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Feb 1, 2023 23:20:00   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on President Trump's home..
With FBI and lights and press everywhere, while he was cooperating!!.. They were In his Mar A Lago home, While he wasn't home, they KNEW he wasn't there...They were In the Room where said docs were stored, they called him the next day to ask that he put an additional lock on said storage area..He told them they could take them there and then, they declined, so he told them He'd help in anyway he could.. He did, Soo Trump is not Home.. next thing happens is the aforementioned, he was raided for NO reason other than Politics!! Period.. A distraction! They wouldn't let his lawyers supervise.. I'm Bettin NONE of those FBI folks had security clearance to even LOOK at those docs, if they did look at, handle, or otherwise peruse said docs, they also Broke the law..

Same goes for Biden's attorneys.. They ALSO did not have security clearance to look or even handle those documents..

We have documents that Hunter Biden had access to, y'all know he did..
We have Emails from H. Biden to his father and his business partners etc et al.. We had Biden's Personal lawyers perusing CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS~~ from as far back as Biden's Senate Years!!!

We had Pence.. his measly one classified document..

The Biggest difference.. is that ONLY the president of the United States has Full clearance to declassify anything he wanted to W/out a By your leave from his Minions..He was still President, until approx 11:30 am.. give or take half hour.. But there is also this nice little fact.. TRUMP did NOT pack his OWN boxes!! There is also a Memo, from Trump Declassifying docs including all the Russia Russia Russia hoax docs and evidence.. He Declassified that long before even Biden was in the white house.. I've seen the Memo.. As much as the left would have you believe there is a Process to declassify, I call Bullshit on that too.. they only say that to TRY to make themselves either useful or self important.. He does NOT..Per the Constitution have to say Shit to ANYONE regarding docs he's declassifies, and as a matter of fact.. as soon as he reads a classified doc in front of press or outloud to anyone, it's automatically declassified..

Honestly I don't give a damn who wants to debunk this, like the liberals they are.. Have fun with that!!



The VP has NO such Rights!!
A Senator DAMN sure doesn't have the right!!

Yea yea.. I know, Obummer signed an "Executive order" allowing VP's to declassify.. I call Bullshit!!.. An Executive order does absolutely ZERO as far as Law or Constitutionality!!.. In Order to change the constitution there has to be an amendment.. and 2/3 vote of both houses..
Obama, Much Like O'Biden.. did NOT have the right to declassify.. Period Full Stop!!

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Feb 1, 2023 23:29:00   #
PeterS
 
Larai wrote:
Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on President Trump's home..
With FBI and lights and press everywhere, while he was cooperating!!.. They were In his Mar A Lago home, While he wasn't home, they KNEW he wasn't there...They were In the Room where said docs were stored, they called him the next day to ask that he put an additional lock on said storage area..He told them they could take them there and then, they declined, so he told them He'd help in anyway he could.. He did, Soo Trump is not Home.. next thing happens is the aforementioned, he was raided for NO reason other than Politics!! Period.. A distraction! They wouldn't let his lawyers supervise.. I'm Bettin NONE of those FBI folks had security clearance to even LOOK at those docs, if they did look at, handle, or otherwise peruse said docs, they also Broke the law..

Same goes for Biden's attorneys.. They ALSO did not have security clearance to look or even handle those documents..

We have documents that Hunter Biden had access to, y'all know he did..
We have Emails from H. Biden to his father and his business partners etc et al.. We had Biden's Personal lawyers perusing CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS~~ from as far back as Biden's Senate Years!!!

We had Pence.. his measly one classified document..

The Biggest difference.. is that ONLY the president of the United States has Full clearance to declassify anything he wanted to W/out a By your leave from his Minions..

The VP has NO such Rights!!
A Senator DAMN sure doesn't have the right!!

Yea yea.. I know, Obummer signed an "Executive order" allowing VP's to declassify.. I call Bullshit!!.. An Executive order does absolutely ZERO as far as Law or Constitutionality!!.. In Order to change the constitution there has to be an amendment.. and 2/3 vote of both houses..
Obama, Much Like O'Biden.. did NOT have the right to declassify.. Period Full Stop!!
Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on Pr... (show quote)

Yeah, but only Trump was trying to hide them...

