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Oct 26, 2021 18:26:24   #
StubbornSenior
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"You really need to get a grip on basic Biology. I suggest an any public library."
NO peg!!!
You need to get a grip on reality.
I am not sure that is possible.
BTW; Libraries are limited in what they allow to be shelved.

"It IS experimental. And it is NOT a vaccine. It is new technology that NO ONE has ANY thing but guesses about it's long term affects. The word 'vaccine' is being used to give it the context of being a prevention, when it does no such thing. It seems to lower your chances of catching C19 somewhat, and it does seem to lessen the severity of the symptoms. But a true vaccine provides immunity by exposing your immune system to weak variants of the virus. This stuff does NOT do that, so using the term 'vaccine' is a lie on the part of the government and makers."
"You really need to get a grip on basic Biolo... (show quote)


Well said. It is NOT a vaccine!

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Oct 26, 2021 18:30:34   #
Rose42
 
AuntiE wrote:
The answer is simple. Those vaccines were for illnesses proven to be deadly. The survival rate for COVID is around 98.7%.


Its higher than that. Think of how many who’ve had it and not known it and were never tested.

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Oct 26, 2021 18:30:54   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
microphor wrote:
Well the others were tried and tested. This one "we are the lab rats"


Yep!
It is worse than that;
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/downloads/en/vaccines/vaccinereport.pdf

THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT Evidence of millions of deaths and serious adverse events resulting from the experimental COVID-19 injections BY DAVID JOHN SORENSEN & DR. VLADIMIR ZELENKO MD VERSION 1.0 SEPTEMBER 2021 PURPOSE The purpose of this report is to document how all over the world millions of people have died, and hundreds of millions of serious adverse events have occurred, after injections with the experimental mRNA gene therapy. We also reveal the real risk of an unprecedented genocide. FACTS We aim to only present scientific facts and stay away from unfounded claims. The data is clear and verifiable. Over one hundred references can be found for all presented information, which is provided as a starting point for further investigation. COMPLICITY The data suggests that we may currently be witnessing the greatest organized mass murder in the history of our world. The severity of this situation compels us to ask this critical question: will we rise to the defense of billions of innocent people? Or will we permit personal profit over justice, and be complicit? Networks of lawyers all over the world are preparing class-action lawsuits to prosecute all who are serving this criminal agenda. To all who have been complicit so far, we say: There is still time to turn and choose the side of truth. Please make the right choice. WORLDWIDE Although this report focuses on the situation in the United States, it also applies to the rest of the world, as the same type of experimental injections with similar death rates - and comparable systems of corruption to hide these numbers - are used worldwide. Therefore we encourage everyone around the world to share this report. May it be a wake-up call for all of humanity. THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT 2 AT LEAST 5 TIMES MORE DEATHS CDC WHISTLEBLOWER SIGNS SWORN AFFIDAVIT VAERS data from the American CDC shows that as of September 17, 2021, already 726,963 people suffered adverse events, including stroke, heart failure, blood clots, brain disorders, convulsions, seizures, inflammations of brain & spinal cord, life-threatening allergic reactions, autoimmune diseases, arthritis, miscarriage, infertility, rapid-onset muscle weakness, deafness, blindness, narcolepsy, and cataplexy. Besides the astronomical number of severe side effects, the CDC reports that almost 15,386 people died as a result of receiving the experimental injections. However, a CDC healthcare fraud detection expert named Jane Doe investigated this and came to the shocking discovery that the number of deaths is at least five times higher than what the CDC is admitting. In fact, in her initial communications to professor in medicine Dr. Peter McCullough, this whistleblower said that the number of deaths is ten times higher. The CDC health fraud detection expert signed an affidavit, in which she stated her findings. She carefully chose the wordings '...under-reported by a conservative factor of at least five', but as she revealed initially, the factor could also be ten. Here is an excerpt of the affidavit: 1 'I have, over the last 25 years, developed over 100 distinct healthcare fraud detection algorithms. ... When the COVID-19 vaccine clearly became associated with patient death and harm, I was inclined to investigate the matter. It is my professional estimate that VAERS (the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) database, while extremely useful, is under-reported by a conservative factor of at least 5. ... and have assessed that the deaths occurring within 3 days of vaccination are higher than those reported in VAERS by a factor of at least 5.' The CDC is also vastly underreporting other adverse events, like severe allergic reactions (anaphylaxis). The Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) reported that a study showed how the actual number of anaphylaxis is 50 to 120 times higher than claimed by the CDC.2, 3 On top of that, a private researcher took a close look at the VAERS database, and tried looking up specific case-ID’s. He According to this CDC health fraud detection expert the number of vaccine deaths in the U.S. is not 15,386 but somewhere between 80,000 and 160,000. THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT 3 found countless examples where the original death records were deleted, and in some cases, the numbers have been switched for milder reactions. He says: 'What the analysis of all the case numbers is telling us right now is that there’s approximately 150,000 cases that are missing, that were there, that are no longer there. The question is, are they all deaths?' 4 How severely criminal the CDC is, was also revealed a few years ago, when researchers investigated the link between vaccines and autism. They found that there indeed is a direct connection. So what did the CDC do? All the researchers came together and a large dustbin was placed in the middle of the room. In it they threw all the documents that showed the link between autism and vaccinations....

