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Why the "VAXXED" are so beligerent against the anti-vax narrative
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Nov 3, 2021 03:47:07   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
lindajoy wrote:
You keep telling us it’s well-established science yet failed to produce anything for your well-established science. You do realize anything you can throw up can be countered by others deposed well-established science that says the opposite right?

There are many who have not had Covid and have not been infected by Covid yet have their own immunity that has kept them from getting it. Did you not read my post addressing the number of people in our country to the number of those who were infected. Quite a bit of difference in those numbers don’t you think? Or how about those who are simply carriers who have not gotten infected or infected others or do you even know if that’s a part of the equation, nope we sure don’t…

You keep throwing up all these numbers as if they are valid. How can you even say that when there was no consistency state or country wide on how they were reported, calculated, confirmed or not confirmed from the inception to this present day. You also failed to realize the number of people in the United States compared to the world itself. Of course we’re going to have different numbers I won’t say higher or lower I just acknowledge that we will have different numbers because of the populace.
You keep telling us it’s well-established science ... (show quote)


Sometimes, hell most of the time, you never have 100% accurate data on anything. So you use the best data available. Just about every bit of data I have included in my posts about Covid here come from either the CDC website, the Mayo Clinic Covid Tracker website, or the Johns Hopkins Covid Tracker website. Very easy Google searches but if you can't find them I'm happy to help. But there is a ton of other data on these sites that you may find very informative, so spend some time and you will be rewarded.

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Nov 3, 2021 03:55:10   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
To the ms:

You asked me to keep you all informed how I was doing after shot and booster that I chose to get. I am just fine and so are my friends who, like me, chose to be "vaxxed". In fact we just had covid tests 3 days ago - all are negative for covid. Any stats on this?


I have 22 family members that have all had at least two doses, and most have already had the booster, and all are fine. I do have one friend who got the shot and was pretty sick for three weeks. But apparently his issue was he got Covid, had a very rough time with it, and then got his first shot about 8 weeks later and a month after he had finally started feeling better. It was in the early months of vaccinations and they did not realize that you should wait at least 3 months to get a vaccine after having the disease. But he is doing just fine now as well. His wife also got covid early and did not get vaccinated because she has been going through some serious long haul crap. Lung issues, circulatory issues, weakness, trouble breathing when doing anything close to exercise. She is in her early 50s and also a wildland firefighter. She has been unable to do much of her job since she got Covid in November of 2020.

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Nov 3, 2021 04:03:04   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
martsiva wrote:
Your whole comment is moot since Dr. Malone, the inventor of MRNA technology has warned that this vaccine is dangerous because of the spike protein it contains!! You need to do more research into what you are promoting!!


Stop being a fool. Do your own research on Dr. Malone, he certainly was not "the inventor" of mRNA, although he did contribute to the effort. But that was a small part of the effort overall and his contributions were 30+ years ago. A lot was developed since then.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/the-development-of-mrna-vaccines-was-a-collaborative-effort-robert-malone-contributed-to-their-development-but-he-is-not-their-inventor/

https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/3aa2eefd

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

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Nov 3, 2021 09:09:20   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Sometimes, hell most of the time, you never have 100% accurate data on anything. So you use the best data available. Just about every bit of data I have included in my posts about Covid here come from either the CDC website, the Mayo Clinic Covid Tracker website, or the Johns Hopkins Covid Tracker website. Very easy Google searches but if you can't find them I'm happy to help. But there is a ton of other data on these sites that you may find very informative, so spend some time and you will be rewarded.
Sometimes, hell most of the time, you never have 1... (show quote)


You are blowing smoke, the post to which you refer to here I didn’t cite any source but gave you the reality of what we have all read from any number of sources. I too use CDC, the WHO, Hopkins, World data etc. but it’s irrelevant because I wasn’t talking about any of those or cited any of those in the post you are now replying to, answer the questions posed in it rather than trying to deflect or produce your scientific source as I’ve asked you for repeatedly….Scientific research being different than “news article summations” filled with propaganda…

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Nov 3, 2021 12:31:33   #
debeda
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
You know I agree with you fully here. If we had our act together we would have a process where people who have gotten Covid and beat it should be able to be tested for antibody strength. Have a scale of expected resistance to the virus based upon your antibody score, and anyone who maintains the baseline does not need to get vaccinated if in a position requiring vaccinations. Maybe you have to get tested monthly to see where you are. We would gain a hell of a lot of knowledge on immunity from the data too.
You know I agree with you fully here. If we had o... (show quote)


Yes.

