working class stiff wrote:
At this point I really don't see a difference between the distribution of wealth when comparing the outcome of communism and capitalism. I do agree that capitalism creates more wealth than communism, which is why I'm not a communist. However, if that wealth isn't distributed fairly, then what's the difference to the serfs in either system?
Like you, I started out with nothing and have built a comfortable life for my family and self through hard work so I'm not complaining nor envious. (I was also able to work my way through college without debt, but that is no longer possible unless one takes 8-10 yrs. to do so). But just because 'I got mine, jack' doesn't blind me to the other crabs still struggling to get out of the pot.
No, my fear is that the maldistribution of wealth in our country and it's continuance will lead to social unrest. My fear is that we are in an era that closely resembles the 1880s, and after, when the labor wars broke out. We have a huge chunk of our population that is 1 paycheck away from crisis, even if they have worked hard and followed the rules diligently. There is also a large chunk of our population that has given up because they don't see the rewards for following the rules and working diligently.
There is nothing wrong with 'fairness' as a concept and the working class know that what we have now has nothing to do with fairness. Consider that most banana republics and the communist system you don't want also have the same wealth distribution profile that we currently enjoy. To the majority of people, whether they work for tin horn dictators, the party bosses, or their capitalist owner makes very little difference. At some point they will rebel and whether the state that suppresses that rebellion is capitalist, communist, or some other dictatorship will look the same to them.
Our own political system, IMHO, is starting to closely resemble the imperial courts of the European aristocracy. That should give every American cause to pause..... there may come a time when the gated communities and mansions will resemble the deteriorating castles scattered throughout Europe and the rest of the world. The Democrats and Republicans look like the warring clans of old, chasing the money that is now 'speech'. They serve the interests of the wealthy in either case. I see evidence of barbarians gathering at the gates....I foresee, as the Chinese curse puts it, interesting times.
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What you say is logical, reasonable, and makes a lot of sense. Except for one thing.
All that you see and are postulating is based on the premise that America has a small ruling class and a massive borderline serf class with no power, and that is simply not true.
There are the rich and the uber-rich, that is true. There is also a 'poor' class comprised mostly of people with severe disadvantages such as no education or skills or some level of disabilities. And yet America has the 'richest' poor class in the world. Virtually every family has a roof, food, a large TV, internet, vehicles, and most every person over ten has a smart phone. There is more ample help available through government and charitable agencies. I KNOW, because my family is involved in both. There are exceptions, but they are mostly made up of the mentally ill and self inflicted personal issues, such as drug and alcohol abuse.
But both of these 'classes' are in the minority. The vast majority of Americans are like you and me, and live in the middle class. Sure, it would be nice to have more, but we have the necessities and quite a lot of luxuries. We live in nice homes with AC, usually with multiple vehicles, we get paid OT for anything over 40 hours a week, we have computers and smart phones and video games and access to ridiculous amounts of entertainment.
But the most important point is that EVERY single one of us has POWER! The power to vote, to ban together with others of like mind and demand changes and improvements and to use our massed power of the vote to FORCE those changes.....if we can convince enough others to join in our cause.
THAT POWER is what is being threatened by the attempted socializing of America's agencies, the Democratic push to minimize capitalism, transform into a permanent nanny government, and most especially the leftest dominated education system and main stream media, which firmly believes the end justifies the means. It doesn't. Not in a free Republic.
My friend, we have so much in common, but please PLEASE re-evaluate what you are seeing in America. I spent almost 30 years as a member of a union, part of the AFL-CIO, including being an official and an elected representative in one of Texas larger locals. Thirty years of seeing them spoon feeding nonsense "information" to our members. Nothing but lies and distortions, year after year and decade after decade, I saw it from the mid-70s until after I retired, and beyond. All to boost their political influence with the Democrats. Because they are the same as the politicians you despise and fear. They believe the end justifies the means, and do not see how it corrupts the mind and soul.
We are both seeing the same evidence, and drawing entirely different conclusions. Please take a mental step back and do some objective evaluation, as I did in 1994 when I confronted my local's President about the political lying coming from our Union's office and from Washington DC. He admitted it, with the rationalization that the ends (defeating Republicans and conservatives) really DID justify the means, no matter how dishonest and despicable.
He had BECOME exactly what he routinely accused his political enemies of being. Something I have come to see as very common in the leftwing leadership.