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An AR-15 k**led 26 people in four minutes at Sandy Hook Elementary: is that what the Founding Fathers had in mind for the 2nd Amendment?
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Dec 17, 2021 19:47:04   #
rumitoid
 
As visionary as they were in creating "the great experiment" called the Republic of America, could they have possibly seen 18 of the deadliest mass shootings in modern US history, or the almost weekly mass gun violence and daily homcides? Muskets were one shot. (Yes, there were a few developments of weapons capable of firing more than a single round at the time but they were not mainstream.)

Are they to be blamed for a lack foresight in the future capacity of firearms to k**l many? Maybe we can go back and give them this list to contemplate when they wrote "A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." (That word "infringed" is the problem. All the other Amendments, including the most important 1st Amendment, have had various needed federal, call it, infringements.)

Let them read this, all non-combatants:
Las Vegas, October 1, 2017 — 59 dead, more than 850 wounded

Orlando, June 12, 2016 — 50 dead, 53 wounded

Virginia Tech University, April 16, 2007 — 32 dead, 17 wounded

Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 5, 2017 — 26 dead, 20 wounded

Sandy Hook Elementary School, December 14, 2012 — 26 dead, two wounded, all mostly young children

K**leen, Texas, October 16, 1991 — 23 dead, 27 wounded

San Ysidro, California, July 18, 1984 — 20 dead, 16 wounded

Parkland, Florida, February 14, 2018 — 17 dead, 17 wounded


El Paso, August 3, 2019 – 22 dead, 24 wounded

University of Texas-Austin, August 1, 1966 — 15 dead, 31 wounded

San Bernardino, California, December 2, 2015 — 14 dead, 22 wounded

Edmond, Oklahoma, August 20, 1986 — 14 dead, 7 wounded

Okay, I think that is more than enough. I feel if they had this list that the 2nd Amendment would be far more restrictive, heavily infringed upon out of basic decency and the common good. But the Right thinks there is nothing to do about the epidemic violence of guns. On the Right they call it "the price of freedom." (That's our children they are talking about.)

The States have gun control laws--which is the best argument against their do-nothing attitude. Strict here and loose there is not control; it is chaos and ridiculous. Federal gun controls, universal for the nation, will help. Nothing we do will end the violence, yet we need to do something soon to at least lessen it. Please think hard about it. Merry Christmas.

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Dec 17, 2021 19:53:18   #
Barbancon
 
Do you know what false f**gs are and why they are staged?

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Dec 17, 2021 20:13:46   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Barbancon wrote:
Do you know what false f**gs are and why they are staged?

Apparently you don't.

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Dec 17, 2021 20:24:11   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
An AR-15 k**led 26 people in four minutes at Sandy Hook Elementary: is that what the Founding Fathers had in mind for the 2nd Amendment?
No, it isn't.

Alexander Hamilton: FEDERALIST No. 29

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Dec 17, 2021 20:43:58   #
Barbancon
 
Gun crime has always been illegal. A better question is why democrats are always bailing out, releasing, and importing violent criminals.

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Dec 17, 2021 20:48:08   #
Barbancon
 
How does an AR-15 k**l people? All by itself? Democrats love this misdirection, as if inanimate objects are the problem. Most gun crimes are committed by democrats. Democrats with guns are the problem.

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Dec 17, 2021 20:58:40   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
As visionary as they were in creating "the great experiment" called the Republic of America, could they have possibly seen 18 of the deadliest mass shootings in modern US history, or the almost weekly mass gun violence and daily homcides? Muskets were one shot. (Yes, there were a few developments of weapons capable of firing more than a single round at the time but they were not mainstream.)

Are they to be blamed for a lack foresight in the future capacity of firearms to k**l many? Maybe we can go back and give them this list to contemplate when they wrote "A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." (That word "infringed" is the problem. All the other Amendments, including the most important 1st Amendment, have had various needed federal, call it, infringements.)

