Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Mexico will pay for the wall-trade wars are easy to win--The election was stolen--We can be friends with Russia---I won't have time for golfing.
We never found out how Mexico would have paid for the wall. It was never finished and allowed to be fully functional. And why was that? Because the Dems stopped passage of bills FOUR times for financing the wall. He was stonewalled over and over again. And the media "forgets" that Trump did not say "Mexico will pay for the wall." What he said was "Mexico will pay for the wall
indirectly, many many times over."
THIS is what Trump said verbatim:
“Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico (Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options). We will not be taken advantage of anymore.”
EmilyD wrote:
We never found out how Mexico would have paid for the wall. It was never finished and allowed to be fully functional. The media "forgets" that Trump did not say "Mexico will pay for the wall." What he said was "Mexico will pay for the wall indirectly. many many times over."
THIS is what Trump said verbatum: “Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico (Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options). We will not be taken advantage of anymore.”
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Well said, EmilyD. Very smart lady.
fullspinzoo wrote:
Usually you side is dead wrong. Biden is the biggest blatant, pathological liar on the planet. So, don't give me this crap about how holier than thou your POS politicians are. Biden has been CAUGHT, Trump not so much. What campaign promises did Trump break during his 4 years. I'll bet you would hard pressed to name five. Maybe you can' name ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #STFU
You can say that with a straight face in spite of supporting easily the most prolific liar we have ever had as a president?
You say trump never got caught in a lie? Gee, how about the lies, lie after lie about the non disclosure agreement with Stormy Daniels.
...there was never anything to do with a porn star
...hence there was no NDA
...then when she talked about their trysts she was in violation of a non existent NDA
...then he knew nothing about paying for an NDA, Cohen did it without his knowledge
...and on and on every time he was caught in a lie.
How stupid are his supporters that they truly believe he is not a liar, let alone Biden is a bigger liar? That was a rhetorical statement, weapons grade retarded.
woodguru wrote:
Show me two widely differing versions of facts on political topics and I will show you that there is but one set of facts, and one side will be using the facts while the other is using pure garbage that is typically so stupid that it's hard to figure out how people could be so ignorant and stupid as to believe them, because make no mistake they are choosing to believe what they want to believe.
The right chooses to believe in the unproven side, while refusing to even look at the facts because that is supposedly the lies the other side believes.
The only answer to this is to regulate the the facts that are used in media...but those who choose to believe the lies will not support efforts to stem the flow of stupid lies and misinformation. It even goes so far that they will not acknowledge easily proven facts of the most obviously valid sources...everything is a lie, but they choose to believe things that have absolutely no reasonable source.
Lies are just that until you can show a source that is credible, that don't rely on vague sources that "everybody knows". No, everybody doesn't know ridiculous conspiracy theories or accept them as facts.
Those who choose to believe lies also defend the idea that being lied to represents freedom of speech as well, and that is like saying you believe banks have a right to defraud people.
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You mean by Biden on a daily basis?????
Women love to hear lies, men are good at telling them.
woodguru wrote:
Show me two widely differing versions of facts on political topics and I will show you that there is but one set of facts, and one side will be using the facts while the other is using pure garbage that is typically so stupid that it's hard to figure out how people could be so ignorant and stupid as to believe them, because make no mistake they are choosing to believe what they want to believe.
The right chooses to believe in the unproven side, while refusing to even look at the facts because that is supposedly the lies the other side believes.
The only answer to this is to regulate the the facts that are used in media...but those who choose to believe the lies will not support efforts to stem the flow of stupid lies and misinformation. It even goes so far that they will not acknowledge easily proven facts of the most obviously valid sources...everything is a lie, but they choose to believe things that have absolutely no reasonable source.
Lies are just that until you can show a source that is credible, that don't rely on vague sources that "everybody knows". No, everybody doesn't know ridiculous conspiracy theories or accept them as facts.
Those who choose to believe lies also defend the idea that being lied to represents freedom of speech as well, and that is like saying you believe banks have a right to defraud people.
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The Right huh?
How ARE those Dellusions of Russian Collisions working out for ya?
40 million in wasted tax dollars to fund months long investigations only to find out Schiff was FLAT OUT lying through his teeth.
woodguru wrote:
Show me two widely differing versions of facts on political topics and I will show you that there is but one set of facts, and one side will be using the facts while the other is using pure garbage that is typically so stupid that it's hard to figure out how people could be so ignorant and stupid as to believe them, because make no mistake they are choosing to believe what they want to believe.
The right chooses to believe in the unproven side, while refusing to even look at the facts because that is supposedly the lies the other side believes.
The only answer to this is to regulate the the facts that are used in media...but those who choose to believe the lies will not support efforts to stem the flow of stupid lies and misinformation. It even goes so far that they will not acknowledge easily proven facts of the most obviously valid sources...everything is a lie, but they choose to believe things that have absolutely no reasonable source.
Lies are just that until you can show a source that is credible, that don't rely on vague sources that "everybody knows". No, everybody doesn't know ridiculous conspiracy theories or accept them as facts.
Those who choose to believe lies also defend the idea that being lied to represents freedom of speech as well, and that is like saying you believe banks have a right to defraud people.
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2 Facts
1.) Your indoctrinated government schoolteacher told you the Americans defeated the English during the Revolution War.
2.) And the King said he won
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/paris.asp2 more
1.) Once upon a time a guy said "you have a Republic" if you can keep it.
2.) The Founders never created a document for We the People defining what form of a Republic we were to have.
woodguru wrote:
Show me two widely differing versions of facts on political topics and I will show you that there is but one set of facts, and one side will be using the facts while the other is using pure garbage that is typically so stupid that it's hard to figure out how people could be so ignorant and stupid as to believe them, because make no mistake they are choosing to believe what they want to believe.
The right chooses to believe in the unproven side, while refusing to even look at the facts because that is supposedly the lies the other side believes.
The only answer to this is to regulate the the facts that are used in media...but those who choose to believe the lies will not support efforts to stem the flow of stupid lies and misinformation. It even goes so far that they will not acknowledge easily proven facts of the most obviously valid sources...everything is a lie, but they choose to believe things that have absolutely no reasonable source.
Lies are just that until you can show a source that is credible, that don't rely on vague sources that "everybody knows". No, everybody doesn't know ridiculous conspiracy theories or accept them as facts.
Those who choose to believe lies also defend the idea that being lied to represents freedom of speech as well, and that is like saying you believe banks have a right to defraud people.
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You defend lies all the time!!
martsiva wrote:
You defend lies all the time!!
YES, LIES PRACTICED BY PLAYING LIARS POKER
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