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The 59 Republicans Who Joined Electoral Voter Fraud Scheme For Trump Could Face Prison
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Jan 30, 2022 01:52:37   #
JW
 
336Robin wrote:
Apparently not.

It's about investigating this man for crimes he's committed because he did everything he could to cover up and mess with the impeachment proceedings against him because he is a crook. Also because of the extended proceedings, it just so happens that the criminal probes are going to allow him plenty of time to fleece the sheep, (which he is doing). Then the crimes he's committed stop him from ever being president again and the Republicans have to find someone else to run. The Best Scenario is the investigation into him is delayed (by him of course) up until the moment of election day because the lid is going to be blown off of the Republicans who were behind him and that will cost him votes. That is what is really going on here aside from the fact that the sheep are still sending him money. He needs help. Send more now!
Apparently not. br br It's about investigating t... (show quote)


Shouldn't there be a trial before we hang him?

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Jan 30, 2022 07:16:46   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
JW wrote:
Shouldn't there be a trial before we hang him?


He is being tried as we speak. In the court of public opinion.

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Jan 30, 2022 07:33:13   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I suppose political reality it is what is actually happening. We think, depending on our perspectives, that we know what is going on but we each only have a very small frame of view.

I think political reality can only be seen in hindsight.


I can agree with you here…

Perceptional illusion too~~

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Jan 30, 2022 08:13:41   #
American Vet
 
336Robin wrote:
He is being tried as we speak. In the court of public opinion.


I believe that is also known as 'mob rule'.

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Jan 30, 2022 09:55:50   #
Old Thinker
 
I see... you think the world would be better if we were all governed by a anti-Trump progressive woman.... not surprised.... you should learn about the Progressive agenda and the history of the movement.... maybe you wouldn't be so sure... I looked up her voting history and she appears to be a Democrat/Progressive sheep... Impeachment?..yes, Border wall?.. no, Big spending on social programs?.. yes, Energy independence?... no... good luck in your utopia....

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Jan 30, 2022 10:01:32   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
Old Thinker wrote:
I see... you think the world would be better if we were all governed by a anti-Trump progressive woman.... not surprised.... you should learn about the Progressive agenda and the history of the movement.... maybe you wouldn't be so sure... I looked up her voting history and she appears to be a Democrat/Progressive sheep... Impeachment?..yes, Border wall?.. no, Big spending on social programs?.. yes, Energy independence?... no... good luck in your utopia....


Conservative Justices destroyed the political system with a partisan decision called Citizens United which was a Republican idea proposed by a Republican non profit that led to billions in dark money entering politics which silences your voice. Be proud and own that decision before you lay blame on someone else for their sex.

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Jan 30, 2022 10:03:46   #
American Vet
 
336Robin wrote:
Conservative Justices destroyed the political system with a partisan decision called Citizens United which was a Republican idea proposed by a Republican non profit that led to billions in dark money entering politics which silences your voice. Be proud and own that decision before you lay blame on someone else for their sex.


And how does "dark money" (whatever that is) silence my 'voice'?

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Jan 30, 2022 10:11:33   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
American Vet wrote:
And how does "dark money" (whatever that is) silence my 'voice'?


If you can't figure that out for yourself, then nothing I can tell you can convince you.
Perhaps the best term is reduce your voice but your contribution to your politician is now minimal.

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Jan 30, 2022 10:44:10   #
American Vet
 
336Robin wrote:
If you can't figure that out for yourself, then nothing I can tell you can convince you.
Perhaps the best term is reduce your voice but your contribution to your politician is now minimal.


IOW - you got nothing. That is a common leftoid response.....

Thank you

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Jan 30, 2022 10:53:25   #
Old Thinker
 
336Robin wrote:
Conservative Justices destroyed the political system with a partisan decision called Citizens United which was a Republican idea proposed by a Republican non profit that led to billions in dark money entering politics which silences your voice. Be proud and own that decision before you lay blame on someone else for their sex.


