Is it, in your opinion, alright to kill over the "n" word? (Page 6): He was a person in a position of authority as the manager, not a good example and I would have to let him go. The...

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Ricktloml wrote:

I'm sorry, but in this particular case, (there were really bad choices on both sides,) but the young black man who punched the white man for calling him the N-word didn't beat him to death, he punched him one time...it was a horrible accident. IMO the sentence was appropriate.

He was a person in a position of authority as the manager, not a good example and I would have to let him go. The racist remark was 100% wrong but if we start punching people in the face every time they offend us, then we will end up with even more violent society. The difference between the racist comment and the punch in the face- words don't kill.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Simple Sam wrote:

There is nothing in that article or any other that says the elder hit the manager.

Did I claim the old man hit the manager? I responded to 'source?' and 'how do you know that'.

Simple Sam Loc: USA

working class stiff wrote:

Did I claim the old man hit the manager? I responded to 'source?' and 'how do you know that'.

the request for 'source' was to agatemaggot and you said he, agatemaggot, read the link in my post.

Iliamna1

Simple Sam wrote:

okay, I sure hope you father, grandfather, uncle, wife or child never is punched once and suffers brain injury or death.

And I hope this doesn't happen to ANYONE, regardless of race, color, creed, etc. What an awful thing to say! To anyone. You need to gey a real life. You have STINKING THINKING.

Gameon

It is NOT ok to kill anyone for this. The judge should be FIRED.7

Bassman65

Simple Sam wrote:

I get called 'Apple' all the time, red on outside and white inside. I have never reacted to this insult. IT IS ONLY A WORD, not worth getting upset over.

Thank you it is only a word elderly people being abused doesn’t matter the race is wrong period. The older gentleman could have had dementia or other age related mental disorders!

Simple Sam Loc: USA

Iliamna1 wrote:

And I hope this doesn't happen to ANYONE, regardless of race, color, creed, etc. What an awful thing to say! To anyone. You need to gey a real life. You have STINKING THINKING.

Could you TRY to follow a thread? My comment was in reply to Ricktloml and it was a wish that being brutalized by an out-of-control thug never happens to someone they love. This, abuse of elderly WHITE people, is played out daily. Attacks on streets, shoving them in front of trains, attack in homes, pistol whippings, attacks after attack and the perp gets off practically Scots Free. The murderer in this case actually came from behind the counter to strike an old man. Connoting pre-thought to harm or kill an elderly man.

Simple Sam Loc: USA

Bassman65 wrote:

Thank you it is only a word elderly people being abused doesn’t matter the race is wrong period. The older gentleman could have had dementia or other age related mental disorders!

Thank you!!! This should have ended differently, had the manager offered him a seat or cup of coffee. Even confused people respond favorably to kindness, and how better to change minds than patience and kindness.

Iliamna1

Simple Sam wrote:

Could you TRY to follow a thread? My comment was ... (show quote)

I AM, following te thread. I maintain you have stinking thinking to wish the same fate on anyone. Period. I'm a white, retired RN and had to deal with various minorities on a busy post-op floor and was accused of being racist and called some filthy names. But I never punched any of them in the face (although there was one person I really, really wanted to), and several had to be fired. But their behavior was well-documented by others.
Perhaps anger management needs to be taught in the schools or as part of employee orientation.

River Reb Loc: MS Delta

microphor wrote:

Me too.

Africans can get away with anything today. To take him to trial would be "racist".

Ricktloml

Simple Sam wrote:

okay, I sure hope you father, grandfather, uncle, wife or child never is punched once and suffers brain injury or death.

I can depend on my family members to not accost perfect strangers and /insult/denigrate/instigate this kind of trouble. The young black man lost his temper, it was wrong of him to punch the other man, but his intent was obviously not to kill him, that is why in this particular instance the sentence is suitable.

Simple Sam Loc: USA

Ricktloml wrote:

I can depend on my family members to not accost perfect strangers and /insult/denigrate/instigate this kind of trouble. The young black man lost his temper, it was wrong of him to punch the other man, but his intent was obviously not to kill him, that is why in this particular instance the sentence is suitable.

How do you know what he was thinking? He called the police, if his 'intent' was benign, why did he decide to go around his counter to hit an old man? If he had no intent to hurt or kill the man, then he could have waited for the police and have them deal with the "hate crime" as someone said, and have the old man arrested? No, the manager decided that he wanted, by his actions, to punch the man in the face, all over bad customer service and one offensive word. The manager should be doing time for manslaughter.

Big dog

Ricktloml wrote:

I'm sorry, but in this particular case, (there were really bad choices on both sides,) but the young black man who punched the white man for calling him the N-word didn't beat him to death, he punched him one time...it was a horrible accident. IMO the sentence was appropriate.

Striking or assulting any senior citizen is is all too likely to cause death. Punching this elder was no less than attempted murder. The fact that it killed a person is all that matters. It was murder outright !!

River Reb Loc: MS Delta

Simple Sam wrote:

Thank you!!! This should have ended differently, had the manager offered him a seat or cup of coffee. Even confused people respond favorably to kindness, and how better to change minds than patience and kindness.

The greatest form of revenge is forgiveness.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Ricktloml wrote:

I can depend on my family members to not accost perfect strangers and /insult/denigrate/instigate this kind of trouble. The young black man lost his temper, it was wrong of him to punch the other man, but his intent was obviously not to kill him, that is why in this particular instance the sentence is suitable.

I do NOT NOT NOT agree with your conclusion. I am not certain of his intent, and I don't think you can be either, however there is no evidence that this was his intent. BUT it does NOT matter. the whole POINT of having involuntary manslaughter as a crime is to make people THINK before they get violent, because they WILL BE HELD REPONSIBLE and there will be HARSH CONSEQUENCES! I understand the man's rage. Nevetheless, he SURRENDERED to his rage, and slammed his fist into the face of a 77 year old man who may or may not have been competent. The man DIED as a direct result of the manager's uncontrolled rage.
The punishment did NOT fit the crime. If I were the judge, he would have gotten at least 5 years in prison.
Furthermore, this was a disgusting plea deal by a stupid and incompetent DA who accepted a lesser charge, and was compounded by a judge who gave the manager a slap on the wrist. Going forward, every defense lawyer in the country will be pointing to this case as a precedent for light sentences.