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Feb 1, 2023 23:43:01   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Larai wrote:
Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on President Trump's home..
With FBI and lights and press everywhere, while he was cooperating!!.. They were In his Mar A Lago home, While he wasn't home, they KNEW he wasn't there...They were In the Room where said docs were stored, they called him the next day to ask that he put an additional lock on said storage area..He told them they could take them there and then, they declined, so he told them He'd help in anyway he could.. He did, Soo Trump is not Home.. next thing happens is the aforementioned, he was raided for NO reason other than Politics!! Period.. A distraction! They wouldn't let his lawyers supervise.. I'm Bettin NONE of those FBI folks had security clearance to even LOOK at those docs, if they did look at, handle, or otherwise peruse said docs, they also Broke the law..

Same goes for Biden's attorneys.. They ALSO did not have security clearance to look or even handle those documents..

We have documents that Hunter Biden had access to, y'all know he did..
We have Emails from H. Biden to his father and his business partners etc et al.. We had Biden's Personal lawyers perusing CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS~~ from as far back as Biden's Senate Years!!!

We had Pence.. his measly one classified document..

The Biggest difference.. is that ONLY the president of the United States has Full clearance to declassify anything he wanted to W/out a By your leave from his Minions..

The VP has NO such Rights!!
A Senator DAMN sure doesn't have the right!!

Yea yea.. I know, Obummer signed an "Executive order" allowing VP's to declassify.. I call Bullshit!!.. An Executive order does absolutely ZERO as far as Law or Constitutionality!!.. In Order to change the constitution there has to be an amendment.. and 2/3 vote of both houses..
Obama, Much Like O'Biden.. did NOT have the right to declassify.. Period Full Stop!!
Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on Pr... (show quote)


Lord you are pitiful.. you must live in some world of your own..

trump fought tooth and nail for months to hide the docs he stole.. first he said he did not have them, then he said he would not return them, then he said he had them but declassified them by thinking about it..

The raid was perfect.. by the letter . not an I not dotted not a T not crossed..

The criminal has belonged in prison for decades.. while he will probably die without ever having the orange jump suit. every effort needs to made to cleanse our soiled government and remove every vestige of the criminal who held a spot within the oval housing American legislation..

Beyond that criminal prosecution the gov also needs to clear up the handling of classified docs.. first of, the days schedules of the the VP/Pres daily lunches and all the rest does not seem to need classification.. also once the event/time line etc is past, declassify those daily docs.



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Feb 1, 2023 23:47:49   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, but only Trump was trying to hide them...


Peter.. Well.. I find that highly amusing, given the FBI were with HIM and his attorneys in that room that he had said docs in.. They called him after going through what he had, and requested he put another lock on it, NOT only that, But that entire complex is guarded by Secret service!! He wasn't Hiding anything, and in fact the day they were indeed in that storage area Trump told them to go ahead and take the boxes, they opted out and just requested the Lock.. I'm amused that your spewing party line.. He did have the authority to declassify, bc he was still president when he left the white house on the 20th.. BEFORE Bitme's inauguration..

It also astounds me that anyone in this Great united states would still defend Biden.. which I'm sorry Peter but that sounds like party line spew also.. that is what ALL liberal media has said, but he wasn't hiding anything, Unlike Biden & His Drug Addled Son!!

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Feb 2, 2023 00:35:51   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Larai wrote:
Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on President Trump's home..
With FBI and lights and press everywhere, while he was cooperating!!.. They were In his Mar A Lago home, While he wasn't home, they KNEW he wasn't there...They were In the Room where said docs were stored, they called him the next day to ask that he put an additional lock on said storage area..He told them they could take them there and then, they declined, so he told them He'd help in anyway he could.. He did, Soo Trump is not Home.. next thing happens is the aforementioned, he was raided for NO reason other than Politics!! Period.. A distraction! They wouldn't let his lawyers supervise.. I'm Bettin NONE of those FBI folks had security clearance to even LOOK at those docs, if they did look at, handle, or otherwise peruse said docs, they also Broke the law..

