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Feb 27, 2022 08:31:51   #
son of witless
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The Ukrainians who want independence are bots... Sure... 15,000 dead bots...

The Russians aren't targeting civilians...But you're right, they'll react to being attacked...Civilians who take up arms are no longer civilians...They're combatants and fair game...

Lots of information out there... Why stick to the MSM???
Putin just declared that Russia will begin its advance again... They weren't stalled.. They were holding...


Pu tin has a history of sending in bots who then pretend to be fighting for independence against what ever sovereign country he wants to steal a piece of.

Vlad loves taking a page from Adolf Hitler's playbook. Hitler agitated the Germans in Sudetenland, which was part of Czechoslovakia. That gave him an excuse to demand the weak and pathetic Western Allies hand over Sudetenland to him. Of course like Vlad is doing now Herr Adolf swallowed up all of Czechoslovakia.

I'm fairly sure China and North Korea are watching the West closely. China sooner or later will test the West over Taiwan and North Korea just launched a missile. The bad guys are forever testing the resolve of the good guys.

Unfortunately when the West is weak, countries like the Ukraine have the citizens murdered.

This is really not about the bad guys. They are always there ready to attack. It is always about whether the good guys elect weak and stupid leaders. Thank God Angela Merckle is finally gone in Germany. Right now Joe Biden has been forced to put on his big boy pants, but I doubt he is up to the job.

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Feb 27, 2022 08:35:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
Pu tin has a history of sending in bots who then pretend to be fighting for independence against what ever sovereign country he wants to steal a piece of.

Vlad loves taking a page from Adolf Hitler's playbook. Hitler agitated the Germans in Sudetenland, which was part of Czechoslovakia. That gave him an excuse to demand the weak and pathetic Western Allies hand over Sudetenland to him. Of course like Vlad is doing now Herr Adolf swallowed up all of Czechoslovakia.

I'm fairly sure China and North Korea are watching the West closely. China sooner or later will test the West over Taiwan and North Korea just launched a missile. The bad guys are forever testing the resolve of the good guys.

Unfortunately when the West is weak, countries like the Ukraine have the citizens murdered.

This is really not about the bad guys. They are always there ready to attack. It is always about whether the good guys elect weak and stupid leaders. Thank God Angela Merckle is finally gone in Germany. Right now Joe Biden has been forced to put on his big boy pants, but I doubt he is up to the job.
Pu tin has a history of sending in bots who then p... (show quote)


We're not the good guys๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

And the tactic you describe has been used by the US for decades... Right out of Hitler's playbook...

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Feb 27, 2022 08:42:14   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I am...

Putin is fighting for the independence and prosperity of his nation...


Oh flux,
I think Iโ€™m gonna hurl!!!!

If you seriously believe that nonsense , you are in deeper chit than you can really imagine.

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Feb 27, 2022 09:28:05   #
son of witless
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
We're not the good guys๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

And the tactic you describe has been used by the US for decades... Right out of Hitler's playbook...


It depends on your viewpoint. Unlike many of my countrymen, I believe in my country. Now if you please give me examples of that which you speak.

What Vlad is currently doing is the same as if the US found some irate Canadians in some Canadian province, and used that as a pretense to invade Canada. Now in fairness, we did that to Mexico in I think it was the 1840s. That is how we got Texas and California and a few other parcels. Now that we have thoroughly ruined Commie-fornia, we really need to return that to Mexico as damaged goods. I think we will keep Texas.

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Feb 27, 2022 10:15:20   #
jim_shipley
 
When Russia gave up Ukraine we all agreed that they would NEVER be part of nato and would never have missiles on Russia's borders. Biden offered them nato and sent them missiles. He wanted a diversion from his failures and that is the real cause of this war...BIDEN!

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Feb 27, 2022 10:20:39   #
debeda
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
Just agreeing with what you said about the Clintons.


I know, Ginny. I guess sometimes I don't use the right emojis. I was trying to say thanks....

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Feb 27, 2022 10:21:19   #
debeda
 
guzzimaestro wrote:
Underinformed and mis-informed


Very true!!!

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Feb 27, 2022 13:44:44   #
son of witless
 
jim_shipley wrote:
When Russia gave up Ukraine we all agreed that they would NEVER be part of nato and would never have missiles on Russia's borders. Biden offered them nato and sent them missiles. He wanted a diversion from his failures and that is the real cause of this war...BIDEN!