Let them read this, all non-combatants:
Las Vegas, October 1, 2017 — 59 dead, more than 850 wounded

Orlando, June 12, 2016 — 50 dead, 53 wounded

Virginia Tech University, April 16, 2007 — 32 dead, 17 wounded

Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 5, 2017 — 26 dead, 20 wounded

Sandy Hook Elementary School, December 14, 2012 — 26 dead, two wounded, all mostly young children

K**leen, Texas, October 16, 1991 — 23 dead, 27 wounded

San Ysidro, California, July 18, 1984 — 20 dead, 16 wounded

Parkland, Florida, February 14, 2018 — 17 dead, 17 wounded


El Paso, August 3, 2019 – 22 dead, 24 wounded

University of Texas-Austin, August 1, 1966 — 15 dead, 31 wounded

San Bernardino, California, December 2, 2015 — 14 dead, 22 wounded

Edmond, Oklahoma, August 20, 1986 — 14 dead, 7 wounded

Okay, I think that is more than enough. I feel if they had this list that the 2nd Amendment would be far more restrictive, heavily infringed upon out of basic decency and the common good. But the Right thinks there is nothing to do about the epidemic violence of guns. On the Right they call it "the price of freedom." (That's our children they are talking about.)

The States have gun control laws--which is the best argument against their do-nothing attitude. Strict here and loose there is not control; it is chaos and ridiculous. Federal gun controls, universal for the nation, will help. Nothing we do will end the violence, yet we need to do something soon to at least lessen it. Please think hard about it. Merry Christmas.
As visionary as they were in creating "the gr... (show quote)


Federal laws against guns will work as well as federal laws did against booze doing prohibition.

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Dec 17, 2021 21:55:37   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
rumitoid wrote:
As visionary as they were in creating "the great experiment" called the Republic of America, could they have possibly seen 18 of the deadliest mass shootings in modern US history, or the almost weekly mass gun violence and daily homcides? Muskets were one shot. (Yes, there were a few developments of weapons capable of firing more than a single round at the time but they were not mainstream.)

Are they to be blamed for a lack foresight in the future capacity of firearms to k**l many? Maybe we can go back and give them this list to contemplate when they wrote "A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." (That word "infringed" is the problem. All the other Amendments, including the most important 1st Amendment, have had various needed federal, call it, infringements.)

Let them read this, all non-combatants:
Las Vegas, October 1, 2017 — 59 dead, more than 850 wounded

Orlando, June 12, 2016 — 50 dead, 53 wounded

Virginia Tech University, April 16, 2007 — 32 dead, 17 wounded

Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 5, 2017 — 26 dead, 20 wounded

Sandy Hook Elementary School, December 14, 2012 — 26 dead, two wounded, all mostly young children

K**leen, Texas, October 16, 1991 — 23 dead, 27 wounded

San Ysidro, California, July 18, 1984 — 20 dead, 16 wounded

Parkland, Florida, February 14, 2018 — 17 dead, 17 wounded


El Paso, August 3, 2019 – 22 dead, 24 wounded

University of Texas-Austin, August 1, 1966 — 15 dead, 31 wounded

San Bernardino, California, December 2, 2015 — 14 dead, 22 wounded

Edmond, Oklahoma, August 20, 1986 — 14 dead, 7 wounded

Okay, I think that is more than enough. I feel if they had this list that the 2nd Amendment would be far more restrictive, heavily infringed upon out of basic decency and the common good. But the Right thinks there is nothing to do about the epidemic violence of guns. On the Right they call it "the price of freedom." (That's our children they are talking about.)

The States have gun control laws--which is the best argument against their do-nothing attitude. Strict here and loose there is not control; it is chaos and ridiculous. Federal gun controls, universal for the nation, will help. Nothing we do will end the violence, yet we need to do something soon to at least lessen it. Please think hard about it. Merry Christmas.
As visionary as they were in creating "the gr... (show quote)

If you don't like the second amendment, move to China, they don't have one!