Same goes for Biden's attorneys.. They ALSO did not have security clearance to look or even handle those documents..

We have documents that Hunter Biden had access to, y'all know he did..
We have Emails from H. Biden to his father and his business partners etc et al.. We had Biden's Personal lawyers perusing CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS~~ from as far back as Biden's Senate Years!!!

We had Pence.. his measly one classified document..

The Biggest difference.. is that ONLY the president of the United States has Full clearance to declassify anything he wanted to W/out a By your leave from his Minions..He was still President, until approx 11:30 am.. give or take half hour.. But there is also this nice little fact.. TRUMP did NOT pack his OWN boxes!! There is also a Memo, from Trump Declassifying docs including all the Russia Russia Russia hoax docs and evidence.. He Declassified that long before even Biden was in the white house.. I've seen the Memo.. As much as the left would have you believe there is a Process to declassify, I call Bullshit on that too.. they only say that to TRY to make themselves either useful or self important.. He does NOT..Per the Constitution have to say Shit to ANYONE regarding docs he's declassifies, and as a matter of fact.. as soon as he reads a classified doc in front of press or outloud to anyone, it's automatically declassified..

Honestly I don't give a damn who wants to debunk this, like the liberals they are.. Have fun with that!!



The VP has NO such Rights!!
A Senator DAMN sure doesn't have the right!!

Yea yea.. I know, Obummer signed an "Executive order" allowing VP's to declassify.. I call Bullshit!!.. An Executive order does absolutely ZERO as far as Law or Constitutionality!!.. In Order to change the constitution there has to be an amendment.. and 2/3 vote of both houses..
Obama, Much Like O'Biden.. did NOT have the right to declassify.. Period Full Stop!!
Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on Pr... (show quote)


I still have a problem with a Senator removing classified docs from the SCIF. They are not suppose to remove them from my understang. Biden a liar, cheat and thief, this is just more evidence of it.

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Feb 2, 2023 00:37:03   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, but only Trump was trying to hide them...


Ahhahahaa, Ahahahaha Ahahahaha Ahahahaha, where ya get that one?

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Feb 2, 2023 00:55:40   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
microphor wrote:
I still have a problem with a Senator removing classified docs from the SCIF. They are not suppose to remove them from my understang. Biden a liar, cheat and thief, this is just more evidence of it.


I have a Massive issue with ALL things Biden!!!.. He has Always Been, and will Always BE til the day he takes his final dirt nap a Liar, cheat and an Extortionist..and His son didn't fall far from That Tree!!! He Should be hung for out right Treason!!.. His having those docs yes, Bad... Who he gave access to them is doubly egregious!

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Feb 2, 2023 05:34:02   #
elledee
 
permafrost wrote:
Lord you are pitiful.. you must live in some world of your own..

trump fought tooth and nail for months to hide the docs he stole.. first he said he did not have them, then he said he would not return them, then he said he had them but declassified them by thinking about it..

The raid was perfect.. by the letter . not an I not dotted not a T not crossed..

The criminal has belonged in prison for decades.. while he will probably die without ever having the orange jump suit. every effort needs to made to cleanse our soiled government and remove every vestige of the criminal who held a spot within the oval housing American legislation..

Beyond that criminal prosecution the gov also needs to clear up the handling of classified docs.. first of, the days schedules of the the VP/Pres daily lunches and all the rest does not seem to need classification.. also once the event/time line etc is past, declassify those daily docs.
Lord you are pitiful.. you must live in some world... (show quote)


You are lying...AGAIN...This was just another try by the corrupt bribem unjustice dept. to try and smear Trump you know like what you always try to do with all you false and twisted MSNBC twisted info. The guily one is the man who had no legal right to have classified documents your buddy the hair sniffer.The info you base your post on is the same lies the demonrats and their media presstitutes have been regurgitating for months but your not pitiful your just useful idiot and a tool

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Feb 2, 2023 05:42:30   #
elledee
 
Larai wrote:
I have a Massive issue with ALL things Biden!!!.. He has Always Been, and will Always BE til the day he takes his final dirt nap a Liar, cheat and an Extortionist..and His son didn't fall far from That Tree!!! He Should be hung for out right Treason!!.. His having those docs yes, Bad... Who he gave access to them is doubly egregious!


