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Nov 2, 2021 18:02:32   #
debeda
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
F***i didn't get along with Trump, which is why Biden loves him so much- just a thought.


You're probably right about that!

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Nov 2, 2021 18:05:57   #
Antimarxist21
 
debeda wrote:
And that's the point, Rose. We are in that segment of the population that supports people making their own choices. Then there's that other segment of the population that insists everyone must accept THEIR choices, or sit down and shut up. Getting REAL tired of the "democrat" autocrats


I'm on your side, don't like these mandates. Free choice rules. Unfortunately, I live in NYC with c*******t diblasio doing his best to mandate these shots, not v*****es, but shots.

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Nov 2, 2021 18:11:40   #
debeda
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
I'm on your side, don't like these mandates. Free choice rules. Unfortunately, I live in NYC with c*******t diblasio doing his best to mandate these shots, not v*****es, but shots.


I'm with you. These are NOT "v*****es". They are flu shots, or something like them. I'm sorry you live in NYC. I'm in Chicago, Mayor Beetlejuice isn't having much luck here. People have just decided to leave their jobs, and most likely sue. A Cook County court put a temporary injunction against her police mandates. I think the s#÷t will really hit the fan with the child mandates. At least 70% of parents are too smart for that, at least I hope so.

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Nov 2, 2021 18:13:20   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
ACP45 wrote:
Dr. Zelenko begins the conversation explaining we are living through a global bio weapon attack, the people have the cure to fight it. But this attack was well coordinated and the world elite were in on it. Their main goal is depopulation and control.

Here is one "Key Point" for you to think about.

19:34 in the video:
"there is a global psychosis going on. People are no longer able to think rationally or analytical thought, and do things emotionally to relieve their pain. That's why they gravitate to such things as the v*****e. Even intelligent people, without thinking through it. Because they don't want to live in that fear state anymore. So they believe that by taking this v*****e, it will reduce their fear, and allow them to re-integrate into society. What happens if you challenge their narrative, they become belligerent. Why, because if you challenge their narrative, you bring them back into their fear state they don't want to be in.

This is psychological warfare. Anyone who has studied, can see that the use of fear, and isolation over a period of 6 months, causes a psychological decompensation in the person, and they become completely gullible, and you can manipulate them to do wh**ever you want."

https://rumble.com/vogp3p-dr.-zelenko-we-are-living-through-a-global-bio-weapon-attack-people-have-th.html
Dr. Zelenko begins the conversation explaining we ... (show quote)


It was, indeed, a bioweapon attack and it created great fear, the goal being to shut down the economy and help democrats win in 2020, yet thy still had to c***t. Even now, they keep the fear alive in the hopes that it will help their cause but they have miscalculated. The v*****es aren't working, variants are cropping up and Biden don't get to be the C***d savior he and the democrats envisioned. China knew it so well that a few months ago they actually thought we were about to nuke their butts in retaliation. China was just as desperate and the democrats to get rid of Trump.

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Nov 2, 2021 18:19:00   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Parky60 wrote:
And if it's the great freaking success all you lefties claim it is how come you're not bowing down to him like you do Fauxi?

Geez you're dumb!


Geez, you ask silly questions.

Get a life perhaps.

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Nov 2, 2021 19:44:12   #
martsiva
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Do you have any understanding at all about v*****es? M**A v*****e technology was initially started in the 1960s, it took decades of study to get the process down, but it has been used for over a decade in a number of other v*****e developments including for influenza, zika, ebola and yes, even rabies. It has been studied on humans for over a decade before C***d even become known. And if you don't trust this recent technology, just go get a J and J shot, it uses the exact same technology that every v*****e you have previously had in your life used.

And by the way there are few if any v*****es that work 100% of the time on 100% of people. This v*****e does not expose your system to "weak variants of the v***s". It instead teaches your i****e s****m to readily identify the C***d v***s and attack it. The v*****e itself dies and is removed from your body within a few days of your injection. It was never thought it would stop all C***d, but it has done a pretty good job of minimizing its effects in the majority of those who have had it and stopped millions from getting infected in the first place.

