self-improvement class to learn a laboring skill. This cost can be offset by their labor. They are criminals because they know no other way.
How about we first get a real report from an unbia... (show quote)


” This cost can be offset by their labor.” There is the issue. ACLU and progressives do not believe prisoners should be forced to labor, paid or not.

Now, on to story time. A decade or so ago, when The Great Commonwealth of Virginia had not been overrun by progressive socialist, the prison in The Valley had a carpentry program for prisoners. A retired master carpenter went to the prison, established a carpentry shop and taught prisoners skills. They learned repair, refinishing and some building. If one had the right connections you could have pieces of furniture repaired and or refinished, for the cost of supplies and a small gratuity to the prisoner. Not a single prisoner who participated in that program was ever returned to prison! Of course, that was before criminals were the victims not the people they committed crimes against.

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Feb 19, 2023 19:50:49   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
I don't have to, but here ya go...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

Overall, we rate Fox News right biased based on editorial positions that align with the right and Questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, the use of poor sources, and numerous false claims and failed fact checks. Straight news reporting from beat reporters is generally fact-based and accurate, which earns them a Mixed factual rating.


They have zero investigative journalists.
Things may be fact based to start but then comes the faux spin .
As an opinion of the news.

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Feb 19, 2023 19:55:17   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
AuntiE wrote:
” This cost can be offset by their labor.” There is the issue. ACLU and progressives do not believe prisoners should be forced to labor, paid or not.

Now, on to story time. A decade or so ago, when The Great Commonwealth of Virginia had not been overrun by progressive socialist, the prison in The Valley had a carpentry program for prisoners. A retired master carpenter went to the prison, established a carpentry shop and taught prisoners skills. They learned repair, refinishing and some building. If one had the right connections you could have pieces of furniture repaired and or refinished, for the cost of supplies and a small gratuity to the prisoner. Not a single prisoner who participated in that program was ever returned to prison! Of course, that was before criminals were the victims not the people they committed crimes against.
i ” This cost can be offset by their labor.” /i ... (show quote)


Slavery is still legal in US Prisons.
Seriously.
I’m not making this up .
So , prison industries have very low labor costs.
Or very high profit margins.
Depending on how you see it.
You pay for the prison systems free labor for industry .

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Feb 19, 2023 21:31:25   #
Justice101
 
American Vet wrote:
My fact checkers say your fact checker is a scam.

It has been criticised for its methodology and accuracy.
According to Daniel Funke and Alexios Mantzarlis of the Poynter Institute, "Media Bias/Fact Check is a widely cited source for news stories and even studies about misinformation, despite the fact that its method is in no way scientific."[8] In 2018, the Columbia Journalism Review identified Media Bias/Fact Check as "an armchair media analysis."[9] Additionally, the Columbia Journalism Review described Media Bias/Fact Check as an amateur attempt at categorizing media bias and characterized their assessments as "subjective assessments [that] leave room for human biases, or even simple inconsistencies, to creep in".[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Bias/Fact_Check

Palmer Report exclusive: “Media Bias Fact Check” is a malicious scam site
One look at the “Media Bias Fact Check” website reveals it to be something that looks like it was created in 1995. Despite claiming in its tag line to be “The most comprehensive media bias resource,” the site turns out to simply be one guy named Dave Van Zandt who posts whatever he feels like. He claims to use a “strict methodology” for assigning bias ratings to various news outlets, but his “ratings” typically read like the gibberish one might find in an unmoderated comment section in the lowest corners of the internet.
https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/palmer-report-exclusive-media-bias-fact-check/2115/
b My fact checkers say your fact checker is a sca... (show quote)




The 99% of "fact checkers" are left-leaning and biased "opinion checkers". If a news source had any stories conflicting with their global warming cult, or is conservative, they are deemed low credibility sites.

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