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An AR-15 killed 26 people in four minutes at Sandy Hook Elementary: is that what the Founding Fathers had in mind for the 2nd Amendment?
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Dec 19, 2021 17:54:31   #
American Vet
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Since 1990 the total number killed in school shootings is 176.

There are 80 million legal gun owners in the US, one out of five (or 16 million) carry a gun on a daily basis.
It's the wild west out there, folks, make no mistake, when the devil's curse on gun owners finally overwhelms them, there's gonna be a slaughter of innocents like you've never seen before.

Funny thing though, the homicide rate in the US is 4.9 per 100,000, which is far below the most violent countries.
For example, with a homicide rate at 61.8 per 100,000, El Salvador is numero uno.

Seems the most violent countries with the highest homicide rates are in Central and South America and in Africa. Honduras, Guatemala, Venezuela, Columbia, Brazil, Puerto Rico, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Panama, for example, all have homicide rates in the double digits, even Mexico, with a rate of 29 homicides per 100,000, is 6 times greater than in the US.

The notion that American gun owners only care about "holding on to their Gun" and do not care about the violence or how many "innocent children are victims" is nothing but a sanctimonious lie inspired by hate, a common emotional disturbance among Hoplophobes.
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Dec 19, 2021 21:01:48   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
RascalRiley wrote:


A grass roots peaceful revolution which will change America until the next next rebellion which will happen in a generation or two.
This revolution is happening right now and will eliminate any semblance of freedom for a majority of Americans.


You are right. Joe and the Cameltoe are doing their best to eliminate those freedoms.

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Dec 19, 2021 21:35:13   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
amadjuster wrote:
You are right. Joe and the Cameltoe are doing their best to eliminate those freedoms.


As a left leaning progressives I see a different cause. As I see it those on the right are asserting control over everyone.

Now for a conservative this makes perfect sense for the well-being of the Union but for a liberal it seems like tyranny.

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Dec 19, 2021 22:17:00   #
Rose42
 
RascalRiley wrote:
As a left leaning progressives I see a different cause. As I see it those on the right are asserting control over everyone.

Now for a conservative this makes perfect sense for the well-being of the Union but for a liberal it seems like tyranny.


They both want control. We are getting squeezed from both sides.

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Dec 19, 2021 22:31:45   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
RascalRiley wrote:
As a left leaning progressives I see a different cause. As I see it those on the right are asserting control over everyone.

Now for a conservative this makes perfect sense for the well-being of the Union but for a liberal it seems like tyranny.
You need to make a clear distinction between political parties and ideologies.
Republican and conservative are two different things, as are Democrat and liberal.
There are liberal Republicans and there are conservative Democrats.

However, Progressives are another matter altogether. Progressivism has infected politicians of all parties.

Conservatism has no place for tyranny, which is not the case for Progressivism.

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Dec 19, 2021 23:21:09   #
American Vet
 
RascalRiley wrote:
As a left leaning progressives I see a different cause. As I see it those on the right are asserting control over everyone.

Now for a conservative this makes perfect sense for the well-being of the Union but for a liberal it seems like tyranny.


If you see that, I suggest you get new glasses.

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Dec 20, 2021 07:25:59   #
kittibob
 
Hamilton had no idea or clue about the enormous gun violence.

Did you miss the Aaron Burr chapter?

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Dec 20, 2021 12:17:55   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
kittibob wrote:
Hamilton had no idea or clue about the enormous gun violence.

Did you miss the Aaron Burr chapter?


Burr was a better shot.

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Dec 20, 2021 12:18:29   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
RascalRiley wrote:
As a left leaning progressives I see a different cause. As I see it those on the right are asserting control over everyone.

Now for a conservative this makes perfect sense for the well-being of the Union but for a liberal it seems like tyranny.


As I sede it, this conservative just wants to be left alone.

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Dec 20, 2021 14:02:42   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
amadjuster wrote:
As I sede it, this conservative just wants to be left alone.


So does this liberal...

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Dec 20, 2021 14:04:46   #
Rose42
 
permafrost wrote:
So does this liberal...


I think thats how most of us feel.

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Dec 20, 2021 15:37:22   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kittibob wrote:
Hamilton had no idea or clue about the enormous gun violence.

Did you miss the Aaron Burr chapter?
Would you consider 8 years of war "enormous gun violence"?
Hamilton began as a captain of artillery in the Continental Army.
General Washington was so impressed with Hamilton's performance, he promoted him to Colonel and made him his personal Aide-de-Camp.
Hamilton served as Washington's right hand man throughout the war.
They fought the most powerful, most well trained and equipped army on earth and they WON.

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Dec 20, 2021 18:00:44   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
kittibob wrote:
Hamilton had no idea or clue about the enormous gun violence. Did you miss the Aaron Burr chapter?

I hate to bust your bubble but watching a Broadway musical named Hamilton doesn’t make you an expert on Hamilton and Burr. In fact, Lin-Manuel Miranda took great historical liberties with the script and portrayal of each person. The less than accurate script tends to lionize Hamilton and unfavorably depict Burr. Try reading (and learning) about both by reading their own writings and those of an honorable historian.

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Dec 20, 2021 19:53:04   #
martsiva
 
RascalRiley wrote:
As a left leaning progressives I see a different cause. As I see it those on the right are asserting control over everyone.

Now for a conservative this makes perfect sense for the well-being of the Union but for a liberal it seems like tyranny.


That is a joke - right? Who is trying to force Americans to take this experimental drug they call a 'vaccine? Democrats!! Who in New York is saying you can`t eat in a restaurant without a 'vaccine passport'?? Democrats!! Who is trying to defund the police?? Democrats!! Keep your bold face lies in Canada!!

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Dec 21, 2021 05:37:06   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
martsiva wrote:
That is a joke - right? Who is trying to force Americans to take this experimental drug they call a 'vaccine? Democrats!! Who in New York is saying you can`t eat in a restaurant without a 'vaccine passport'?? Democrats!! Who is trying to defund the police?? Democrats!! Keep your bold face lies in Canada!!


Who is trying to force their distorted version of Christianity on everyone else?

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