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An AR-15 killed 26 people in four minutes at Sandy Hook Elementary: is that what the Founding Fathers had in mind for the 2nd Amendment?
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Dec 18, 2021 09:30:49   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
guzzimaestro wrote:
Yep. Only blue state gun laws will keep innocent people unarmed



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Dec 18, 2021 10:05:48   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
rumitoid wrote:
All those verified deaths are false flags? For what? Or did I miss your point?


The point is that all these shootings occurred in places where there was no one who could shoot back. In a situation like that a good rifleman could use a bolt or lever action rifle and inflict as many casualties. What you are missing is that every year, more people are killed with knives than with semi auto rifles. ALL semis combined, not just the AR-15s that have your panties all wadded up. Every year, more people are beaten to death with clubs of some sort than are killed with ALL semis combined, not just the AR-15. Finally, every year more people are murdered with bare hands than are killed with your woolly booger AR-15s.

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Dec 18, 2021 10:07:27   #
1alpha7
 
rumitoid wrote:
Okay. But what on earth are you talking about?


Why did he compare today's weapons & online computer speech/texting with those of our ancestors? OR...
What is the difference between communication & weapons of today & and those used hundreds of years ago?
Speed!
So, using your cognitive thinking, if semi-automatic rifles should be banned then the internet should be banned!
Both involve SPEED.

You have failed this mental cognitive test!

To help you understand the last sentence: Cognitive testing checks for problems with cognition. Cognition is a combination of processes in your brain that's involved in almost every aspect of your life. It includes thinking, memory, language, judgment, and 'the ability to learn new things'.

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Dec 18, 2021 11:29:18   #
agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa
 
School shootings ? Where were the secutity people these schools refused ? There are security officers in Cigar stores to city hall ! We can't have armed security people in schools because it (MIGHT) alarm the students ?

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Dec 18, 2021 12:31:28   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
rumitoid wrote:
As visionary as they were in creating "the great experiment" called the Republic of America, could they have possibly seen 18 of the deadliest mass shootings in modern US history, or the almost weekly mass gun violence and daily homcides? Muskets were one shot. (Yes, there were a few developments of weapons capable of firing more than a single round at the time but they were not mainstream.)

Are they to be blamed for a lack foresight in the future capacity of firearms to kill many? Maybe we can go back and give them this list to contemplate when they wrote "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." (That word "infringed" is the problem. All the other Amendments, including the most important 1st Amendment, have had various needed federal, call it, infringements.)

Let them read this, all non-combatants:
Las Vegas, October 1, 2017 — 59 dead, more than 850 wounded

Orlando, June 12, 2016 — 50 dead, 53 wounded

Virginia Tech University, April 16, 2007 — 32 dead, 17 wounded

Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 5, 2017 — 26 dead, 20 wounded

Sandy Hook Elementary School, December 14, 2012 — 26 dead, two wounded, all mostly young children

Killeen, Texas, October 16, 1991 — 23 dead, 27 wounded

San Ysidro, California, July 18, 1984 — 20 dead, 16 wounded

Parkland, Florida, February 14, 2018 — 17 dead, 17 wounded


El Paso, August 3, 2019 – 22 dead, 24 wounded

University of Texas-Austin, August 1, 1966 — 15 dead, 31 wounded

San Bernardino, California, December 2, 2015 — 14 dead, 22 wounded

Edmond, Oklahoma, August 20, 1986 — 14 dead, 7 wounded

Okay, I think that is more than enough. I feel if they had this list that the 2nd Amendment would be far more restrictive, heavily infringed upon out of basic decency and the common good. But the Right thinks there is nothing to do about the epidemic violence of guns. On the Right they call it "the price of freedom." (That's our children they are talking about.)

The States have gun control laws--which is the best argument against their do-nothing attitude. Strict here and loose there is not control; it is chaos and ridiculous. Federal gun controls, universal for the nation, will help. Nothing we do will end the violence, yet we need to do something soon to at least lessen it. Please think hard about it. Merry Christmas.
As visionary as they were in creating "the gr... (show quote)


Don't forget...{ Mr. Hemmorhoid}....that gun, was utilized, by a demented Liberal! Unlike Alec Baldwin....this gun, was "triggered"...by a Demoncrat human! Guns...don;t kill people"....People kill people!...{ Get that skippy?}

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Dec 18, 2021 13:04:02   #
guzzimaestro
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
Don't forget...{ Mr. Hemmorhoid}....that gun, was utilized, by a demented Liberal! Unlike Alec Baldwin....this gun, was "triggered"...by a Demoncrat human! Guns...don;t kill people"....People kill people!...{ Get that skippy?}


He never will

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Dec 18, 2021 13:07:34   #
bill22222002
 
same weapons except semi-auto that compare to founding fathers people had muskets and so did military. I will give up all my guns except for muzzleloaders if we go back to what the founding fathers wanted. REMEMBER women couldnt vote and blacks were 3 fifths of a person and SLAVES. THATS WHAT FOUNDING FATHERS WANTED . SO GIVE ME A BREAK ALL YOU ANTI-GUN MORONS. ASK ALEC BALDWIN . HE CAN MAKE GUNS GO OFF BY THEMSELVeS . still waiting for mine to do that. I could put my rifle in woods and stay in warm house and have it shoot my deer.

