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Jul 20, 2022 23:06:33   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Republicans have denied disabled veterans who were injured and unable to complete their 20 year requirement for their pension.
This is wrong on so many levels.
These veterans have chosen the military as their career , but when they became injured they were shut out cold.
Republicans , you know ! They’re all for the military .
Vote Republican , a great choice if you’re not sick or hurt or poor.

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Jul 20, 2022 23:10:48   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Republicans have denied disabled veterans who were injured and unable to complete their 20 year requirement for their pension.
This is wrong on so many levels.
These veterans have chosen the military as their career , but when they became injured they were shut out cold.
Republicans , you know ! They’re all for the military .
Vote Republican , a great choice if you’re not sick or hurt or poor.


Where is your proof???

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Jul 20, 2022 23:19:20   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
Where is your proof???


I'm a veteran, and the VA has been under a full on assault since trump took office, he did damage that hasn't begun to be fixed. Half my appointments are private at several times the cost of what it cost for VA doctors and facilities to do the same job.

If republicans get back the house and senate the VA, social security, and postal services will be privatized within a few years, the stage has been set.

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Jul 20, 2022 23:22:37   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
I'm a veteran, and the VA has been under a full on assault since trump took office, he did damage that hasn't begun to be fixed. Half my appointments are private at several times the cost of what it cost for VA doctors and facilities to do the same job.

If republicans get back the house and senate the VA, social security, and postal services will be privatized within a few years, the stage has been set.


https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2020/08/26/president-trump-has-been-a-champion-for-americas-veteran-community/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/05/05/trump-achieves-major-victories-veterans-opposing-view/5173324002/

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/08/10/here-are-2-veteran-supporting-bills-president-trump-just-signed-law.html

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/veterans/

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Jul 20, 2022 23:26:25   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
woodguru wrote:
I'm a veteran, and the VA has been under a full on assault since trump took office, he did damage that hasn't begun to be fixed. Half my appointments are private at several times the cost of what it cost for VA doctors and facilities to do the same job.

If republicans get back the house and senate the VA, social security, and postal services will be privatized within a few years, the stage has been set.


***I'm a veteran, and the VA has been under a full on assault since trump took office, he did damage that hasn't begun to be fixed. Half my appointments are private at several times the cost of what it cost for VA doctors and facilities to do the same job.

>>>I'm a veteran, and the VA has been great. Some of my appointments are private at several times the cost of what it cost for VA doctors and absolutely great hospitals. The VA covered every dime.

***If republicans get back the house and senate the VA, social security, and postal services will be privatized within a few years, the stage has been set.

>>>If the stage is set, it was set my democrats to kill all three with their bull shit. The Republicans are a safer bet to do what is right by all three of those.

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Jul 21, 2022 01:03:33   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***I'm a veteran, and the VA has been under a full on assault since trump took office, he did damage that hasn't begun to be fixed. Half my appointments are private at several times the cost of what it cost for VA doctors and facilities to do the same job.

>>>I'm a veteran, and the VA has been great. Some of my appointments are private at several times the cost of what it cost for VA doctors and absolutely great hospitals. The VA covered every dime.

***If republicans get back the house and senate the VA, social security, and postal services will be privatized within a few years, the stage has been set.

>>>If the stage is set, it was set my democrats to kill all three with their bull shit. The Republicans are a safer bet to do what is right by all three of those.
***I'm a veteran, and the VA has been under a full... (show quote)


That is for sure!

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Jul 21, 2022 01:08:40   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Republicans have denied disabled veterans who were injured and unable to complete their 20 year requirement for their pension.
This is wrong on so many levels.
These veterans have chosen the military as their career , but when they became injured they were shut out cold.
Republicans , you know ! They’re all for the military .
Vote Republican , a great choice if you’re not sick or hurt or poor.


You are ignorant. My son is a vet, 5 deployments, middle east, Frontline, Marines. Until Trump came into office, his nearest vet service was 2 1/2 hrs away. Now he sees a doctor in the town he lives in, Trump made that happen along with his other benefits. You don't know wtf you're talking about. Just because some far left politician says something doesn't make it true.

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Jul 21, 2022 01:16:01   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
woodguru wrote:
I'm a veteran, and the VA has been under a full on assault since trump took office, he did damage that hasn't begun to be fixed. Half my appointments are private at several times the cost of what it cost for VA doctors and facilities to do the same job.

If republicans get back the house and senate the VA, social security, and postal services will be privatized within a few years, the stage has been set.