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Oct 26, 2021 20:36:12   #
Antimarxist21
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Yep!
It is worse than that;
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/downloads/en/vaccines/vaccinereport.pdf

THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT Evidence of millions of deaths and serious adverse events resulting from the experimental COVID-19 injections BY DAVID JOHN SORENSEN & DR. VLADIMIR ZELENKO MD VERSION 1.0 SEPTEMBER 2021 PURPOSE The purpose of this report is to document how all over the world millions of people have died, and hundreds of millions of serious adverse events have occurred, after injections with the experimental mRNA gene therapy. We also reveal the real risk of an unprecedented genocide. FACTS We aim to only present scientific facts and stay away from unfounded claims. The data is clear and verifiable. Over one hundred references can be found for all presented information, which is provided as a starting point for further investigation. COMPLICITY The data suggests that we may currently be witnessing the greatest organized mass murder in the history of our world. The severity of this situation compels us to ask this critical question: will we rise to the defense of billions of innocent people? Or will we permit personal profit over justice, and be complicit? Networks of lawyers all over the world are preparing class-action lawsuits to prosecute all who are serving this criminal agenda. To all who have been complicit so far, we say: There is still time to turn and choose the side of truth. Please make the right choice. WORLDWIDE Although this report focuses on the situation in the United States, it also applies to the rest of the world, as the same type of experimental injections with similar death rates - and comparable systems of corruption to hide these numbers - are used worldwide. Therefore we encourage everyone around the world to share this report. May it be a wake-up call for all of humanity. THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT 2 AT LEAST 5 TIMES MORE DEATHS CDC WHISTLEBLOWER SIGNS SWORN AFFIDAVIT VAERS data from the American CDC shows that as of September 17, 2021, already 726,963 people suffered adverse events, including stroke, heart failure, blood clots, brain disorders, convulsions, seizures, inflammations of brain & spinal cord, life-threatening allergic reactions, autoimmune diseases, arthritis, miscarriage, infertility, rapid-onset muscle weakness, deafness, blindness, narcolepsy, and cataplexy. Besides the astronomical number of severe side effects, the CDC reports that almost 15,386 people died as a result of receiving the experimental injections. However, a CDC healthcare fraud detection expert named Jane Doe investigated this and came to the shocking discovery that the number of deaths is at least five times higher than what the CDC is admitting. In fact, in her initial communications to professor in medicine Dr. Peter McCullough, this whistleblower said that the number of deaths is ten times higher. The CDC health fraud detection expert signed an affidavit, in which she stated her findings. She carefully chose the wordings '...under-reported by a conservative factor of at least five', but as she revealed initially, the factor could also be ten. Here is an excerpt of the affidavit: 1 'I have, over the last 25 years, developed over 100 distinct healthcare fraud detection algorithms. ... When the COVID-19 vaccine clearly became associated with patient death and harm, I was inclined to investigate the matter. It is my professional estimate that VAERS (the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) database, while extremely useful, is under-reported by a conservative factor of at least 5. ... and have assessed that the deaths occurring within 3 days of vaccination are higher than those reported in VAERS by a factor of at least 5.' The CDC is also vastly underreporting other adverse events, like severe allergic reactions (anaphylaxis). The Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) reported that a study showed how the actual number of anaphylaxis is 50 to 120 times higher than claimed by the CDC.2, 3 On top of that, a private researcher took a close look at the VAERS database, and tried looking up specific case-ID’s. He According to this CDC health fraud detection expert the number of vaccine deaths in the U.S. is not 15,386 but somewhere between 80,000 and 160,000. THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT 3 found countless examples where the original death records were deleted, and in some cases, the numbers have been switched for milder reactions. He says: 'What the analysis of all the case numbers is telling us right now is that there’s approximately 150,000 cases that are missing, that were there, that are no longer there. The question is, are they all deaths?' 4 How severely criminal the CDC is, was also revealed a few years ago, when researchers investigated the link between vaccines and autism. They found that there indeed is a direct connection. So what did the CDC do? All the researchers came together and a large dustbin was placed in the middle of the room. In it they threw all the documents that showed the link between autism and vaccinations....
Yep! br It is worse than that; br https://www.stop... (show quote)


