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Dec 4, 2022 23:11:53   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Ricktloml wrote:
To your point , Congress critters frequently, (as in any time they think they can get away with it...which is quite often,) excuse themselves from any results/consequences of their legislation. A much needed change would be ANY law that Congress passes applies equally to members of Congress as well as the general public. If a law is good enough to impose on the American people...it's good enough for equal application for/to Congressmen/women


I absolutely agree. And that should apply to retirement and all fringe benefits. Another idea is that the legislatures ONLY allowed income is donations from their direct constituents. That would sure tell whether they were doing their job or not!!

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Dec 5, 2022 00:58:29   #
Justice101
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I absolutely agree. And that should apply to retirement and all fringe benefits. Another idea is that the legislatures ONLY allowed income is donations from their direct constituents. That would sure tell whether they were doing their job or not!!



If the legislatures' ONLY allowed income would be donations from their direct constituents in order to determine their job performance, then they would surely starve.

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.”-John Lydgate

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Dec 5, 2022 06:47:38   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Moeby wrote:
If you check you will discover that the percentage of convicts in the U.S. who are atheists is less than two percent. So where are all these godless son of a guns? Either they are inherently law abiding or they are awful smart not to get caught.



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Dec 5, 2022 22:46:53   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
I'd like to see politicians have their salary/benefits tied to a vote. Raises based on inflation, one percent below or one percent above. We vote which one they get. If they do good, a raise of 1% over inflation. If they do average, inflation raise. If they are shit, 1% below inflation. If they don't like what they are paid, they can always haul garbage.

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Dec 5, 2022 23:13:12   #
American Vet
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I'd like to see politicians have their salary/benefits tied to a vote. Raises based on inflation, one percent below or one percent above. We vote which one they get. If they do good, a raise of 1% over inflation. If they do average, inflation raise. If they are shit, 1% below inflation. If they don't like what they are paid, they can always haul garbage.


I understand your intent. However, the Congress critters that make money do not do it with their salary. That is a mere pittance compared to their other money making ‘activities’.

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Dec 5, 2022 23:26:20   #
Turk182
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I'd like to see politicians have their salary/benefits tied to a vote. Raises based on inflation, one percent below or one percent above. We vote which one they get. If they do good, a raise of 1% over inflation. If they do average, inflation raise. If they are shit, 1% below inflation. If they don't like what they are paid, they can always haul garbage.


If the SCOTUS hears the case on the certification of the 2016 and 2020 elections and finds that it was not done properly, it voids the election for other states. It also shows congress committed fraud and the ones that did will be removed and will not be allowed to hold any government jobs again. So we may not need but only 12 or so people to do the same job as the congress did, because these people will work.

There will be a lot of changes when and if the EBS goes off.

Semper Fi

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Dec 6, 2022 06:43:01   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
American Vet wrote:
I understand your intent. However, the Congress critters that make money do not do it with their salary. That is a mere pittance compared to their other money making ‘activities’.


Lobbying.

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Dec 6, 2022 08:13:20   #
American Vet
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Lobbying.


That - and cashing in on 'inside information' (think Pelosi) is another.

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Dec 6, 2022 09:36:37   #
Justice101
 
Turk182 wrote:
If the SCOTUS hears the case on the certification of the 2016 and 2020 elections and finds that it was not done properly, it voids the election for other states. It also shows congress committed fraud and the ones that did will be removed and will not be allowed to hold any government jobs again. So we may not need but only 12 or so people to do the same job as the congress did, because these people will work.

There will be a lot of changes when and if the EBS goes off.

Semper Fi
If the SCOTUS hears the case on the certification ... (show quote)


I believe that the case only involves the certification of the 2020 election. RALAND J. BRUNSON v. ALMA S. ADAMS et.al No. 22-380 PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI

https://www.ini-world-report.org/2022/12/03/brunson-case-heats-up-the-2020-decision/

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Dec 6, 2022 09:41:23   #
Big Bass
 
RandyBrian wrote:
It is the left's fault. The division in race, in political parties, the rise in riots, the open hatred and general animosity. Even the rise in violent crime, INCLUDING mass shootings.
Why?
Because in the last twenty years or so, the left in general, and the 'woke' part of the left specifically, have made intolerance and violence socially acceptable. And the Democrat party, specifically the leadership, has embraced doing so, encouraged it, and even called it heroic.
The stage was set in the 60's with the left wingers pushed God out of education. When the left said there is no God and no need to believe in God, because it is all fairy tales. When a troubled or unhappy individual sees no greater good, and no reward or punishment in an afterlife, and trusted people says it is stupid and ignorant to believe in an afterlife, that opens many options that a believer would never consider. When life appears worse than the peace of death, why not? Suicide becomes an acceptable alternative, as does murder. After all, once a person accepts that they want to die, it is only a tiny bit farther to decide to take others along.
But that is a different discussion. It relates here only because rejecting God was the start.