I don't believe a word you say. My son receives excellent care and so does my client who was in Army. Both have private doctors, the same doc every time. not like the old vet care where you saw a different doctor everytime you went and was shuffle from floor to floor all f..ing day. both get their medications and care without a problem. Both are retired, my son disabled after last contact tour.

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Jul 21, 2022 01:42:07   #
woodguru
 
LogicallyRight wrote:

1..I'm a veteran, and the VA has been great. Some of my appointments are private at several times the cost of what it cost for VA doctors and absolutely great hospitals. The VA covered every dime.

***If republicans get back the house and senate the VA, social security, and postal services will be privatized within a few years, the stage has been set.

2...If the stage is set, it was set my democrats to kill all three with their bull shit. The Republicans are a safer bet to do what is right by all three of those.
br 1..I'm a veteran, and the VA has been great. S... (show quote)


1...this is what's wrong with people's ignorance and apathy about who pays, as long as you don't have to pay you don't give a damn about whether the VA has to pay several times more because a president and his incompetent fools are intentionally undermining and gutting the VA so it can be privatized...who started the process of diverting VA funds to private healthcare.

2...The stage for privatization has been pushed for two decades for the postal service, republicans have done everything possible to make them as inefficient as possible so that it made their kind of sense to privatize it.
...When trump took office social security has undergone funding cuts and tens of thousands of staff cuts that have hampered the job they can do, again to pave the way toward making the argument for privatization.
...The VA is well into a program of cutting doctors and staff and shifting care to private healthcare entities. Just the money they pay to schedule appointments by contract services is ludicrous.

Anyone who can say the republicans, who are the ones gunning for privatization in the first place are the safe bet is what is wrong with the stupidity and ignorance of the real americans that are cluelessly misled.

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Jul 21, 2022 01:48:39   #
woodguru
 
microphor wrote:
I don't believe a word you say. My son receives excellent care and so does my client who was in Army. Both have private doctors, the same doc every time. not like the old vet care where you saw a different doctor everytime you went and was shuffle from floor to floor all f..ing day. both get their medications and care without a problem. Both are retired, my son disabled after last contact tour.


And here you are saying it, private doctors that cost substantially more than the old system would have.

I had excellent care up until about five years ago when the VA started having funding issues under republican controlled Obama administration, then trump put his cluelessly under qualified Mar A Lago donors in charge, the care there sucks, it is taking forever to get issues addressed and taken care of, my last doctor visit she wanted to address one issue at a time out of six things.

Facts are not about who you believe, it is about taking it upon yourself to follow the things that are going on at the VA, it's a huge organization and it can't be run by the idiots trump put in charge without decimating the job they do.

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Jul 21, 2022 02:25:35   #
Jlw Loc: Wisconsin
 
microphor wrote:
You are ignorant. My son is a vet, 5 deployments, middle east, Frontline, Marines. Until Trump came into office, his nearest vet service was 2 1/2 hrs away. Now he sees a doctor in the town he lives in, Trump made that happen along with his other benefits. You don't know wtf you're talking about. Just because some far left politician says something doesn't make it true.


With everything else that he says I really doubt that he is a veteran. He has done everything possible in this world. I'm surprised that he doesn't claim to have been president Way back

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Jul 21, 2022 02:39:00   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
And here you are saying it, private doctors that cost substantially more than the old system would have.

I had excellent care up until about five years ago when the VA started having funding issues under republican controlled Obama administration, then trump put his cluelessly under qualified Mar A Lago donors in charge, the care there sucks, it is taking forever to get issues addressed and taken care of, my last doctor visit she wanted to address one issue at a time out of six things.

Facts are not about who you believe, it is about taking it upon yourself to follow the things that are going on at the VA, it's a huge organization and it can't be run by the idiots trump put in charge without decimating the job they do.
And here you are saying it, private doctors that c... (show quote)


