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Nov 17, 2022 07:37:32 #
RandyBrian
Loc: Texas
working class stiff wrote:
Agreed....I don't watch television news either, yet have been following the stories. This is just more agit-prop. I don't know what she considers MSM, or why it's important that guns were not used in one instance, or that the perpetrator was black in the other, but you can be sure that Auntie E had a specific axe to grind. Pffft.
My friend, her point is simply that the media is treating these two tragedies very differently than usual. Simply that. In her opinion, it is because there is no political points to be made about white supremacy or racism or to promote gun control. I agree with her. She never implied that the stories were being ignored.....just not pushed in endless 24/7 coverage.
Nov 17, 2022 09:05:57 #
jim, Don't dis Progressives like that! Sure, the Progressives are VERY BAD, BUT NOT NEARLY AS BAD AS THE EXTREME LEFT MSM!
Nov 17, 2022 09:19:37 #
AuntiE wrote:
As many others feel free to create thread without ... (show quote)
We all know how that works! Cnn bust on the trump hate track again! That takes all their attention!!!
Nov 17, 2022 11:21:38 #
working class stiff
Loc: N. Carolina
RandyBrian wrote:
My friend, her point is simply that the media is treating these two tragedies very differently than usual. Simply that. In her opinion, it is because there is no political points to be made about white supremacy or racism or to promote gun control. I agree with her. She never implied that the stories were being ignored.....just not pushed in endless 24/7 coverage.
I think that's a matter of perception. We see what we want to see. "The media" is as used in cases like this is an outdated concept. I don't watch TV news, nor regularly read the NY Times, WaPo, Newsweek, Time, or any of the other media that are usually implicated by the right as being 'political'. I read articles in those print media, but also read articles in Fox, the Federalist, American Thinker, etc. From my perspective, those sources are just as much about making political hay as those usually branded as left wing.
It's my opinion, in keeping with the opening post that cites no source, that one of the irritants for the right is that in the marketplace the so called leftist media just won't disappear. The 'news', just like everything else, has become politicized. I don't KNOW whether that's a positive or negative development, but I do know that both sides do it. While the internet and related technology has been a positive development in some areas, I question whether it actually helps make more sense of the world as it's advocates had hoped.
Nov 17, 2022 11:41:15 #
AuntiE wrote:
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There’s no good reason for anyone to not include links. Its a simple courtesy. Even bad bob does it.
Nov 17, 2022 11:42:05 #
AuntiE wrote:
But, you are not national media. Hmmm…maybe you are. There are a lot of people here from all over. I designate you, national media. 
I second that vote because PR always points out the inconvenient truths the media just happens to over look
Nov 17, 2022 12:07:31 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
working class stiff wrote:
I think that's a matter of perception. We see wha... (show quote)
The news has become politicized. I would hope you know this. It doesn't bother you that the Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos, a huge contributor to the Democrat party? It doesn't bother you that Facebook is owned by Zuckerberg, who influenced the election with millions of dollars and selective censoring of conservative opinions? It doesn't bother you the former owner (CEO) of Twitter was a huge Democrat donor? It doesn't bother you that over 90% of all contributions from people in the media who contribute to political parties goes to Democrats? Does it bother you that some idiot kid, Sam Bankman, CEO of FTX was the second highest donor to the Democrat Party, and he is now the Bernie Madoff of the crypto world? Stole billions of dollars of investors money and contributed millions to democrats?
Everything I just listed is well known, provable facts. If we don't start holding people accountable, especially those in power for malfeasance, we will lose this country.
Nov 17, 2022 14:03:20 #
working class stiff wrote:
Agreed....I don't watch television news either, yet have been following the stories. This is just more agit-prop. I don't know what she considers MSM, or why it's important that guns were not used in one instance, or that the perpetrator was black in the other, but you can be sure that Auntie E had a specific axe to grind. Pffft.
Obviously, my ”specific axe to grind” floated right over your understanding.
Nov 17, 2022 14:07:21 #
RandyBrian
Loc: Texas
working class stiff wrote:
I think that's a matter of perception. We see wha... (show quote)
The media are people, too, and they are certainly entitled to express their opinions, be it on the right OR the left. But they are supposed to be objective. That does NOT mean that they do not have an opinion, but it DOES mean that they present all sides of an issue. It means that they do NOT lie, exaggerate, obfuscate, deflect, and ignore facts that do not support their personal beliefs! And THAT is what the MSM has become.
Fox, for example, does not claim to be objective. But they claim to accurately present all sides of an argument, and they seem to do so. CNN does NOT, and neither does the NYT or most other news organizations.
There is nothing wrong with being a left wing news outlet and being biased for the progressives. But they should not claim to be journalists. They should proclaim themselves to be what they are. That is what Hannity, Carlson, and others on the right do. They are honest about their stance. Left wing pundits tend to claim themselves as being non-biased and objective, and they are neither.
Nov 17, 2022 14:08:25 #
working class stiff wrote:
I think that's a matter of perception. We see wha... (show quote)
RIF=Reading Is Fundamental would be applicable.
I clearly stated why I did not ”cites no source”. 99.99% of the time I do cite a source; however, if you had paid a minuscule amount of time lately, you would find a multitude of threads without any source. One wonders if you would have an issue with those threads. Actually, truthfully, one cares not if you would have an issue.
Nov 17, 2022 14:10:43 #
Rose42 wrote:
There’s no good reason for anyone to not include links. Its a simple courtesy. Even bad bob does it.
It is either laziness or lack of technical skill. My technology skills or abysmal; however, even I have learned how to copy/paste a linked article.
Nov 17, 2022 16:33:30 #
Rose42 wrote:
There’s no good reason for anyone to not include links. Its a simple courtesy. Even bad bob does it.
Well, my excuse is simple, I don’t know How to include links, thank you very much!
Nov 17, 2022 16:52:42 #
Big dog wrote:
Well, my excuse is simple, I don’t know How to include links, thank you very much!
Nov 17, 2022 17:16:16 #
JFlorio wrote:
He knows the coverage and spin is different. Progressives can’t help but be jerks.
Nov 17, 2022 17:30:47 #
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