You need to go back and re-read my post.... I was responding to a comment that we would be better off if we had more women like Katie Porter in charge... I only blamed her for her progressive voting record not her sex.. I didn't see any evidence that she has proposed that corporations, unions or political action organizations should be prohibited from donating to political campaigns and if you think that so-called dark money only goes to Republicans then you are very naive... personally, I think money in politics is our greatest hurdle to overcome but I don't see either party willing to address that... btw.. I haven't heard of anyone on the left speaking out against the influence of Soros money... hypocrisy at it's finest... "If you can't vote then you shouldn't be allowed to donate." ... I noticed that AOC used outside money... they all do.... and as long as the Supreme Court says that those donations must be allowed because otherwise it would be a violation of their right to freedom of speech then it will continue... it will take an amendment to the constitution to fix it... so what's your point?

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Jan 30, 2022 11:01:49   #
Justice101
 
336Robin wrote:
Conservative Justices destroyed the political system with a partisan decision called Citizens United which was a Republican idea proposed by a Republican non profit that led to billions in dark money entering politics which silences your voice. Be proud and own that decision before you lay blame on someone else for their sex.


Hahaha, you are so off base. "What's good for the goose is good for the gander!"

For much of the last decade, Democrats complained — with a mix of indignation, frustration and envy — that Republicans and their allies were spending hundreds of millions of difficult-to-trace dollars to influence politics.

“Dark money” became a dirty word, as the left warned of the threat of corruption posed by corporations and billionaires that were spending unlimited sums through loosely regulated nonprofits, which did not disclose their donors’ identities.

Then came the 2020 election.

Spurred by opposition to then-President Trump, donors and operatives allied with the Democratic Party embraced dark money with fresh zeal, pulling even with and, by some measures, surpassing Republicans in 2020 spending, according to a New York Times analysis of tax filings and other data.

The analysis shows that 15 of the most politically active nonprofit organizations that generally align with the Democratic Party spent more than $1.5 billion in 2020 — compared to roughly $900 million spent by a comparable sample of 15 of the most politically active groups aligned with the G.O.P.

The findings reveal the growth and ascendancy of a shadow political infrastructure that is reshaping American politics, as megadonors to these nonprofits take advantage of loose disclosure laws to make multimillion-dollar outlays in total secrecy. Some good-government activists worry that the exploding role of undisclosed cash threatens to accelerate the erosion of trust in the country’s political system.

Democrats’ newfound success in harnessing this funding also exposes the stark tension between their efforts to win elections and their commitment to curtail secretive political spending by the superrich.

A single, cryptically named entity that has served as a clearinghouse of undisclosed cash for the left, the Sixteen Thirty Fund, received mystery donations as large as $50 million and disseminated grants to more than 200 groups, while spending a total of $410 million in 2020 — more than the Democratic National Committee itself.

But nonprofits do not abide by the same transparency rules or donation limits as parties or campaigns — though they can underwrite many similar activities: advertising, polling, research, voter registration and mobilization and legal fights over voting rules.

The scale of secret spending is such that, even as small donors have become a potent force in politics, undisclosed money dwarfed the 2020 campaign fund-raising of President Biden (who raised a record $1 billion) and Mr. Trump (who raised more than $810 million).

Headed into the midterm elections, Democrats are warning major donors not to give in to the financial complacency that often afflicts the party in power, while Republicans are rushing to level the dark-money playing field to take advantage of what is expected to be a favorable political climate in 2022.

At stake is not just control of Congress but also whether Republican donors will become more unified with Mr. Trump out of the White House. Two Republican secret-money groups focused on Congress said their combined fund-raising reached nearly $100 million in 2021 — far more than they raised in 2019.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/29/us/politics/democrats-dark-money-donors.html

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Jan 30, 2022 11:44:21   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
Justice101 wrote:
Hahaha, you are so off base. "What's good for the goose is good for the gander!"

For much of the last decade, Democrats complained — with a mix of indignation, frustration and envy — that Republicans and their allies were spending hundreds of millions of difficult-to-trace dollars to influence politics.

