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Why Is It So Hard To Understand What Disinformation And Propaganda Is?
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May 5, 2022 12:19:47   #
woodguru
 
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the t***h, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their t***h is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the t***h is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.

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May 5, 2022 12:25:55   #
Barbancon
 
Only authoritarian governments have an official Ministry of T***h, and a Department of Homeland Security that consider their own citizens the greatest threat to the country.

We are not afraid of the Biden crime family.

We have the evidence and will expose their crimes and remove them from power. Nothing can stop what is coming.

We are not afraid of you Myorkis, you lying subversive. We will hold you accountable for not protecting this country from foreign invasion.

We are not afraid of Jankowitz’ illegal thought police run by a subversive and incompetent woke bot.

We, the children of the founding fathers of this country have sworn an oath to protect this country against such domestic enemies.

Because you have made war against us and against our constitution, we intend to put you on trial before US military tribunals for violating your oaths of office, conspiracy, s******n, treason, and providing aid and comfort to enemies of the United States in time of war.

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May 5, 2022 12:57:37   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the t***h, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their t***h is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the t***h is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


Every dictator has their base of supporters who are all on board with censorship of opposing views, posting blatant lies as t***h and refusing to print dissenting opinions, and who are stupid enough to believe that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" is simply a suggestion.

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May 5, 2022 13:01:03   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Every dictator has their base of supporters who are all on board with censorship of opposing views, posting blatant lies as t***h and refusing to print dissenting opinions, and who are stupid enough to believe that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" is simply a suggestion.
Every dictator has their base of supporters who ar... (show quote)

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May 5, 2022 13:17:53   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the t***h, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their t***h is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the t***h is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


It's not that difficult.
Bolsheviks (like you) ARE DISINFORMATION.
That's how you roll. Machiavelli wouldn't have dreamed. But Marx did. And you follow.
So keep posting.
We're discounting.

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May 5, 2022 13:24:02   #
Barbancon
 
The Obama administration legalized the use of propaganda against the American people (a declaration of war).

The entire Democrat Party is a s*******s organized crime syndicate funded by g*******ts like the N**i collaborator Grigori Schwartz aka George Soros, and much of the Republican Party leadership are under the control of the same g*******t coalition that seeks to destroy American sovereignty and our constitution.

We regard their operatives in the permanent deep state bureaucracy in DC as part of this alien and hostile foreign occupation force.

Disinformation and propaganda is the policy of those g*******ts making war against us. To purport they are opposed to disinformation is risible. They are the source of disinformation and propaganda and are seeking to censor and ban anyone that questions the official g*******t anti-American narrative.

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May 5, 2022 14:23:53   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the t***h, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their t***h is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the t***h is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


Since you point to Republicans as the purveyors of disinformation. You say that propaganda, disinformation and lies are easily discernable. Then please explain how the Steel dossier, the Biden laptop, the Trump impeachments, the Kavanaugh hearings, the v***s origins and economic shutdowns, mask mandates, the ACA supposedly being affordable, the "summer of love" r**ts, and on and on have all been issues that those Democrats were no able to recognize. How these same people in power now would have treated each of these supposed t***hs differently had they had a disinformation board. When you can show that those in power fought against each one of those disinformation lies then maybe they would earn the right and trust to be the arbiters of t***h. Until then, no one in, or potentially in a position of authority is trustworthy enough to have this power.

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May 5, 2022 14:54:46   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the t***h, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their t***h is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the t***h is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


***Why Is It So Hard To Understand What Disinformation And Propaganda Is?
>>>Because we have so many people like you trying to justify your misinformation and propaganda.

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May 5, 2022 14:57:22   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Barbancon wrote:
Only authoritarian governments have an official Ministry of T***h, and a Department of Homeland Security that consider their own citizens the greatest threat to the country.

We are not afraid of the Biden crime family.

We have the evidence and will expose their crimes and remove them from power. Nothing can stop what is coming.

We are not afraid of you Myorkis, you lying subversive. We will hold you accountable for not protecting this country from foreign invasion.

We are not afraid of Jankowitz’ illegal thought police run by a subversive and incompetent woke bot.

We, the children of the founding fathers of this country have sworn an oath to protect this country against such domestic enemies.