I simply no longer believe anything you say, Woody. You have utterly destroyed all your credibility over the last several years by repeating DNC talking points continuously, and exaggerating anything remotely right wing to be deliberate attacks against American citizens. Now it is veterans. I am not a veteran, but I AM an observer of politics.
The VA has been mismanaged ever since the 60s, if not earlier. To America's shame. But to try and blame it all on Republicans is an out and out lie. It is like the debt. Neither party has taken fixing the situation seriously.
Trump moved things in the right direction, but not nearly far enough. The Democrats were blocking EVERYthing he attempted that they possibly could, no matter HOW good for the country. As for the future, Biden and the Democrats will do what they have always done.....promise everything and deliver nothing.
As for privatization, the ONLY reason some Republicans keep looking at privatization is because private companies provide BETTER service, BETTER products, at LESS cost than government agencies. Orders of magnitude more efficient. Look at the postal service. What other industry could bring in billions of dollars a year and still be bankrupt for decades, and the postal service has a virtual MONOPOLY, and all they have to do is move envelopes and small packages from one point to another. That's it. It is a perfect example of what is wrong with bureaucrat run agencies, and any private agency could make a fortune in profits while charging a dime for a stamp.
So go peddle your lies somewhere else, please. More and more I find myself just skipping your threads, just like I do with AF1, and for exactly the same reasons. Every once in a while a title will catch my eye, and I give in to curiosity. Usually I regret it. Nothing but lies and exaggerations in a vain attempt to justify your bitterness and hatred.

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Jul 21, 2022 03:09:24   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Republicans have denied disabled veterans who were injured and unable to complete their 20 year requirement for their pension.
This is wrong on so many levels.
These veterans have chosen the military as their career , but when they became injured they were shut out cold.
Republicans , you know ! They’re all for the military .
Vote Republican , a great choice if you’re not sick or hurt or poor.
From the mid 20th century to today, the only democrat presidents that had any respect, even love, of our armed forces were JFK and FDR.

The peanut farmer may have had some respect for our military, but taking a hand in deposing the Shah of Iran which opened the door for the Islamic Regime to take over, and then his failed attempt to rescue the hostages in Tehran leaves one with some serious doubts.

LBJ didn't give a flying fk about our guys in Vietnam, to him the war was a nuisance,
just an obstacle in the way of implementing his Great Society.
He and his micromanagers, McNamara and Westmoreland, sold our troops in Nam down the Mekong river.

WJC is another POTUS whose appreciation of our armed forces wouldn't fit on the point of a needle.
The USAF colonel who carried Clinton's nuclear football wrote a book about his experiences titled
Dereliction of Duty. Along with documenting Bill Clinton's contempt and disregard for our military, he gave a striking account of 1st lady Hillary's treatment of military officers in the Pentagon and on the WH staff. Even though she was not an elected officer in the government, she demanded that military officers on the WH staff be prohibited from wearing their uniforms while on duty. And according to both the WH Secret Service agents and military staff, she threw tantrums, screamed at them and called them every filthy name in the book.

There is really no need to document B. Hussein Obama's hatred of our military
and the same goes for that racist bitch he married.

Then there is CreepyfreakingJoeBiden who took a nap at Dover AFB while the caskets of fallen troops arrived,
and of course his utter incompetence in handling the withdrawal from A-stan. Over night, Creepy Joe handed our sworn enemies $2 billion worth of state-of-the-art war fighting machines and equipment.

And, you're gonna sit there on your sorry ass and try to further demonize republicans and do it without providing a shred of evidence?

SMF!

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Jul 21, 2022 09:02:52   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
woodguru wrote:
And here you are saying it, private doctors that cost substantially more than the old system would have.

I had excellent care up until about five years ago when the VA started having funding issues under republican controlled Obama administration, then trump put his cluelessly under qualified Mar A Lago donors in charge, the care there sucks, it is taking forever to get issues addressed and taken care of, my last doctor visit she wanted to address one issue at a time out of six things.

Facts are not about who you believe, it is about taking it upon yourself to follow the things that are going on at the VA, it's a huge organization and it can't be run by the idiots trump put in charge without decimating the job they do.
And here you are saying it, private doctors that c... (show quote)


What part of "the old system" don't you get didn't take good care of our vets? F..K the cost isn't everything. These guys risk life and limb for us and weren't getting good medical care. Know for a fact, spent days at Veterans hospitals waiting with family members and friends who couldn't get quality care. Shuffled around Vets Hospital like sheep, often in so much pain it made me want to cry. I don't hear you screaming about the cost of medicare we are paying for those so called "Representatives" in DC. Veteran Care is one of the most important services Americans can provide for it's people "because" these (Veterans) are people who have already "EARNED" it! Get it?

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Jul 21, 2022 13:43:55   #
MidnightRider
 
The VA does just fine for me. I'm what they call a 'wounded warrior.' No lost limbs, just massive neurological damage from an IED in Afghanistan during my third deployment. Tenth year.

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