woodguru

I am a gun enthusiast, I have competed in more types of competitive disciplines than I can list right off hand. Most took expensive high quality custom firearms to give yourself a competitive edge... .45's that are custom tuned for trigger pull and feed reliability, speed event revolvers that have incredible trigger pulls, AR15 style rifles that will shoot nice groups at 600yds.

...I support background checks
...I support wait periods for background checks to be completed
...I support mental health reporting
...I support unhinged people with anger management issues and restraining orders to be flagged
...I support 21 year old age restrictions
...and I support magazine size restrictions

And so do millions of other responsible gun enthusiasts

...right wing gun nuts support nothong, everything is a slippery slope

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

I again challenge you, your handgun, your rifle at your range with your range officer . again my handgun and rifle at my range with their range officer...... im calling you out once again to use your skills to embarrass me.... your guns at home court.

Loser never posts on this forum again, or 100 bucks a point at 100 rounds and a 6 month vacation with read only.

Surely a badass like you with all them skills can wreck some ignorant hard right redneck ........ show the forum you're not a lying sack of shit and make a good example of me.

Fight or flight...... show us your true colors.

Smedley_buzkill

I am a gun enthusiast. I am also a veteran and unlike you, I have been in a shooting fight. I competed against active duty law enforcement and have won one competition and placed in the top five in three others.
I do support background checks that we have now. The problems start after the check is done and the 100,000 plus stops last year alone resulted in less than one hundred prosecutions. The goobermint claims a lack of funding. That's odd; they just gave 40 billion dollars of our money to Ukraine.
We have instant background checks right now that work just fine almost all the time. At least as well as the "waiting period" you espouse.
We already have mental health reporting. Once more nothing is perfect.
Red flag laws such as Florida's are fine. They must be preferred by law enforcement, medical personnel or an officer of the court, upon receipt of evidence, and the complaint must be sworn to on penalty of perjury by the complainant. You don't have these petty and malicious actions like in MD, where anyone can swear to a red flag complaint with no proof and no penalties for lying. This resulted in the death of at least one innocent man.
If the subject is found innocent his property is returned IMMEDIATELY, he doesn't have to wait months to get it back. How would you like it if someone swore out a red flag on you because you pissed them off and all your expensive toys were confiscated and you had to wait months to get them back after having been found innocent?
As for magazine restrictions, why? I thought you were some sort of expert. Pore lil' ol' me, who only qualified expert with both rifle and pistol in the Army, and who has actually been in a shooting fight, can change out a magazine in less than five seconds, usually in about three or four. You mean to tell me an expert like you with all your expensive toys can't do this? It is a skill that takes an hour to learn. (Maybe two hours or three for a ten-thumbed Liberal.)
Maybe you can explain to this old knuckle-walker what difference a larger magazine makes when most mass shootings are ambushes in which no one can shoot back because they happen in gun free zones? I know, pass more laws that say no guns allowed; that should solve the problem. When no one can return fire, and anyone with normal dexterity can change out magazines in a couple of heartbeats, what the hell difference does the magazine size make? I personally prefer the twenty over the thirty, simply because back when I was in the Army the twenty's were less likely to have spring problems.
One more thing; all your expensive toys to give yourself a "competitive edge" and all the tacticool crap so popular today means nothing in a real fight. You are probably going to be taken by surprise, or at least without much notice. Most incidents occur at less than twenty yards.Your target is shooting back and if you aren't moving you are an idiot. I have trained to shoot while moving and it's totally different. Now try it when you're being shot at. You want something that will actually benefit you in real life, practice shooting on the move and getting at least three rounds into a torso sized target at distances of ten to twenty yards as fast as you can. You don't need to drive tacks, you need to put rounds in the torso as fast as you can at realistic ranges.

PeterS

Would you support a ban on all semi-automatic weapons? What isn't being addressed is the harm done to the psyche of the nation every time someone takes a semi-automatic weapon and lets loose on a group of people.