Larai your are absolutely right.... Trump's not perfect but he's a saint next to this treasonous rapist pervert.

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Feb 2, 2023 07:12:20   #
American Vet
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, but only Trump was trying to hide them...


BS

I guess that's why President Trump invited the FBI to his home 2 months before the raid - so he could "hide" documents.


After Trump and his staff conducted the move “on a condensed timeframe,” employees at the National Archives inquired with concerns that the former president may have inadvertently transferred classified documents with him. In January, Trump then contacted the Archives, asking movers from the agency to pick up 15 boxes of documents.

The former president later determined a search of his estate may be necessary to find additional documents and chose to invite DOJ Security Division Chief Jay Bratt into his home to retrieve the documents. Accompanying Bratt were three FBI agents.

“Whatever you need, just let us know,” former President Trump told the agents prior to the search, the motion said.
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After Trump handed over some documents Bratt had requested, the DOJ official asked for and was given permission to search a storage room.

It was then that one of the FBI agents made an odd statement.

“Thank you. You did not need to show us the storage room, but we appreciate it. Now it all makes sense,” the agent said.

Bratt later asked Trump to secure the storage room, prompting Trump to direct his staff to do so.

Two months later, on Aug. 8, FBI agents arrived at Mar-a-Lago to conduct their unannounced raid.


https://www.westernjournal.com/fbi-visited-mar-lago-2-months-raid-said-now-makes-sense-looking-around-storeroom-lawsuit/

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Feb 2, 2023 07:14:30   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
Lord you are pitiful.. .


And you are a liar - and a pretty stupid one at that.

After Trump and his staff conducted the move “on a condensed timeframe,” employees at the National Archives inquired with concerns that the former president may have inadvertently transferred classified documents with him. In January, Trump then contacted the Archives, asking movers from the agency to pick up 15 boxes of documents.

The former president later determined a search of his estate may be necessary to find additional documents and chose to invite DOJ Security Division Chief Jay Bratt into his home to retrieve the documents. Accompanying Bratt were three FBI agents.

“Whatever you need, just let us know,” former President Trump told the agents prior to the search, the motion said.
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After Trump handed over some documents Bratt had requested, the DOJ official asked for and was given permission to search a storage room.

It was then that one of the FBI agents made an odd statement.

“Thank you. You did not need to show us the storage room, but we appreciate it. Now it all makes sense,” the agent said.

Bratt later asked Trump to secure the storage room, prompting Trump to direct his staff to do so.

Two months later, on Aug. 8, FBI agents arrived at Mar-a-Lago to conduct their unannounced raid.


https://www.westernjournal.com/fbi-visited-mar-lago-2-months-raid-said-now-makes-sense-looking-around-storeroom-lawsuit/

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Feb 2, 2023 08:34:54   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Larai wrote:
I have a Massive issue with ALL things Biden!!!.. He has Always Been, and will Always BE til the day he takes his final dirt nap a Liar, cheat and an Extortionist..and His son didn't fall far from That Tree!!! He Should be hung for out right Treason!!.. His having those docs yes, Bad... Who he gave access to them is doubly egregious!


I agree and why hasn't someone in archives noted they were missing before now?

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Feb 2, 2023 11:25:20   #
Justice101
 
Larai wrote:
Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on President Trump's home..
With FBI and lights and press everywhere, while he was cooperating!!.. They were In his Mar A Lago home, While he wasn't home, they KNEW he wasn't there...They were In the Room where said docs were stored, they called him the next day to ask that he put an additional lock on said storage area..He told them they could take them there and then, they declined, so he told them He'd help in anyway he could.. He did, Soo Trump is not Home.. next thing happens is the aforementioned, he was raided for NO reason other than Politics!! Period.. A distraction! They wouldn't let his lawyers supervise.. I'm Bettin NONE of those FBI folks had security clearance to even LOOK at those docs, if they did look at, handle, or otherwise peruse said docs, they also Broke the law..

