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Jun 13, 2022 12:57:36   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Shandel wrote:
Ha ha you are mad! And you can’t do a thing about Biden just like no one could do anything about Trump. You are just a number like me. I’ve been around long enough to know in this country shit happens and then it changes and more shit happens. I also know that Capitalism is very intertwined with Socialism and Govt handouts! The Republicans steal it from the taxpayers and give it to the Rich and the Democrats steal it from the taxpayers and say they are giving it to the less fortunate but rarely do. I don’t trust either party or president. Corruption has always been a cancer in most administrations and is especially worse now since SCOTUS Upheld Citizens United! The Masters always make the rules for the wisemen and the fools! This time will pass just as always. Supply and demand will still be the driving economic force, liberals and conservatives will continue to try and push their agendas and you and me will be pushing daisies!
Ha ha you are mad! And you can’t do a thing about ... (show quote)


Another lie. Steal it from the taxpayers and give to the rich. Absolutely a lie and a stupid comment. The top 10% of earners pay around 71% of all federal taxes. Which, by the way pays for the programs the poor benefit from. In 2019, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $612 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $461 billion in income taxes. You hate Citizen's United (as I do) but I never hear you guys mention the billions donated by the Teachers Unions, Public employee unions, and the Trial lawyer's Union, to name a few. Kinda hypocritical. You have no idea what's coming if this administrations foreign and domestic policies move forward.

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Jun 13, 2022 14:02:28   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
proud republican wrote:
https://nypost.com/2022/06/10/biden-ends-covid-test-requirement-to-enter-us/


Is anything he does a good idea! Never made illegals take tests or shots

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Jun 13, 2022 14:07:36   #
MidnightRider
 
JFlorio wrote:
More lies. You have absolutely no integrity. Do you let your kids lie? I watch Fox. Never once did I hear a commentator on Fox say do not get vaccinated. The overwhelming advice was talk to your doctor and make the best decision between you and your doctor. No one ever said Covid was a hoax either, liar. Many said the response was. that's debatable.


Having had it, no it's not a hoax. Blowing it far far out of proportion as those people have is the hoax. You do remember the psyop? No, Fox has been pretty straight up with this. Unlike the folks who brought you "Semi Full Auto mode."

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Jun 13, 2022 14:14:48   #
MidnightRider
 
Shandel wrote:
You and I don’t know if the Covid response worked or not?
They couldn’t indict or the wouldn’t indict? I can say Mueller and Barr are Republicans and not Trump haters.
Biden asked the country to distance, mask and get vaxxed! 35 % refused so Covid kept spreading and mutating it’s America choices are choices! Trump should have received credit for getting the vax rolling but he failed in other areas to his response. This along with a poorly run campaign doomed his re- election IMO. If you really research the 2016 and 2020 elections you will see where he lost out on roughly 6 million votes many in the swing states. Poor campaign strategy. By the way I have had plenty of college courses how about you? we are not really debating but just expressing our own beliefs and opinions.
You and I don’t know if the Covid response worked ... (show quote)


Mueller and Barr Republicans? Mueller, I think he's close to as lost as Joey B. Barr taking $4 million from China to double cross Trump, no he gave up his Republican status. He's as Republican as Mitt Romney.

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Jun 13, 2022 14:15:53   #
MidnightRider
 
Birdmam wrote:
It was a hoax for people with a brain


Yep, just the flu.

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Jun 13, 2022 15:53:24   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
JFlorio wrote:
Another lie. Steal it from the taxpayers and give to the rich. Absolutely a lie and a stupid comment. The top 10% of earners pay around 71% of all federal taxes. Which, by the way pays for the programs the poor benefit from. In 2019, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $612 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $461 billion in income taxes. You hate Citizen's United (as I do) but I never hear you guys mention the billions donated by the Teachers Unions, Public employee unions, and the Trial lawyer's Union, to name a few. Kinda hypocritical. You have no idea what's coming if this administrations foreign and domestic policies move forward.
Another lie. Steal it from the taxpayers and give ... (show quote)


Plus millions sent to planned parenthood .

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Jun 13, 2022 17:31:03   #
Shandel
 
JFlorio wrote:
Another lie. Steal it from the taxpayers and give to the rich. Absolutely a lie and a stupid comment. The top 10% of earners pay around 71% of all federal taxes. Which, by the way pays for the programs the poor benefit from. In 2019, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $612 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $461 billion in income taxes. You hate Citizen's United (as I do) but I never hear you guys mention the billions donated by the Teachers Unions, Public employee unions, and the Trial lawyer's Union, to name a few. Kinda hypocritical. You have no idea what's coming if this administrations foreign and domestic policies move forward.
Another lie. Steal it from the taxpayers and give ... (show quote)


