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Why Is It So Hard To Understand What Disinformation And Propaganda Is?
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May 6, 2022 12:23:36   #
Bevvy
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the truth, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their truth is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the truth is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


“a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." JFK

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May 6, 2022 12:28:20   #
Barbancon
 
Nice memes!

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May 6, 2022 14:35:35   #
Antimarxist21
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the truth, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their truth is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the truth is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


You can spin it anyway u like in an attempt to confuse. As far as I'm concerned, they are the same. If the shoe fits, wear it.

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May 6, 2022 17:02:26   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
Bevvy wrote:
“a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." JFK


The last Democrat.



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May 6, 2022 22:12:13   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Bevvy wrote:
“a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." JFK


Your JFK quote is spot on. Back when politicians had integrity . And believed in their country.

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May 6, 2022 22:24:32   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Your JFK quote is spot on. Back when politicians had integrity . And believed in their country.


"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
JFK inaugural address, Jan. 20, 1961

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May 7, 2022 00:02:58   #
elledee
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the truth, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their truth is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the truth is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


Yes when it comes to disinformation and propaganda your the expert and really full of it

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May 7, 2022 00:04:44   #
elledee
 
Barbancon wrote:
The Obama administration legalized the use of propaganda against the American people (a declaration of war).

The entire Democrat Party is a seditious organized crime syndicate funded by globalists like the Nazi collaborator Grigori Schwartz aka George Soros, and much of the Republican Party leadership are under the control of the same globalist coalition that seeks to destroy American sovereignty and our constitution.

We regard their operatives in the permanent deep state bureaucracy in DC as part of this alien and hostile foreign occupation force.

Disinformation and propaganda is the policy of those globalists making war against us. To purport they are opposed to disinformation is risible. They are the source of disinformation and propaganda and are seeking to censor and ban anyone that questions the official globalist anti-American narrative.
The Obama administration legalized the use of prop... (show quote)


Right effin on!!!!!!!

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May 7, 2022 10:50:26   #
melloncolley
 
In addition, if you attempt to CHEAT again, there will be a price to pay!

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May 7, 2022 12:21:54   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the truth, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their truth is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the truth is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


If it's not so hard to figure out what propaganda or disinformation is then "surely we don't need a Gov dept dedicated to it. See, I just saved us millions!!!

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May 7, 2022 12:25:34   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Strycker wrote:
Since you point to Republicans as the purveyors of disinformation. You say that propaganda, disinformation and lies are easily discernable. Then please explain how the Steel dossier, the Biden laptop, the Trump impeachments, the Kavanaugh hearings, the virus origins and economic shutdowns, mask mandates, the ACA supposedly being affordable, the "summer of love" riots, and on and on have all been issues that those Democrats were no able to recognize. How these same people in power now would have treated each of these supposed truths differently had they had a disinformation board. When you can show that those in power fought against each one of those disinformation lies then maybe they would earn the right and trust to be the arbiters of truth. Until then, no one in, or potentially in a position of authority is trustworthy enough to have this power.
Since you point to Republicans as the purveyors of... (show quote)


Agree 100%. When we shut down any speach, we shut down all speach!

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May 8, 2022 02:33:25   #
Barbancon
 
The fact that they chose a rabid millennial woke bot shows that this is a partisan, rather then a good faith effort.

They obviously want complete centralized control to censor/shut down their critics.

They are openly at war with the First Amendment. How liberal and tolerant of them.

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