Birdmam wrote:
Number two is a lie it was proven that about a week ago get your story straight
There's no factual assertion in my paragraph 2 so how can there be a lie? And what was "proven"? And by who?
Yes oh learned one. Only facts ...sure ! We are lied to on every corner.
You should be our leader if you can prove you don't lie!
Grandpa Rick wrote:
Most political, economic, etc., issues have at least two sides to examine, and a person wishing to take an intelligent position will first examine all of them. That's what I thought I would be doing when I joined OPP a few months ago. We all know how naive I was.
But I'm an optimist too, so let me make a few suggestions that might make it harder for you to respond but will make your eventual response more meaningful.
1. Don't defend Trump by telling us how bad Biden is, and don't defend Biden by telling us how bad Trump was. Even if one were the devil incarnate that doesn't make the other an angel.
2. Remember that two wrongs don't make a right. And don't argue that they do. Hillary's emails don't equate to the 7 plus hours of missing white house phone records. One of these may be wrong and the other even worse.
3. Don't penalize the children for the sins of their parents (example: the attempts to justify the invasion of the Ukraine because there were Nazis there during WW II).
4. Don't call names. Aside from such conduct being juvenile, it is strong evidence that the name caller is simply frustrated by not having an intelligent rebuttal.
5. Call out posts that are racist, sexist, antisemitic or otherwise bigoted. African Americans range politically between AL Sharpton and Clarence Thomas, so you wouldn't say they are all Democrats; why then would you say that they were all some other (usually negative) thing or condition? Bigotry is simply illogical and should be discouraged from attempts at rational discussion.
Is anyone listening?
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Your #3 is confusing me. There are Nazi's in Ukraine now.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/the-azov-battalion-the-neo-nazis-of-ukraine/article65239935.eceI also searched or sins of the Fathers and that is really confusing in the Bible. Some scripture talks about into the 3rd and 4th generations and others deny that to be so that the sins of the fathers cannot be transferred to the children nor the sins of the children to the fathers.
You are making good points though.
I'm willing to believe that there are Ukrainian nazis today. That's no reason to justify an invasion.
There are nazis in the U.S. today but I don't think Putin will.invade us.
I don't know, but I suspect the Ukrainian.nazi movement was at least in part a response to the communism of neighboring Russia. Germany's nazis were also killing German communists as well as jews, gypsies and others. That doesn't justify nazism but might explain its presence.
Grandpa Rick, You're ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!! But, it's hard to imagine most people, or even many people, being willing or able to set aside their bigoted views. I hope and pray that many people will start being how you expected them to. Of course each person can only do it themselves, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO BE CAREFUL BEFORE QNSWERING SOMEONE THAT I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH! I HOPE & PRAY THAT MANY PEOPLE HERE ON OPP WILL LISTEN TO YOU,GRANDPA RICK, AND TRY TO CLEAN UP THEIR ACT! THANK YOU & GOD BLESS YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO EVERYONES ATTENTION!!
maureenthannon wrote:
Grandpa Rick, You're ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!! But, it's hard to imagine most people, or even many people, being willing or able to set aside their bigoted views. I hope and pray that many people will start being how you expected them to. Of course each person can only do it themselves, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO BE CAREFUL BEFORE QNSWERING SOMEONE THAT I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH! I HOPE & PRAY THAT MANY PEOPLE HERE ON OPP WILL LISTEN TO YOU,GRANDPA RICK, AND TRY TO CLEAN UP THEIR ACT! THANK YOU & GOD BLESS YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO EVERYONES ATTENTION!!
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As that is a nice, thoughtful and respectful reply, many thanks to you, also, Maureen.
Grandpa Rick wrote:
I'm willing to believe that there are Ukrainian nazis today. That's no reason to justify an invasion.
There are nazis in the U.S. today but I don't think Putin will.invade us.
I don't know, but I suspect the Ukrainian.nazi movement was at least in part a response to the communism of neighboring Russia. Germany's nazis were also killing German communists as well as jews, gypsies and others. That doesn't justify nazism but might explain its presence.
The justification came when the Ukrainian nazis began Brutallizing the Russian population of the Ukraine...
You may not feel blood bonds, but in other parts of the world they still run strong..
Grandpa Rick wrote:
There's no factual assertion in my paragraph 2 so how can there be a lie? And what was "proven"? And by who?
There is no missing phone records
Birdmam wrote:
There is no missing phone records
Where are the records? What is your source?
RascalRiley wrote:
Where are the records? What is your source?
Come on guys it came out last week that that was all fake news I’m too lazy to do your homework
Birdmam wrote:
Come on guys it came out last week that that was all fake news I’m too lazy to do your homework
He did not take or place any calls for seven hours. That works for cult members.
RascalRiley wrote:
He did not take or place any calls for seven hours. That works for cult members.
It wasn’t a him it was a she and she did not come in to work that day that’s why there was no phone records that came out a week ago
RascalRiley wrote:
He did not take or place any calls for seven hours. That works for cult members.
And if it was true they would be talking about it 24 seven every day and they are not anymore
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