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Apr 6, 2022 15:40:46   #
Grandpa Rick
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Fox says the Russians did it. Try again.


Thanks for the correction. But now I have to wonder where does that guy get his news?

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Apr 6, 2022 16:02:39   #
Carol Kelly
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You did and I took it hard! But, I am still trying to see what the truth is here.

I'll be honest, I don't like Zelensky. I think he is of the same ilk of the area, a tribal racist, trying to suck the EU and NATO into the war. He especially hates Russians, he has since he was "elected," and is actively trying to delete their rights giving preferences to Ukrainians. He has waged a civil war against those who want to separate from Kiev and Ukraine, as they have wanted to do since before the break up of the USSR. This is not a new thing, Russians not wanting to be under Ukraine governance. These people have hated each other since WAY before all this. I do not think their hate of each other is worth a single drop of US blood or riches outside of humanitarian aid. Star Trek analogy coming! As in Star Trek, Ukraine is not fit for membership in the Federation of Planets (NATO) for all of those reasons.

And now, we are just accepting that all these dead people, who were obviously tortured and killed out right, were killed by the Russian military. Until I see true proof, I am going to have to say that there is no evidence clearing either side of the atrocity!! Many say it is obvious. Show me. How do you know?? As Captain of the Enterprise, the Prime Directive is in play here!
You did and I took it hard! But, I am still tryin... (show quote)


You may not like Zelenskyy, but he’s done right by his people and as I remember, several of the leaders were in place by Russia. Finally a good man, who would not back down
to Putin was poisoned and very nearly died. Believe his life was saved by the British. The things that Putin is after is in and under the ground…minerals, etc. He can completely crush Ukraine and still achieve all he wants. He’s an evil man, nearing the end of his time and hopefully the Russian people can take their country back.

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Apr 6, 2022 16:11:24   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
You may not like Zelenskyy, but he’s done right by his people and as I remember, several of the leaders were in place by Russia. Finally a good man, who would not back down
to Putin was poisoned and very nearly died. Believe his life was saved by the British. The things that Putin is after is in and under the ground…minerals, etc. He can completely crush Ukraine and still achieve all he wants. He’s an evil man, nearing the end of his time and hopefully the Russian people can take their country back.
You may not like Zelenskyy, but he’s done right by... (show quote)


There was no civil war until the pro Russian leader was deposed by the US and the EU. Protests, yes, but no shelling of the east and Crimea. Crimea even had a water supply which was cut off by the US backed installed leader.

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Apr 6, 2022 16:12:16   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Grandpa Rick wrote:
Thanks for the correction. But now I have to wonder where does that guy get his news?


He's a bit off, so good question.

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Apr 6, 2022 18:46:17   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
And I’ve been disappointed in you a few times. I believe I told you so. You seemed to think there for awhile that Zelensky was the criminal


Zelensky is a criminal...

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Apr 6, 2022 18:48:07   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
woodguru wrote:
Satellite imaging over a 10 day period shows bodies in the streets from the time Russians occupied until the time they left.

What your impaired thought processes are having such a hard time figuring out is rather easily verified or debunked through simple satellite imaging, the bodies are either there or they are not, end of debate in terms of when those bodies appeared and when they were left to lie on the ground during a short lived Russian occupation


please provide the images...

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Apr 6, 2022 18:49:09   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
He's a bit off, so good question.


A bit

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Apr 7, 2022 09:20:10   #
Justice101
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
There was no civil war until the pro Russian leader was deposed by the US and the EU. Protests, yes, but no shelling of the east and Crimea. Crimea even had a water supply which was cut off by the US backed installed leader.


Petro Poroshenko is obviously not pro-Russian any longer since he has come back to Ukraine.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poroshenko-putin/2022/04/05/id/1064458/

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Apr 7, 2022 10:00:06   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Justice101 wrote:
Petro Poroshenko is obviously not pro-Russian any longer since he has come back to Ukraine.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poroshenko-putin/2022/04/05/id/1064458/


It sure doesn’t look like it although sour grapes comes in many forms so his opinion on the psychiatric condition of Putin is not relevant, just exactly like the arm chair shrinks who claimed Trump was crazy but make no comment about Biden.

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Apr 7, 2022 10:04:37   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
It sure doesn’t look like it although sour grapes comes in many forms so his opinion on the psychiatric condition of Putin is not relevant, just exactly like the arm chair shrinks who claimed Trump was crazy but make no comment about Biden.


He just witnessed Russia invade his nation...

I'm sure his opinion of Putin took a turn right there.... Rightfully enough..

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Apr 7, 2022 10:27:57   #
Justice101
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
He just witnessed Russia invade his nation...

I'm sure his opinion of Putin took a turn right there.... Rightfully enough..



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Apr 7, 2022 10:41:07   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
He just witnessed Russia invade his nation...

I'm sure his opinion of Putin took a turn right there.... Rightfully enough..


And that is a good point!

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Apr 7, 2022 10:44:22   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
And that is a good point!


I dislike what's happening to my nation... And despise Trudeau... Don't want my daughter growing up there...

But I'd be on a plane home in an instant if we were attacked...

Loyalty...

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Apr 7, 2022 10:46:31   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I dislike what's happening to my nation... And despise Trudeau... Don't want my daughter growing up there...

But I'd be on a plane home in an instant if we were attacked...

Loyalty...


Absolutely, but not to Ukraine. People here think the US is at war with Russia. Maybe they should hop a plane, get over there and fight!

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Apr 7, 2022 10:50:19   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Absolutely, but not to Ukraine. People here think the US is at war with Russia. Maybe they should hop a plane, get over there and fight!


Agreed.... I wouldn't fight for either nation...

I'm just a spectator...

Those people don't actually fight in wars...Wars are just Starbucks conversations to them...

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