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Dec 17, 2021 22:13:31   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
rumitoid wrote:
As visionary as they were in creating "the great experiment" called the Republic of America, could they have possibly seen 18 of the deadliest mass shootings in modern US history, or the almost weekly mass gun violence and daily homcides? Muskets were one shot. (Yes, there were a few developments of weapons capable of firing more than a single round at the time but they were not mainstream.)

Are they to be blamed for a lack foresight in the future capacity of firearms to k**l many? Maybe we can go back and give them this list to contemplate when they wrote "A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." (That word "infringed" is the problem. All the other Amendments, including the most important 1st Amendment, have had various needed federal, call it, infringements.)

Let them read this, all non-combatants:
Las Vegas, October 1, 2017 — 59 dead, more than 850 wounded

Orlando, June 12, 2016 — 50 dead, 53 wounded

Virginia Tech University, April 16, 2007 — 32 dead, 17 wounded

Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 5, 2017 — 26 dead, 20 wounded

Sandy Hook Elementary School, December 14, 2012 — 26 dead, two wounded, all mostly young children

K**leen, Texas, October 16, 1991 — 23 dead, 27 wounded

San Ysidro, California, July 18, 1984 — 20 dead, 16 wounded

Parkland, Florida, February 14, 2018 — 17 dead, 17 wounded


El Paso, August 3, 2019 – 22 dead, 24 wounded

University of Texas-Austin, August 1, 1966 — 15 dead, 31 wounded

San Bernardino, California, December 2, 2015 — 14 dead, 22 wounded

Edmond, Oklahoma, August 20, 1986 — 14 dead, 7 wounded

Okay, I think that is more than enough. I feel if they had this list that the 2nd Amendment would be far more restrictive, heavily infringed upon out of basic decency and the common good. But the Right thinks there is nothing to do about the epidemic violence of guns. On the Right they call it "the price of freedom." (That's our children they are talking about.)

The States have gun control laws--which is the best argument against their do-nothing attitude. Strict here and loose there is not control; it is chaos and ridiculous. Federal gun controls, universal for the nation, will help. Nothing we do will end the violence, yet we need to do something soon to at least lessen it. Please think hard about it. Merry Christmas.
As visionary as they were in creating "the gr... (show quote)

How fast is your computer sending this post? Is that what the founders had in mind for freedom of speech? Next time you want to voice your opinion use a quill, parchment and put your message on a horse and send it to me.

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Dec 17, 2021 23:11:36   #
rumitoid
 
Barbancon wrote:
Do you know what false f**gs are and why they are staged?


All those verified deaths are false f**gs? For what? Or did I miss your point?

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Dec 17, 2021 23:17:06   #
rumitoid
 
Blade_Runner wrote:


There is a disconnect by posting an article I have read a few times about the Federalists Paper. Hamilton had no idea or clue about the enormous gun violence. Who cares what he thinks on the topic; his thoughts are useless today. May as well read a treatise on earth being the center of the solar system. Merry Christmas.

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Dec 17, 2021 23:18:20   #
rumitoid
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Federal laws against guns will work as well as federal laws did against booze doing prohibition.


Okay, so do nothing?

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Dec 17, 2021 23:21:06   #
rumitoid
 
Barbancon wrote:
How does an AR-15 k**l people? All by itself? Democrats love this misdirection, as if inanimate objects are the problem. Most gun crimes are committed by democrats. Democrats with guns are the problem.


The misdirection is yours, and the Right's. Assault rifles to the general public need to be banned; their availability to the public is an assault on humanity.

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Dec 17, 2021 23:22:40   #
rumitoid
 
JR-57 wrote:
How fast is your computer sending this post? Is that what the founders had in mind for freedom of speech? Next time you want to voice your opinion use a quill, parchment and put your message on a horse and send it to me.


Okay. But what on earth are you talking about?

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Dec 18, 2021 00:24:43   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
rumitoid wrote:
Okay. But what on earth are you talking about?


Technological advances don't negate rights...

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