You can all be chicken sh!t if you want and you can believe what you want, but you have no right to spread false claims that others could believe and lead to their early death. And by the way, anyone who does not get v******ted is pretty much assured they will get C***d sometime in the next year or two! Unless you hide away from society indefinitely.

So lets talk some real numbers here just to put things in perspective:

420 million: Number of v*****e shots given in the USA so far

1.6 Billion: Number of shots given in the world to date

97%: The percentage of adults over age 65 in the USA that have received at least one dose of the v*****e.

85%: Percentage of adults over age 65 in the USA that are fully v******ted

75%: Percent of all adults in the USA with at least one shot

64%: Percent of all adults in the USA that are fully v******ted

11 times: You are 11 times more likely to die from C***d right now in the USA if you are unv******ted

12 times: You are 12 times more likely to be hospitalized if you get C***d right now in the USA and are unv******ted

58%: Percent of the USA population that is fully v******ted

67%: Percent of the USA population that has had at least one shot

221 million: Number of Americans with at least one dose of the V*****e

191 Million: Number of Americans fully v******ted

Tells a pretty good story, don't you think. You are in the ignorant minority, so please do wh**ever you can to help us reach herd immunity so we can get to wh**ever the new "normal" will be sooner rather than later. If you are afraid of the m**A v*****es, get the old style J&J, or go out and get c***d, get through it and join the herd. The American herd right now is 221 million strong just from v******tions, and a lot stronger from all those who have gotten the v***s and recovered. So one or the other, your choice. Just get er done!
Do you have any understanding at all about v*****e... (show quote)


Your whole comment is moot since Dr. Malone, the inventor of M**A technology has warned that this v*****e is dangerous because of the spike protein it contains!! You need to do more research into what you are promoting!!

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Nov 2, 2021 19:48:34   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Geez, you ask silly questions.

Get a life perhaps.

Why is it silly slick? You lefties claim the v*****es are so great and then you say Trump developed it. You should be kissing his ass like you do Biden's.

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Nov 2, 2021 19:54:11   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
martsiva wrote:
Your whole comment is moot since Dr. Malone, the inventor of M**A technology has warned that this v*****e is dangerous because of the spike protein it contains!! You need to do more research into what you are promoting!!


You need to read more.. not just the right wing alt.. media...

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Nov 2, 2021 20:16:06   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
martsiva wrote:
Your whole comment is moot since Dr. Malone, the inventor of M**A technology has warned that this v*****e is dangerous because of the spike protein it contains!! You need to do more research into what you are promoting!!




marty, you may want to read this, it is a bit long. Looks at malone from several angles.. gives him a lot of credit for the work he did, but points out that hundreds were involved in making the v*****e possible..
Overall , I think you will enjoy it..


https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-v*****e-inventor-v*****e-skeptic/619734/

Why is the self-described inventor of the m**A v*****es working so hard to undermine them?

The abridged version is that when Malone was a graduate student in biology in the late 1980s at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies, he injected genetic material—DNA and RNA—into the cells of mice in hopes of creating a new kind of v*****e. He was the first author on a 1989 paper demonstrating how RNA could be delivered into cells using lipids, which are basically tiny globules of fat, and a co-author on a 1990 Science paper showing that if you inject pure RNA or DNA into mouse muscle cells, it can lead to the transcription of new proteins. If the same approach worked for human cells, the latter paper said in its conclusion, this technology “may provide alternative approaches to v*****e development.”

These two studies do indeed represent seminal work in the field of gene t***sfer, according to Rein Verbeke, a postdoctoral fellow at Ghent University, in Belgium, and the lead author of a 2019 history of m**A-v*****e development. (Indeed, Malone’s studies are the first two references in Verbeke’s paper, out of 224 in total.) Verbeke told me he believes that Malone and his co-authors “sparked for the first time the hope that m**A could have potential as a new drug class,” though he also notes that “the achievement of the m**A v*****es of today is the accomplishment of a lot of collaborative efforts.”

