Mikeyavelli

Trump wants to release the Crossfire Hurricane docs to prove the sedition, corruption, and treason within the bureaus.

Mikeyavelli

Exactly.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

When? And the empty folders, who has that intel?

Rose42

Yes your posts do reek of hate with your constant snide remarks. Its amusing that some of you who criticize trump behave worse than he does. Ironic.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

FOA

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

I do not hate Trump. He is not worth it.

Behave worse? You support a probable traitor. What could be worse than that?

What is your justification for Donny taking state secrets?

popscott

It's been decided, thanks to Bill's sock drawer... in court...

The president and vice president are the ultimate declassifying authority of the U.S. government and through executive orders most recently issued in 2003 by George W. Bush and Barack Obama in 2009 that specifically exempt the president and vice president from having to follow the stringent declassification procedures every other federal agency and official must follow.

This has already been decided.. Clinton's sock drawer revealed more than Melania's underwear drawer.

Judge Amy Jackson ruled in 2012 that a president's discretion to declare records "personal" is far-reaching and mostly unchallengeable.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-co.../JW-v-NARA-Clinton-Tapes-transcript-01834.pdf

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

It isn't espionage to take possession of classified materials,
store them in sealed boxes or lock them in a safe for safe keeping.

Those boxes were sealed when Trump brought them to Mar-a-Lago
and they were sealed when the FBI seized them.

The President of the United States is the only government officer with the security clearance
to classify and/or declassify anything he chooses, be it "Confidential" or "Beyond Top Secret".


Lest we forget,

There’s no sainthood for Obama, National Archives in Trump FBI raid uproar

Accusations are flying fast and furious regarding last week’s FBI raid at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home. In my Wednesday piece for The Post, I noted that 30 million pages of Obama administration records had been trucked to Chicago. The Obama Foundation, working with the National Archives, promised to digitize and put them online. Almost six years after the records arrived at a Chicago-area warehouse, that hasn’t happened.

Trump revved up the controversy Friday when he asserted that President Barack Obama “kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!”

Trump has not revealed any source for his allegations that many of the papers were classified and that they had “lots” of “nuclear” material. The Obama Foundation and the National Archives have denied there are any classified documents in those records.

The media have largely sainted the National Archives in this ruckus. The agency issued a statement Friday: “As required by the (Presidential Records Act), former President Obama has no control over where and how the archives stores the Presidential records of his Administration.”

But the National Archives blocks access to official records at the behest of every former president and his designated officials.

Almost all the media coverage of this controversy has ignored or downplayed the dismal failure of the Presidential Records Act to reveal presidents’ records. A Washington Post analysis of the dispute on the 30 million pages conceded, “As with many issues of government transparency and document-sharing, it’s true that this is not great! You often have to wait years for requested documents, and this appears to be no exception.”

But journalists should be outraged by this perpetual stonewalling. Barack and Michelle Obama collected a $65 million advance for their memoirs, but Americans are still effectively prohibited from seeing his official records.

The Presidential Records Act requires people seeking information to file a Freedom of Information Act request. As Politico reported in March, “At many presidential libraries, the queues for processing FOIAs stretch for years,” and requests “involving classified information can take more than a decade.”

Obama boasted he had “the most transparent administration in history.” In reality, the Obama administration was as devious as the Nixon administration when it came to government secrecy.

In 2011, Obama’s Justice Department formally proposed to permit federal agencies to falsely claim that FOIA-requested documents did not exist. The American Civil Liberties Union complained that the plan perverted “a law designed to provide public access to government information to be twisted to permit federal law enforcement agencies to actively lie to the American people.”

Obama’s lawyers claimed a new veto power that turned FOIA into a travesty. White House counsel Gregory Craig quietly notified all federal agencies in 2009 that “all documents and records that implicate the White House in any way are said to have ‘White House equities’ and must receive an extra layer of review, not by agency FOIA experts, but by the White House itself,” a congressional report noted. Politico observed in 2016 that in some cases, White House FOIA “referrals have led to years of delay.”

The Obama Foundation and the National Archives talk about digitizing those 30 million pages as if it were an almost unfathomable labor of Hercules. It took me less than five minutes searching online to find a Kodak scanner that can handle 150,000 pages a day. Buy 10 of those scanners, and the 30 million pages could easily be digitized within a month. The scanners cost $20,000 each, but the Obama Foundation has $560 million in assets and the top three employees receive more than $500,000 a year. It could easily find the money for the scanners if disclosure were the goal.

The Obama Foundation estimates that 95% of Obama administration records were “born digital.” They could be easily placed online — if disclosure were the goal. Will the National Archives insist on “reviewing” each page for spelling errors before it goes live on the internet or what?

Obama’s machinations don’t make Trump trustworthy. The Justice Department has not yet revealed precisely what documents it seized at Mar-a-Lago and what legal charges may be filed. There are plenty of questions about the motivation of the FBI raid, the possible role of an FBI confidential informant and the alleged seizure of materials protected by attorney-client privilege

At this point, National Archives bureaucrats seem to have adapted the early motto of National Review, standing “athwart history, yelling Stop.” But as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wisely warned in 2012, “Lack of transparency eats away like a cancer at the trust people should have in their government.”

microphor Loc: Home is TN

FOA

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Obama did it all Legally.
And has no documents at home.

rjoeholl

Well, he's had seven years so far. Soooo..........

Smedley_buzkill

No one counted the silverware because Hillary was nowhere in sight. The only reason she ran for president is so she could have another crack at it.
I have called it quits. Liberals are the poster children for invincible ignorance. You show them the text of black letter US law, and Supreme Court decisions and they still claim they are right and the facts are wrong. I don't know why I bothered to post both the court decisions and the actual laws. Liberals either ignore them or are too stupid to comprehend them. I'd have a better chance trying to teach trigonometry to a monkey. I'm not going to bother to post the Court decisions, and Executive Orders again, since you people were too dense to read and comprehend them the first time. (I know, too many big words, and no one there to explain them to you, since the dictionary definition was above your pay grade also.) I will try to give another brief explanation as simply as possible.
The SCOTUS has ruled that the President has almost unlimited authority to decide what is and is not classified, and the President also has almost unlimited authority to decide what is public and what is private. This is the same DOJ that lied repeatedly to Judges in order to obtain FISA warrants on Trump, even some of the same agents. Instead of being fired, charged and tried, they are given another chance to go on a witch hunt. The first affidavits for warrants were mendacious. They learned their lesson and redacted most of this one before they let anyone see it.
It doesn't matter though because Trump will be cleared by a court decision and Executive Orders aimed at protecting Bill Clinton. How' that for irony? Oh, I'll bet you don't know what "irony" means.

Mikeyavelli

Mikeyavelli

👍👍
What the left wants you to believe is that Trump took the documents to sell to the highest bidder.
Harumph says the left, those are Our Documents to sell!

moldyoldy

He is the swamp.