Was that before or after Putin took Crimea ?

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Feb 27, 2022 14:01:17   #
jim_shipley
 
1950s Russia lived up to it we did not.

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Feb 27, 2022 14:25:54   #
Grandpa Rick
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Americans bomb a children's hospital - yawn
Israelis bomb a children's Hospital - yawn
Russians bomb a children's Hospital - bastards!!!!


I hope the hypocrisy is clear...


Are you suggesting that 2 (or even 3) wrongs make a right?

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Feb 27, 2022 15:14:11   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
debeda wrote:
I know, Ginny. I guess sometimes I don't use the right emojis. I was trying to say thanks....


Ah, ok. You're welcome, Deb.

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Feb 27, 2022 15:14:50   #
Grandpa Rick
 
I've just finished reading 7 pages of comments, and I have a few questions and observations:

1. Someone called Putin "a God-fearing man". What God? Mars?

2. Someone said that the Russian advance was slowing to limit civilian casualties. I nominate that for "stupidest statement of the year" award. Several other posters refuted it very well, and now even Fox News opposes Putin's war.

3. The Biden-bashers were all there. As usual, they could not offer any suggestions of what more he (or anyone) could do to have stopped Putin from invading the Ukraine, or what more he should be doing now.
Please, guys, if you think Putin was wrong at least remain silent instead of encouraging Putin to think he has some support here!

4. Germany had already said they would oppose Ukraine's entry into NATO, so that excuse for Putin was never there.

5. Putin's alleged fear of the "natzification" of the Ukraine, the Ukrainian "genocide" of Russian speaking Ukrainians, and concern about being surrounded by NATO appear to be entirely bogus when seen in light of actual world history:
Putin has flat out stated his intention to reconstitute the old U.S.S.R., not necessarily with the same name. He is actively doing that: he took part of Georgia; he took the Crimea; he supports sycophants in former U.S.S.R. countries.

Look at what he did and now does instead of listening to fabricated excuses and justifications.

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Feb 27, 2022 15:17:59   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
jim_shipley wrote:
When Russia gave up Ukraine we all agreed that they would NEVER be part of nato and would never have missiles on Russia's borders. Biden offered them nato and sent them missiles. He wanted a diversion from his failures and that is the real cause of this war...BIDEN!


What one administration does is not incumbent on subsequent administrations - as we have all witnessed.

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Feb 27, 2022 15:20:33   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Your spin on some comments verges on lies.
Fox News never supported Putinโ€™s aggression. Some commentators opposed us getting involved. Either you canโ€™t comprehend or you just lie. Many on here have suggested what weakling Biden could have done. We should have officially, as the big dog in NATO assured Putin the Ukraine would never be admitted to NATO. Takes away Putinโ€™s excuse.
You either lie directly or by admission.


Grandpa Rick wrote:
I've just finished reading 7 pages of comments, and I have a few questions and observations:

1. Someone called Putin "a God-fearing man". What God? Mars?

2. Someone said that the Russian advance was slowing to limit civilian casualties. I nominate that for "stupidest statement of the year" award. Several other posters refuted it very well, and now even Fox News opposes Putin's war.

3. The Biden-bashers were all there. As usual, they could not offer any suggestions of what more he (or anyone) could do to have stopped Putin from invading the Ukraine, or what more he should be doing now.
Please, guys, if you think Putin was wrong at least remain silent instead of encouraging Putin to think he has some support here!

4. Germany had already said they would oppose Ukraine's entry into NATO, so that excuse for Putin was never there.

5. Putin's alleged fear of the "natzification" of the Ukraine, the Ukrainian "genocide" of Russian speaking Ukrainians, and concern about being surrounded by NATO appear to be entirely bogus when seen in light of actual world history:
Putin has flat out stated his intention to reconstitute the old U.S.S.R., not necessarily with the same name. He is actively doing that: he took part of Georgia; he took the Crimea; he supports sycophants in former U.S.S.R. countries.

Look at what he did and now does instead of listening to fabricated excuses and justifications.
I've just finished reading 7 pages of comments, an... (show quote)

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Feb 27, 2022 15:34:15   #
debeda
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
Ah, ok. You're welcome, Deb.


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