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Nov 2, 2021 21:54:02   #
Navigator
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
ACP, There are several ways to fight the p******c. Each of these efforts isn't perfect. By far the best way is universal v******tion. The numbers don't lie, even though there are plenty of lies about the v******tion. In areas where v******tions are low, serious c***d, and deaths are much higher.
Scandinavia is one example. Norway, and Denmark where the v******tion rate is high are not experiencing serious c***d infections. Sweden where v******tions are not encouraged, the serious c***d infections, and deaths are much higher. If you want proof, just check out online sights that report infection rates.
ACP, There are several ways to fight the p******c.... (show quote)


V******tion rates in Sweden, Norway and Finland are almost identical, in the mid 140's per 100 people; Denmark is only slightly higher, 152 v******tions per 100 people. Serious c***d infections, and deaths are not dependent upon the extant of encouragement in a society to v******te, only upon the actual amount of v******tions administered.

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Nov 3, 2021 02:26:15   #
The Ms.
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"I have heard there are ways to detox from the shot, if I hear of anyone who is successful with that I'll PM you and let you know what they did"

I will appreciate that.
If anyone has suggestions here.
Please post them.


From what I have read no way to remove the spike protein and can’t boost an immunity system that has been destroyed. However, I always have hope!

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Nov 3, 2021 02:29:41   #
The Ms.
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
To the ms:

You asked me to keep you all informed how I was doing after shot and booster that I chose to get. I am just fine and so are my friends who, like me, chose to be "v****d". In fact we just had c***d tests 3 days ago - all are negative for c***d. Any stats on this?


Pleased to hear!!!! Thank You for update. I am concerned and wish you well! D**gon Blessings 🐲

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Nov 3, 2021 02:36:08   #
The Ms.
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Way back before my husband retired there was a lot of talk about bio warfare. Now we are living with it. Without Biden and F***i, this wouldn’t have happened.


I recently read an interesting report that this p******c resulted from bioweapon research . Complicated…. Bottom line….. it has replaced nuclear war as go to “ doing stupid “! DARPA wants to know what will happen if a major pathogen was released. Better to have a plan and antidote….. we have to play the game. I can’t decide what I think about this.

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Nov 3, 2021 03:34:58   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Talk to Joe Rohan who’s doctor prescribed Ivermectin and which cured his C***D. Also check out the successes of Aviptadil in numerous clinical trials which cured many people in late stage C***D who were on ventilators.

You get it you treat it. It’s that simple. But the CDC and FDA are hold therapeutics back forcing the public to take the only drug offered, an experimental v*****e!


You must understand that there are many drugs and therapies being used in the treatment of C***d, right? Many that are still being researched and in clinical trials.

Unfortunately, Iveermectin and Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are not approved for use because research has shown they are either ineffective or the little help they give is overshadowed by the significant health issues they can cause.

Ivermectin. Ivermectin isn't a drug for treating v***ses and the FDA hasn’t approved use of this drug to treat or prevent C****-**. Taking large doses of this drug can cause serious harm. Don't use medications intended for animals on yourself.
Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. These malaria drugs were authorized for emergency use by the FDA during the C****-** p******c. However, the FDA withdrew that authorization when data analysis showed that the drugs are not effective for treating C****-**. They can also cause serious heart problems.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/c****av***s/expert-answers/c****av***s-drugs/faq-20485627

I have read all I can find on Aviptadil and I do like what I am seeing. But there are issues if you are counting on this to help you out right now. There are numerous studies ongoing, but Aviptadil is a drug that is likely only going to be used and effective in late stages of C***d and used only with patients on mechanical ventilators. So in order to get that, unless you sign up for one of the studies that have just started in the last 6 months to test other delivery mechanisms, you will have to be in a hospital and on a ventilator before you may be able to get it. Not something that I would choose as a serious option versus v******tion.

And I don't think anyone is trying to hold back anything. If data develops supporting ivermectin or any other drug in the use for C***d treatment, it will not be kept secret.

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Nov 3, 2021 03:41:11   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
debeda wrote:
What about exemptions for those that recovered from C***d and have natural immunity? Many police and medical workers fall into this category.


You know I agree with you fully here. If we had our act together we would have a process where people who have gotten C***d and beat it should be able to be tested for antibody strength. Have a scale of expected resistance to the v***s based upon your antibody score, and anyone who maintains the baseline does not need to get v******ted if in a position requiring v******tions. Maybe you have to get tested monthly to see where you are. We would gain a hell of a lot of knowledge on immunity from the data too.

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