Up until Reagan was elected, the Democrats stayed within reason with their accusations of what the Republicans political goals were. But so many Democrats voted for Reagan, the leaders realized they were losing....they felt they had to change tactics. So beginning after Reagan left office, their political rhetoric became more and more extreme and filled with lies and exaggerations. Everything they said and did was geared to appeal to the low information and politically ignorant citizens that votes based on optics and sound bites. In 2000, with the help of an unqualified BUT charming and charismatic Barrack Obama, the new tactics started paying off.

As a result, for the last 22 years the left/woke/Democrats have encouraged and pushed intolerance for anything that did not agree with their narratives. Voicing opposition was not enough. Logic and reasoning was not enough. ANGER and OUTRAGE at ANY dissent was the order of the day. Don't like Trumps policies? Then harass and attack his officials and supporters! Attack kids with red hats. Interrupt meals. Say any lies you want. The end justifies the means. Don't like conservatives? Then violently protest them when they come on campus. It is not enough to decline to attend their speeches, we must STOP them from saying ANYthing to ANYbody! Don't like racism? Then let's redefine it so that ONLY Caucasians are racists, and it is not enough to be color blind....if POC are not given special privileges, and any white folks are not violently anti-racist, then they too are racists! If ANYthing is said, seen, or remembered that you don't like, then it is absolutely OFFENSIVE and WILL NOT BE TOLERATED! Some 60 year old wore black face in a costume 45 years ago? Cancel the racist! Some teen girl wears an oriental dress to prom? Cancel the tramp for cultural appropriation.
The examples are endless. And the media, for the most part, went along with it enthusiastically. Here was a chance to 'guide' the public into politically correct thinking.
This is the age, the century (so far), in which violent intolerance and extremism is encouraged and dignified and celebrated by some of the most powerful and influential politicians and celebrities and media in America.
Why is crime increasing? Much of it is because of soft on criminal Democrat policies, but it is also because the left has been telling the poor that they DESERVE to take what they want. Doing so is righteous and justice.
Why are riots, including race riots increasing? Because the left has been saying that ANY time a black person is hurt, then it is racially motivated, and outrage and violence are acceptable.
Why are mass murders increasing? Because the left has made it clear that actions as a result of outrage and anger is acceptable social behavior, even if it is an individual.
Why are our university campuses in disarray? Because the left has convinced them that screaming temper tantrums and violent protests are fine if you don't like what they are saying, or even if you just don't like them personally.

This post has no links because these are my thoughts and convictions based on 50 years of paying attention. American politics is similar to California forests. The unacceptable 'dead wood' has now been made acceptable by 22 years of leftist and Democrat words and policies, and is just laying there waiting for the spark-of-the-day to start a wildfire. The only way to correct it is to start clearing away the dead wood. That will take time and effort. We need to clear the forest of our culture of all the 'dead wood' attitude that is waiting for the strike of a match.
And, by the way, disagreeing with someone is NOT hatred. But intolerance of free speech IS.
The way to begin is to STOP condemning any one or any thing that we disagree with. Listen. Agree or disagree. But do it with out hatred or violence. Those things must be made socially and culturally unacceptable once again.
I look forward to comments by everyone.
It is the left's fault. The division in race, in ... (show quote)

Excellent stuff, Randy.

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Dec 6, 2022 11:27:48   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Big Bass wrote:
Excellent stuff, Randy.


Thank you, kind sir.
I was expecting a lot of blow back and various other complaints from our left wing friends, but so far only crickets.
I guess it must be NWR in their eyes? LOL.

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Dec 6, 2022 12:09:31   #
Big Bass
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Thank you, kind sir.
I was expecting a lot of blow back and various other complaints from our left wing friends, but so far only crickets.
I guess it must be NWR in their eyes? LOL.


Compliments given where compliments due, Randy. If the commies can’t understand the first couple of words, they don’t bother to respond.

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