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Dec 18, 2021 13:17:02   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
rumitoid wrote:
As visionary as they were in creating "the great experiment" called the Republic of America, could they have possibly seen 18 of the deadliest mass shootings in modern US history, or the almost weekly mass gun violence and daily homcides? Muskets were one shot. (Yes, there were a few developments of weapons capable of firing more than a single round at the time but they were not mainstream.)

Are they to be blamed for a lack foresight in the future capacity of firearms to kill many? Maybe we can go back and give them this list to contemplate when they wrote "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." (That word "infringed" is the problem. All the other Amendments, including the most important 1st Amendment, have had various needed federal, call it, infringements.)

Let them read this, all non-combatants:
Las Vegas, October 1, 2017 — 59 dead, more than 850 wounded

Orlando, June 12, 2016 — 50 dead, 53 wounded

Virginia Tech University, April 16, 2007 — 32 dead, 17 wounded

Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 5, 2017 — 26 dead, 20 wounded

Sandy Hook Elementary School, December 14, 2012 — 26 dead, two wounded, all mostly young children

Killeen, Texas, October 16, 1991 — 23 dead, 27 wounded

San Ysidro, California, July 18, 1984 — 20 dead, 16 wounded

Parkland, Florida, February 14, 2018 — 17 dead, 17 wounded


El Paso, August 3, 2019 – 22 dead, 24 wounded

University of Texas-Austin, August 1, 1966 — 15 dead, 31 wounded

San Bernardino, California, December 2, 2015 — 14 dead, 22 wounded

Edmond, Oklahoma, August 20, 1986 — 14 dead, 7 wounded

Okay, I think that is more than enough. I feel if they had this list that the 2nd Amendment would be far more restrictive, heavily infringed upon out of basic decency and the common good. But the Right thinks there is nothing to do about the epidemic violence of guns. On the Right they call it "the price of freedom." (That's our children they are talking about.)

The States have gun control laws--which is the best argument against their do-nothing attitude. Strict here and loose there is not control; it is chaos and ridiculous. Federal gun controls, universal for the nation, will help. Nothing we do will end the violence, yet we need to do something soon to at least lessen it. Please think hard about it. Merry Christmas.
As visionary as they were in creating "the gr... (show quote)


On August 1, 1966, Charles Whitman shot and killed 16 and wounded 31 using a Remington 700 ADL BOLT ACTION rifle in 6mm Remington. That rifle has a capacity of 4 rounds in the internal magazine and 1 in the chamber. It wasn't an "evil" AR-15 with a big ol' 30 round magazine. Whitman was in the University of Texas Tower at the time. He was also armed with a machete.

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Dec 18, 2021 13:28:47   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
amadjuster wrote:
On August 1, 1966, Charles Whitman shot and killed 16 and wounded 31 using a Remington 700 ADL BOLT ACTION rifle in 6mm Remington. That rifle has a capacity of 4 rounds in the internal magazine and 1 in the chamber. It wasn't an "evil" AR-15 with a big ol' 30 round magazine. Whitman was in the University of Texas Tower at the time. He was also armed with a machete.

Was it the machete the salami slicing model or was it the assault model?

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Dec 18, 2021 13:31:04   #
grandaddyw Loc: FLORIDA
 
Where you are wrong is that the gun did not kill anybody. The person who pulled the trigger did the killing.So you want to take the right to have a gun from all people.

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Dec 18, 2021 13:39:14   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
JR-57 wrote:
Was the machete the salami slicing model or was it the assault model?


It might have been designed by Stoner.

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Dec 18, 2021 13:43:19   #
Big dog
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
How did the “gun” kill the people, not the lunatic weilding it, a luniric that was on pacotropic drugs since early adolescence? When are they going to blame the drug companies and doctors?


Ignore the hemorrhoid blathering of these dementiacrats.

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Dec 18, 2021 13:58:43   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Big dog wrote:
Ignore the hemorrhoid blathering of these dementiacrats.


Fauci killed more with his voice then all the "mass murderers " in history.

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Dec 18, 2021 14:06:29   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Fauci killed more with his voice then all the "mass murderers " in history.


HAHAHAHA!!

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Dec 18, 2021 14:06:56   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Federal laws against guns will work as well as federal laws did against booze doing prohibition.


They work well in every first world country.

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