Same goes for Biden's attorneys.. They ALSO did not have security clearance to look or even handle those documents..

We have documents that Hunter Biden had access to, y'all know he did..
We have Emails from H. Biden to his father and his business partners etc et al.. We had Biden's Personal lawyers perusing CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS~~ from as far back as Biden's Senate Years!!!

We had Pence.. his measly one classified document..

The Biggest difference.. is that ONLY the president of the United States has Full clearance to declassify anything he wanted to W/out a By your leave from his Minions..He was still President, until approx 11:30 am.. give or take half hour.. But there is also this nice little fact.. TRUMP did NOT pack his OWN boxes!! There is also a Memo, from Trump Declassifying docs including all the Russia Russia Russia hoax docs and evidence.. He Declassified that long before even Biden was in the white house.. I've seen the Memo.. As much as the left would have you believe there is a Process to declassify, I call Bullshit on that too.. they only say that to TRY to make themselves either useful or self important.. He does NOT..Per the Constitution have to say Shit to ANYONE regarding docs he's declassifies, and as a matter of fact.. as soon as he reads a classified doc in front of press or outloud to anyone, it's automatically declassified..

Honestly I don't give a damn who wants to debunk this, like the liberals they are.. Have fun with that!!



The VP has NO such Rights!!
A Senator DAMN sure doesn't have the right!!

Yea yea.. I know, Obummer signed an "Executive order" allowing VP's to declassify.. I call Bullshit!!.. An Executive order does absolutely ZERO as far as Law or Constitutionality!!.. In Order to change the constitution there has to be an amendment.. and 2/3 vote of both houses..
Obama, Much Like O'Biden.. did NOT have the right to declassify.. Period Full Stop!!
Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on Pr... (show quote)



Obama's EO 13256 section 3.1 The power to declassify (sec 3.1) is given to
(1)   the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority.

Since the VP can classify material, he can declassify that same material. He cannot declassify other material.

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Feb 2, 2023 11:48:52   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Justice101 wrote:
Obama's EO 13256 section 3.1 The power to declassify (sec 3.1) is given to
(1)   the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority.

Since the VP can classify material, he can declassify that same material. He cannot declassify other material.


"The person who orinally classified it". no where does it say a Senator can remove classified docs from the SCIF or declassify them. Bidens been stealing from others as far back as we can trace him, stealing other people's quotes, plagerizing,

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Feb 2, 2023 11:49:14   #
Justice101
 
permafrost wrote:
Lord you are pitiful.. you must live in some world of your own..

trump fought tooth and nail for months to hide the docs he stole.. first he said he did not have them, then he said he would not return them, then he said he had them but declassified them by thinking about it..

The raid was perfect.. by the letter . not an I not dotted not a T not crossed..

The criminal has belonged in prison for decades.. while he will probably die without ever having the orange jump suit. every effort needs to made to cleanse our soiled government and remove every vestige of the criminal who held a spot within the oval housing American legislation..

Beyond that criminal prosecution the gov also needs to clear up the handling of classified docs.. first of, the days schedules of the the VP/Pres daily lunches and all the rest does not seem to need classification.. also once the event/time line etc is past, declassify those daily docs.
Lord you are pitiful.. you must live in some world... (show quote)


The raid of Mar-a-Lago was a political hit job that occurred three months exactly before the Nov 8 midterms (to favor the dems where the FBI placed folders on the floor labled classified and photographed them, leaked out info to the leftist press), whereas the Biden regime along with the DOJ covered up Biden's document find at the Biden Penn Center on November 2 -so it wouldn't influence the midterms on Nov. 8 in the Republicans' favor. Somebody high up in the Dems had to have leaked the details eventually to CBS news for a reason. Then more classified documents were found in Biden's garage and home at Wilmington which were unsecure locations. We all have our theories.

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