An Atheist? Me? (Page 3): What church are you referring to? Bible scholars and clergymen crunched the numbers. They researched the Biblical record to count the total deaths recorded...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

woodguru wrote:

Pretty hard to forget how ruthless the church has been through the centuries, inquisitions, torture, burning books that contradicted the church, all in an effort to eliminate non believers. Fascism, religious rule, it's all the same, atheists are free from all of someone dictating to them except the laws of the land.

What church are you referring to?

Bible scholars and clergymen crunched the numbers.
They researched the Biblical record to count the total deaths recorded,
they added the death tolls for the persecutions, the Inquisitions and the Crusades,
nearly all of which were carried out by the Roman Catholic church.
The grand total of deaths from ALL CAUSES - natural, disease, suicide, murder, famine, war and pestilence -
is less than 25 million. Even atheists, in their attempts to demonize the Bible, couldn't count more than that.

In the 1400 years since its founding, Islam (Muslims) have murdered 290 million - infidels, Jews, Christians, and Muslims. Islam is The Greatest Murder Machine in History

During the 20th century - the most violent century in human history - atheist governments murdered 262 million of their own citizens. This number is over two times the number killed in war action, both combatant and civilian.
The university political science professor who researched this for 30 years named it "DEMOCIDE" - Death by government.

You make prejudicial, even hateful, unsupported statements about something you know nothing about,
yet you push the notion that anyone who doesn't think as you do is cognitively impaired.

If you ever hope to divest yourself of the hypocrisy and still retain the desire to condemn religions,
I suggest you take a close look at Islam - The Religion of Peace.

woodguru

Roamin' Catholic wrote:

The evil done under the pretext of Judeo-Christian beliefs pales in comparison by many orders of magnitude to the abominations committed in the name of earthly rulers, countries, race, greed and politics.

And atrocities committed by so called religious men acting in defiance of religious teaching cannot be counted against the religion.

There you went, right to the equivalency of we are not as bad as...which is how the right has sunk to the levels they are at right now. How about we stomp out wrong where we see it, and stick to the legal justice system to administer it rather than the thuggery and instant justice the right is heading us for.

Big Bass

woodguru wrote:

Many on the right are calling for hanging and instant justice for supposed crimes of treason against the right.

Against the Country and Constitution, idiot, against the Country and Constitution.

woodguru

Roamin' Catholic wrote:

And atrocities committed by so called religious men acting in defiance of religious teaching cannot be counted against the religion.

The right certainly wants to hold all of the muslims accountable for their zealotry and terrorist side, good thing we don't associate christians with their bad apples huh?

Such as those who attack abortion clinics and mosques, who attack gays?

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Blade_Runner wrote:

What church are you referring to? br br Bible sch... (show quote)

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Thanksfor finding better numbers for the dead!

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Big Bass wrote:

Absolute BS.

He said with conviction. A Tom Swiftly.

We all speak with conviction, just different conversations. Like who is the most corrupt. A race to the bottom for whose who will benefit.

Clue, not us.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

woodguru wrote:

The right certainly wants to hold all of the muslims accountable for their zealotry and terrorist side, good thing we don't associate christians with their bad apples huh?

Such as those who attack abortion clinics and mosques, who attack gays?

Give us an accounting of the number of attacks on abortion clinics, mosques, and gays,
identify the attackers and include the death toll.

You're not only a hypocrite, you are a coward to boot.
When someone throws some facts in your face challenging your tomfoolery,
you run off with your tail tucked and take another diarrhetic shit somewhere else in the thread.
Or, you start another thread to pick up where you left off.

martsiva

woodguru wrote:

Pretty hard to forget how ruthless the church has been through the centuries, inquisitions, torture, burning books that contradicted the church, all in an effort to eliminate non believers. Fascism, religious rule, it's all the same, atheists are free from all of someone dictating to them except the laws of the land.

martsiva

RascalRiley wrote:

“ In order to consolidate and maintain their leadership, orders go out to arrest, imprison or kill all opposition to the new government and its leader. ”

When the Republicans take over, the Freedom Caucus has vowed to do just. Jail (hang) anyone who does not support the MAGA grifters movement.

And Trump adherents will give thanks to America’s god for delivering them into an authoritarian theocracy.

Give us your source for your BS opinions!!!!

martsiva

woodguru wrote:

Pretty hard to forget how ruthless the church has been through the centuries, inquisitions, torture, burning books that contradicted the church, all in an effort to eliminate non believers. Fascism, religious rule, it's all the same, atheists are free from all of someone dictating to them except the laws of the land.

Tell us - how many inquisitions the church is involved in now!! What, where and how are all the church tortures now!! Tell us just where the book burnings that contradict the church now!! Tell us where the religious rule in this country is now!! Good grief - you even equate fascism with religious rule when they different!! 'Someone dictating' when the Democrats are trying o dictate un-Constitutional laws in this country but you agree with that!!

martsiva

woodguru wrote:

Look at DeSantis to see a mini dictator and how fascism starts.

Since when is allowing parents their LEGAL rights to call out board members to stop exposing their children to harmful content fascism?? How does that make DeSantis a dictator??? Come on - you made this stupid comment so back it up OR will you run and hide like you always do???

martsiva

RascalRiley wrote:

All part of the powers that be master plan.

Can you imagine how useful this will be when republicans take over.

No more fake news. Fox Entertainment, OAN, Newsmax, Epoch News and all the dingbats will be all that is allowed.

Hate the Dems until it is to late.

You made this asinine comment while YOU mainly watch the biased liars on MSM or the leftist biased Raw Story???

Nelson7

Or you might ask an atheist such as me what basis I use for morality. As a kid my parents taught me not to lie or steal or hurt people. As an adult a combination of the Chinese golden rule “ Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself” along with the libertarian idea of self ownership will lead to similar rules. It should be illegal for me to hit you on the head with a hammer because your head belongs to you. If I hit myself it may be stupid but my head, my choice, and I get the consequence.
I do not believe that a nanny state should decide for us. I am not a socialist or anything similar. I think best thing is actual free market competition for my business without special laws to favor the politically connected.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

martsiva wrote:

You made this asinine comment while YOU mainly watch the biased liars on MSM or the leftist biased Raw Story???

I do not respect Trump. I see him as a user. A very successful user.

okie don

RascalRiley wrote:

I do not respect Trump. I see him as a user. A very successful user.

You really don't have a 'dog in this hunt' as you don't live here Riley...
By the same token I wouldn't care to live in Canada with this Trudeau guy as your leader.