Why do you call people liars? Just because you don’t agree with what is said from their perspective. Of course the top 10% are going to pay most of the taxes! They have most of the money!! Don’t give me any nonsense. The richest 1% controls over 50% of the stocks and mutual funds. Bottom 90% control about 11%. In 2017 the corporate tax rate went from 35% to 21% this doesn’t reflect the combined corporate rate which includes state and federal taxes reduced by the fed deduction for state taxes paid! As you know there are huge loopholes in the US Tax code which has helped 55 of the largest corporations to pay 0 taxes!
Accelerated depreciation, off shoring profits, stock options and maximizing Corp tax credits! All designed to escape paying more taxes. The richest Americans control the game by exploiting tax loopholes, shell corps, trusts and other shields to wealth. The 5 wealthiest families saw an increase of 2,484% in wealth since 1985. Our tax dollars have been used to help the wealthy through subsidies for years so Capitalism has benefited from social programs and vice versa. So reality is the tax structure is tilted to the wealthy as the wealth gap widens. I am not anti money making and I believe in a capitalistic system with purpose. I’m not going to feel bad if the wealthy or top 10 % have to pay more. I’m not sure the unions put $billions into lobbying but they too should be restricted. I believe Mega churches and the NRA should ante up too! My problem with the inequality is it is drag on economic growth and is continuing to foster political dysfunction and leads to the rise of so called populist leaders! The wealthy as we know can exert power and control and this outside influence will continue to erode trust in democratic societies, spreading Authoritarianism. We must offset this by making sure that economic mobility remains a society goal so workers can move up the economic ladder. J m o

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Jun 13, 2022 17:50:43   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
There is not now or ever a covid-19 virus but there are a lot of patent (NOT NATURAL) chemicals that create infections. mRNA is the key that should tell anyone they are trying to kill you or change your DNA.
It is a hoax, there is no epidemic just death and misery caused by a so called VACCINE that is a POISON,a flix of a switch with 5 G can drop you in your tracks.

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Jun 13, 2022 18:10:59   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Shandel wrote:
Why do you call people liars? Just because you don’t agree with what is said from their perspective. Of course the top 10% are going to pay most of the taxes! They have most of the money!! Don’t give me any nonsense. The richest 1% controls over 50% of the stocks and mutual funds. Bottom 90% control about 11%. In 2017 the corporate tax rate went from 35% to 21% this doesn’t reflect the combined corporate rate which includes state and federal taxes reduced by the fed deduction for state taxes paid! As you know there are huge loopholes in the US Tax code which has helped 55 of the largest corporations to pay 0 taxes!
Accelerated depreciation, off shoring profits, stock options and maximizing Corp tax credits! All designed to escape paying more taxes. The richest Americans control the game by exploiting tax loopholes, shell corps, trusts and other shields to wealth. The 5 wealthiest families saw an increase of 2,484% in wealth since 1985. Our tax dollars have been used to help the wealthy through subsidies for years so Capitalism has benefited from social programs and vice versa. So reality is the tax structure is tilted to the wealthy as the wealth gap widens. I am not anti money making and I believe in a capitalistic system with purpose. I’m not going to feel bad if the wealthy or top 10 % have to pay more. I’m not sure the unions put $billions into lobbying but they too should be restricted. I believe Mega churches and the NRA should ante up too! My problem with the inequality is it is drag on economic growth and is continuing to foster political dysfunction and leads to the rise of so called populist leaders! The wealthy as we know can exert power and control and this outside influence will continue to erode trust in democratic societies, spreading Authoritarianism. We must offset this by making sure that economic mobility remains a society goal so workers can move up the economic ladder. J m o
Why do you call people liars? Just because you don... (show quote)


I call people liars when I believe they're lying, because most can't be this clueless. Do you have any idea who pays when corporate taxes are raised? The first 70% is taken from present or future wage earners. The rest is recouped by cuts in staff and services. I am not for loopholes for anyone. There should be no subsidies. That includes electric, oil, wind , or solar. There is no way presently to make the uber wealthy pay their "fair share." Whatever that is. People were moving up the economic ladder before Covid. That's the truth. Real wages, unlike now, were up. You're not sure the unions put billions into lobbying? Really? If you don't know this you shouldn't debate the subject. The wealthy have always been able to influence the politics. Do you really believe a tax increase on anything will help anyone? I don't. they will just spend and waste more.

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Jun 13, 2022 20:19:02   #
Shandel
 
Owl32 wrote:
There is not now or ever a covid-19 virus but there are a lot of patent (NOT NATURAL) chemicals that create infections. mRNA is the key that should tell anyone they are trying to kill you or change your DNA.
It is a hoax, there is no epidemic just death and misery caused by a so called VACCINE that is a POISON,a flix of a switch with 5 G can drop you in your tracks.


Oh ok I believe you! Hopefully the 5g switch won’t drop me until I see John F Kennedy JR as Vice President with Donald Trump in 2024!