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Nov 3, 2021 12:42:19   #
Antimarxist21
 
The Ms. wrote:
Pleased to hear!!!! Thank You for update. I am concerned and wish you well! Dragon Blessings 🐲


Thanks!

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Nov 3, 2021 20:52:13   #
martsiva
 
permafrost wrote:
You need to read more.. not just the right wing alt.. media...


My comment was meant for someone else! Sorry! BUT since when is ABC News right wing??

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Nov 4, 2021 15:41:32   #
Hug
 
PeterS wrote:
Because you are taking a political position when the nation is facing a medical and economic crisis. For people who are supposed to be patriotic and true Americans that's a completely chickenshit position for you to take. But the positive is that most of those in the hospital and those who are dying are anti-vaxxers so this is a prime example of Karma biting them squarely on the ass. Happy days unless you are an anti-vaxxer who contracted Covid, ends up in the hospital, and wound up dying from Covid. That sucks for you but luckily for liberals that's one less conservative voter for our upcoming elections! Yippie!!!
Because you are taking a political position when t... (show quote)


Dollars to Doughnuts that a lot more on the left are dying than on the right.

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Nov 4, 2021 15:51:13   #
debeda
 
Hug wrote:
Dollars to Doughnuts that a lot more on the left are dying than on the right.


Probably true👍

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Nov 4, 2021 16:25:59   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Hug wrote:
Dollars to Doughnuts that a lot more on the left are dying than on the right.


And why would you ever say that?? the right made the vaccination a political issue and in backing their position they sit around and do nothing to avoid infection

I am a bit POd about this for the last week or more.. My grand daughter, her feancee and her little girl are all sick. the adults with the covid, hopefully the little gal just sick..

getting the vaccine is so simple, easy and quick.. I pains more than I can ever express when people refuse to get vaccinated... and does include my GD and her Partner.. along with everyone else..

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Nov 4, 2021 17:12:31   #
The Ms.
 
permafrost wrote:
And why would you ever say that?? the right made the vaccination a political issue and in backing their position they sit around and do nothing to avoid infection

I am a bit POd about this for the last week or more.. My grand daughter, her feancee and her little girl are all sick. the adults with the covid, hopefully the little gal just sick..

getting the vaccine is so simple, easy and quick.. I pains more than I can ever express when people refuse to get vaccinated... and does include my GD and her Partner.. along with everyone else..
And why would you ever say that?? the right made ... (show quote)


Wishing them a speedy and full recovery!

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Nov 4, 2021 18:26:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
The Ms. wrote:
Wishing them a speedy and full recovery!


Thank you very much.. while I worry a lot, both of them are very fit and healthy... the little one shall be OK...

By the way.. the partner is a stead fast republican/trumper.... but never the less is a really nice guy.. I like him a lot and he is one of the best young men I have met in many many years....

We do not talk politics.. he is too considerate for that.. LOL

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Nov 4, 2021 20:09:20   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
permafrost wrote:
And why would you ever say that?? the right made the vaccination a political issue and in backing their position they sit around and do nothing to avoid infection

I am a bit POd about this for the last week or more.. My grand daughter, her feancee and her little girl are all sick. the adults with the covid, hopefully the little gal just sick..

getting the vaccine is so simple, easy and quick.. I pains more than I can ever express when people refuse to get vaccinated... and does include my GD and her Partner.. along with everyone else..
And why would you ever say that?? the right made ... (show quote)


While we may disagree on some of the issues here I wish your family well and a quick recovery… Prayers for them and you enduring the worry of such…

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Nov 4, 2021 20:19:43   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
And why would you ever say that?? the right made the vaccination a political issue and in backing their position they sit around and do nothing to avoid infection

I am a bit POd about this for the last week or more.. My grand daughter, her feancee and her little girl are all sick. the adults with the covid, hopefully the little gal just sick..

getting the vaccine is so simple, easy and quick.. I pains more than I can ever express when people refuse to get vaccinated... and does include my GD and her Partner.. along with everyone else..
And why would you ever say that?? the right made ... (show quote)


And before covid, no body ever got sick. Like coughs. No one coughed before covid. No one ever had a fever. Pneumonia was just a myth, as was flu, heart disease, you name it.

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Nov 4, 2021 21:18:52   #
The Ms.
 
permafrost wrote:
Thank you very much.. while I worry a lot, both of them are very fit and healthy... the little one shall be OK...

By the way.. the partner is a stead fast republican/trumper.... but never the less is a really nice guy.. I like him a lot and he is one of the best young men I have met in many many years....

We do not talk politics.. he is too considerate for that.. LOL


Great , so you do see….some of us are good people!

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