“Dark money” became a dirty word, as the left warned of the threat of corruption posed by corporations and billionaires that were spending unlimited sums through loosely regulated nonprofits, which did not disclose their donors’ identities.

Then came the 2020 election.

Spurred by opposition to then-President Trump, donors and operatives allied with the Democratic Party embraced dark money with fresh zeal, pulling even with and, by some measures, surpassing Republicans in 2020 spending, according to a New York Times analysis of tax filings and other data.

The analysis shows that 15 of the most politically active nonprofit organizations that generally align with the Democratic Party spent more than $1.5 billion in 2020 — compared to roughly $900 million spent by a comparable sample of 15 of the most politically active groups aligned with the G.O.P.

The findings reveal the growth and ascendancy of a shadow political infrastructure that is reshaping American politics, as megadonors to these nonprofits take advantage of loose disclosure laws to make multimillion-dollar outlays in total secrecy. Some good-government activists worry that the exploding role of undisclosed cash threatens to accelerate the erosion of trust in the country’s political system.

Democrats’ newfound success in harnessing this funding also exposes the stark tension between their efforts to win elections and their commitment to curtail secretive political spending by the superrich.

A single, cryptically named entity that has served as a clearinghouse of undisclosed cash for the left, the Sixteen Thirty Fund, received mystery donations as large as $50 million and disseminated grants to more than 200 groups, while spending a total of $410 million in 2020 — more than the Democratic National Committee itself.

But nonprofits do not abide by the same transparency rules or donation limits as parties or campaigns — though they can underwrite many similar activities: advertising, polling, research, voter registration and mobilization and legal fights over voting rules.

The scale of secret spending is such that, even as small donors have become a potent force in politics, undisclosed money dwarfed the 2020 campaign fund-raising of President Biden (who raised a record $1 billion) and Mr. Trump (who raised more than $810 million).

Headed into the midterm elections, Democrats are warning major donors not to give in to the financial complacency that often afflicts the party in power, while Republicans are rushing to level the dark-money playing field to take advantage of what is expected to be a favorable political climate in 2022.

At stake is not just control of Congress but also whether Republican donors will become more unified with Mr. Trump out of the White House. Two Republican secret-money groups focused on Congress said their combined fund-raising reached nearly $100 million in 2021 — far more than they raised in 2019.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/29/us/politics/democrats-dark-money-donors.html
Hahaha, you are so off base. "What's good for... (show quote)


I'll reply to both of you here.

Here is the link that proves that Democrats are willing to scuttle Citizens United. Its simple you want rid of it vote for Democrats.

Republicans created this mess and now they blame Democrats for the mess. https://www.majorityleader.gov/content/ten-years-after-citizens-united-house-democrats-call-senate-take-house-passed-government

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Jan 30, 2022 12:05:57   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
336Robin wrote:
I'll reply to both of you here.

Here is the link that proves that Democrats are willing to scuttle Citizens United. Its simple you want rid of it vote for Democrats.

Republicans created this mess and now they blame Democrats for the mess. https://www.majorityleader.gov/content/ten-years-after-citizens-united-house-democrats-call-senate-take-house-passed-government


Talking out of the side of their mouths while spending 1.5 Billl to get their party elected. Seen it before. Just because a politician says it, either side, doesn't mean s..t.

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Jan 30, 2022 12:16:57   #
Justice101
 
336Robin wrote:
I'll reply to both of you here.

Here is the link that proves that Democrats are willing to scuttle Citizens United. Its simple you want rid of it vote for Democrats.

Republicans created this mess and now they blame Democrats for the mess. https://www.majorityleader.gov/content/ten-years-after-citizens-united-house-democrats-call-senate-take-house-passed-government


Hidden in the Democrat's voting rights bill? Isn't that clever?

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Jan 30, 2022 12:42:46   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
microphor wrote:
Talking out of the side of their mouths while spending 1.5 Billl to get their party elected. Seen it before. Just because a politician says it, either side, doesn't mean s..t.


So that is they way you see it? You don't believe the when our bridges are literally falling down that the
infrastructure bill was for a real purpose?

I am sorry you believe that.

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