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Jun 13, 2022 20:38:48   #
BIRDMAN
 
JFlorio wrote:
I call people liars when I believe they're lying, because most can't be this clueless. Do you have any idea who pays when corporate taxes are raised? The first 70% is taken from present or future wage earners. The rest is recouped by cuts in staff and services. I am not for loopholes for anyone. There should be no subsidies. That includes electric, oil, wind , or solar. There is no way presently to make the uber wealthy pay their "fair share." Whatever that is. People were moving up the economic ladder before Covid. That's the truth. Real wages, unlike now, were up. You're not sure the unions put billions into lobbying? Really? If you don't know this you shouldn't debate the subject. The wealthy have always been able to influence the politics. Do you really believe a tax increase on anything will help anyone? I don't. they will just spend and waste more.
I call people liars when I believe they're lying, ... (show quote)


I think They said if they took 10% of every billionaire in the United States it would run the country less than a week

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Jun 13, 2022 20:41:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Birdmam wrote:
I think They said if they took 10% of every billionaire in the United States it would run the country less than a week


It’s not like I’m on the 1% side. It is, what it is. You never make yourself wealthier by making someone else poorer, unless you’re all ready wealthy.

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Jun 13, 2022 20:48:17   #
Shandel
 
[quote=JFlorio]I call people liars when I believe they're lying, because most can't be this clueless. Do you have any idea who pays when corporate taxes are raised? The first 70% is taken from present or future wage earners. The rest is recouped by cuts in staff and services. I am not for loopholes for anyone. There should be no subsidies. That includes electric, oil, wind , or solar. There is no way presently to make the uber wealthy pay their "fair share." Whatever that is. People were moving up the economic ladder before Covid. That's the truth. Real wages, unlike now, were up. You're not sure the unions put billions into lobbying? Really? If you don't know this you shouldn't debate the subject. The wealthy have always been able to influence the politics. Do you really believe a tax increase on anything will help anyone? I don't. they will just spend and waste more.[/quote

Well if corporations would not pass any loss in profits onto the wage earners and consumers…. When is enough $$ enough??
I said I don’t think the unions spend billions! I didn’t say they don’t spend money on elections! My sister was a teacher and a union member she worked under a contract which was collectively bargained without it she would have been paid shit wages so in some instances and occupations unions are necessary. So Covid happened and now they are no longer moving up the ladder? Like I said shit happens and things change it’s why you have light bulbs instead of oil lamps! It’s never gonna be like it was in 2018 so suck it up and move on. Real wages for millions were $7.50 to $9.00 hr.!? Higher now but inflation is eating up the increases for now along with oil prices So I never mentioned a tax increase but if you reduce the taxes you are reducing revenue too so something has to go! I dont mind paying my fair share if only the money would be spent where it is truly needed which rarely happens. So if there is no way to make the Uber wealthy pay their fair share then why are we discussing this because that is where it begins and ends. Trump, Biden , Bush, Clinton, Reagan Obama it doesn’t matter because they can’t control the real power brokers and if they get close they are gone. I knew all along George Carlin was right.

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Jun 13, 2022 21:10:11   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Just so you know, Trump and Reagan both reduced taxes. More revenue was generated for the federal govt. than ever before. congress just spent more.


[quote=Shandel][quote=JFlorio]I call people liars when I believe they're lying, because most can't be this clueless. Do you have any idea who pays when corporate taxes are raised? The first 70% is taken from present or future wage earners. The rest is recouped by cuts in staff and services. I am not for loopholes for anyone. There should be no subsidies. That includes electric, oil, wind , or solar. There is no way presently to make the uber wealthy pay their "fair share." Whatever that is. People were moving up the economic ladder before Covid. That's the truth. Real wages, unlike now, were up. You're not sure the unions put billions into lobbying? Really? If you don't know this you shouldn't debate the subject. The wealthy have always been able to influence the politics. Do you really believe a tax increase on anything will help anyone? I don't. they will just spend and waste more.[/quote

Well if corporations would not pass any loss in profits onto the wage earners and consumers…. When is enough $$ enough??
I said I don’t think the unions spend billions! I didn’t say they don’t spend money on elections! My sister was a teacher and a union member she worked under a contract which was collectively bargained without it she would have been paid shit wages so in some instances and occupations unions are necessary. So Covid happened and now they are no longer moving up the ladder? Like I said shit happens and things change it’s why you have light bulbs instead of oil lamps! It’s never gonna be like it was in 2018 so suck it up and move on. Real wages for millions were $7.50 to $9.00 hr.!? Higher now but inflation is eating up the increases for now along with oil prices So I never mentioned a tax increase but if you reduce the taxes you are reducing revenue too so something has to go! I dont mind paying my fair share if only the money would be spent where it is truly needed which rarely happens. So if there is no way to make the Uber wealthy pay their fair share then why are we discussing this because that is where it begins and ends. Trump, Biden , Bush, Clinton, Reagan Obama it doesn’t matter because they can’t control the real power brokers and if they get close they are gone. I knew all along George Carlin was right.[/quote]

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Jun 13, 2022 21:11:42   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
JFlorio wrote:
Just so you know, Trump and Reagan both reduced taxes. More revenue was generated for the federal govt. than ever before. congress just spent more.


First, one must define fair share. I don’t care how much someone makes. I just don’t believe they should make it because of political favors.

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