What has to happen, eventually, is that any and all semi-automatic weapons currently in someone's possession are grandfathered in but can only be used legally on gun ranges. But there can be no further manufacture, import, or sale of a semi-automatic weapon, and the bullets and clips necessary for their function are treated the same. And of course, there will be a full buyback program. Eventually, the semi-automatic will become so expensive to buy on the black market that only the most determined criminals are going to buy them. As for the mentally ill, it will be harder and harder for them to come up with the cash necessary to buy an AR15 making mass shootings because of mental illness a much more rare event...

Smedley_buzkill

I suppose the mass shooters will just have to go back to killing people with bolt action rifles and handguns. Did you ever stop to think that these mass shootings invariably happen in gun free zones where no one can shoot back? Did you ever stop to think that in a case like that it doesn't matter what kind of gun you have? Wait, what am I saying? I just asked you if you ever stopped to think. Obviously I didn't or I would have realized that Liberals don't think; they just regurgitate some talking point that sounds intelligent whether it is or not. We are talking Liberal intelligence here; an oxymoron if I ever heard one, and it is much easier to step over the bar of Liberal intelligence than it is to crawl under it.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Your obsession with the semi-auto firearms, particularly the AR15, is pathological. There is nothing rational or reasonable in that kind of thinking. It is definitely a bizarre manifestation of Hoplophobia to single out a particular firearm for extinction.

A dangerous psychotic who wants to kill children in school could just as easily use a pump shotgun,
a lever action rifle, a revolver, a machete, or even a base ball bat.

Killer disconnected from reality, jacked on adrenaline, possibly drugs, weapon free zone, target rich environment, helpless, defenseless victims, whose gonna stop him?

And, if you were the teacher in that classroom, God have mercy on you all.

Bevvy

would you support a ban on anyone under 21 joining the military ? After all they would have access to automatic rifles and large magazines. They can join at 17

American Vet

Great idea - have an essentially unarmed population.

Criminals really like you non-thinking leftists

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, almost every major study on defensive gun use has found that Americans use their firearms defensively between 500,000 and 3 million times each year. There’s good reason to believe that most defensive gun uses are never reported to law enforcement, much less picked up by local or national media outlets.
https://datavisualizations.heritage.org/firearms/defensive-gun-uses-in-the-us/

Rose42

Lol. He’ll never take you up on it.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Well thought out with true hi~lited sound references..

Like you I support background checks and mental exams for proven issues before simply taking and keeping the persons weapon or “ labeling” them with mental problems..

I once did the outdoors moving target training course. Embarrassingly I didn’t pass the first time.., I didn’t hit one but you can bet I took it a second time and then did pass. Absolutely nothing easy about it and certainly quite different.

Liberty Tree

If you support all this how did you pass the test?

Big Kahuna

But do you support the second amendment?

Bassman65

Wasn’t there a deranged individual who blew up a school in the 1930’s that killed over 40 children?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yes, the Bath School bombing in Bath, Michigan on May 18, 1927 - 44 dead, 38 of whom were children.

The most deadly mass killing in US history was the Tulsa Race Massacre on May 31 and June 1, 1921 - 101 years ago - took the lives of 300 and injured 800. The violence began when white mobs attacked the black residents and business of the Greenwood District in Tulsa. The attack was carried out using guns, fire and private aircraft and aided by the United States National Guard. The attack, carried out on the ground and from private aircraft, destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the district – at that time the wealthiest black community in the United States, known as "Black Wall Street". Thousands were left homeless.

Did some research this morning for another thread. According to statistical analysis by Princeton University and others, the odds of you being killed in a mass shooting is 0.00000143%. That is close to the same odds of being struck by lightning.

There is something entirely pathological in the way leftists inflate, over-exaggerate, or otherwise hyperbolize the lethality of a particular semi-automatic rifle. You'd think this particular gun is a WMD just one notch below a 5 kiloton tactical nuke. Can't get any more irrational than that.

son of witless

Are you honestly saying it will end there ? Come on lie to me. If you lie good enough I will believe you.