Because you have made war against us and against our constitution, we intend to put you on trial before US military tribunals for violating your oaths of office, conspiracy, s******n, treason, and providing aid and comfort to enemies of the United States in time of war.
Only authoritarian governments have an official Mi... (show quote)


Good one Barbancon

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May 5, 2022 15:00:34   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Strycker wrote:
Since you point to Republicans as the purveyors of disinformation. You say that propaganda, disinformation and lies are easily discernable. Then please explain how the Steel dossier, the Biden laptop, the Trump impeachments, the Kavanaugh hearings, the v***s origins and economic shutdowns, mask mandates, the ACA supposedly being affordable, the "summer of love" r**ts, and on and on have all been issues that those Democrats were no able to recognize. How these same people in power now would have treated each of these supposed t***hs differently had they had a disinformation board. When you can show that those in power fought against each one of those disinformation lies then maybe they would earn the right and trust to be the arbiters of t***h. Until then, no one in, or potentially in a position of authority is trustworthy enough to have this power.
Since you point to Republicans as the purveyors of... (show quote)


Well said Strycker

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May 5, 2022 15:03:20   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the t***h, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their t***h is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the t***h is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


Absolutely! The t***h is wh**ever you say it is. Why can't everybody see that?

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May 5, 2022 16:22:46   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the t***h, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their t***h is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the t***h is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)
You ask: Why Is It So Hard To Understand What Disinformation And Propaganda Is?
You answer: It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are.
Then, loaded to the gills with arrogance, you apply circular reasoning, logical fallacies, vagaries, ambiguity, and veiled accusations, as you proceed to tell us you have figured out "how easy it is" to tell right from wrong, fact from fiction, and the t***h from the lies.

Bottom line, if it so easy to make these distinctions, I should think even a ten year old could do it.
BTW, what makes you think I can't?

Without even realizing it, what you have demonstrated with this post is how easy it is to spread propaganda, disinformation and lies.

Have you ever applied your phenomenal, highly developed sk**l as a minister of disinformation to the rhetoric coming from Joe Biden, Kamala-Ho, N**i Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Alejandro Mayorkas, or anyone else in the DC Mob?
Are you aware the Washington Post gave up cataloguing Biden's lies after his first 100 days in office?
The false and misleading claims President Biden made during his first 100 days in office

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May 6, 2022 09:18:15   #
agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***Why Is It So Hard To Understand What Disinformation And Propaganda Is?
>>>Because we have so many people like you trying to justify your misinformation and propaganda.


YUP !

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May 6, 2022 10:29:44   #
Bevvy
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the t***h, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their t***h is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the t***h is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


when you go to the pump to fill up and look at the price - dont believe your lying eyes !
when you shop for bread and milk and there is none - dont believe your lying eyes , just push an empty cart to cashier , tell him/her what you have so you can be charged for it !
When you look at your 401k , dont believe your lying eyes !
When you look at your stock portfolio , dont believe your lying eyes !
When you see the president say" you know , the thing" dont believe your lying eyes or ears !
When a hornet stings you , and you think it hurts , dont believe your lying mind !

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May 6, 2022 12:21:25   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, disinformation, and lies are...it isn't even hard to understand how it is they work in terms of how misinformation intentionally creates a situation where people do not know what to believe anymore.

The problem here is that everyone including those who it is effective against knows these things, yet they are completely close minded about trying to figure out first what is incorrect, which would then lead one to see who is doing the lying, then reason why in terms of who was being misled.

Meanwhile the people who see the lying coming, recognize it as it's happening, are stuck watching people fully accept varying degrees of things that are wrong to things that it seems like only truly brain dead people could fall for...

Which then leads us to the ones that are effectively falling for the misinformation believing that what they believe is the t***h, so any efforts to shine a light on misinformation feels to them like their t***h is being attacked.

Even those who have been rendered unsure of what the t***h is anymore have to be part of a solution for exposing lies and countering them with the facts...otherwise this is an endless circle of sheer raw comic level stupidity.

Every dictator has their base of supporters that bought the misinformation and rhetoric...so does this one, and it isn't Biden supporters.
It's not that hard to figure out what propaganda, ... (show quote)


The Liar-in-chief has a monopoly on lies.















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