If u don't want to get the ' vaccine' then don't. The constitution is there for a reason...comrade Joe knows that, someone will stop him and his ridiculous mandates, soon, I hope.

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Oct 26, 2021 20:38:15   #
martsiva
 
PeterS wrote:
If you traveled or you joined the military did you refuse vaccinations or refuse to have your children vaccinated to enter elementary school or college? If not, why? Why take the required vaccines for a visa or for the military or so your children can go to school but refuse to take the Covid vaccine?


ONE MORE TIME - the vaccines you mention were proven to be safe AFTER YEARS in the making! YOU and your ilk keep pushing this experimental drug that only took months in the making!! Quit with your BS arguments!!

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Oct 26, 2021 20:44:27   #
martsiva
 
PeterS wrote:
Good god, I couldn't have designed an easier question. Blade, I know you were vaccinated for the military and to enter public school and college. Is your position now that you wouldn't join the military or go to school if vaccines were required?

As for the Covid vaccine, you can copy and paste any kind of bullshit that you want but you and I both know that you and your fellow cons are doing this for purely political reasons and your country and your fellow countrymen can be damned.

And again, I have to ask you Blade is it totally beyond you to think for yourself? How would you know what the pandemic is being used for when you can't make a single critical argument of your own?
Good god, I couldn't have designed an easier quest... (show quote)


You took an experimental drug which proves that you cannot think for YOURSELF!! Are you going to argue that safe vaccines take years to develop??

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Oct 26, 2021 21:40:22   #
StubbornSenior
 
martsiva wrote:
ONE MORE TIME - the vaccines you mention were proven to be safe AFTER YEARS in the making! YOU and your ilk keep pushing this experimental drug that only took months in the making!! Quit with your BS arguments!!


Once again, in case you missed it, these are not vaccines.

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Oct 26, 2021 21:45:02   #
pegw
 
Why are beliving in two quacks? Yes, we even have a name for doctors who engage in malpractice, because a few doctors have been ingauging in nonsence for centuries.
This is the truth from real doctors and medical reaserchers:
In the US, there are 2 types of vaccines now aproved by the CDC. Maderna and Pfizer are messinger RNA vaccines, and these are the first of this kind. They are a piece of mRNA in a lipid coat. This is injected into your arm. The little packet binds to a cell and dumps its contents into the cytoplasm of the cell
The peice of mRNA goes to the ribosome whear it is read and the ribosome manufactures a spike protein from the mRNA instructions. The spike pro which is embedded onto the cell wall. Just after the mRNA is read, the cell destroys the mRNA. There is now nothing left of the vaccine. Roving white blood cells identify the imbedded spike protein as an invader and they manufacture antibodies. These antibodies fit into the Corona virus spike proteins and disable it, because Corona viruses use this spike protein to enter our cells. Antibodies coat Corona virus spike proteins so you don't get sick. The other thing the spike proteins do is to alert B cells and T cells to the Corona virus. They remember what the invader is, and can spring into action in future infections
B and T cells last for many years, whear antibodies are destroyed when the immune system thinks the invasion is over. Not right away, but over time. B and T cells can instruct immune cells to manufacturer antibodies at a later date if needed.

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Oct 26, 2021 22:10:53   #
pegw
 
The J and J vaccines work a bit differently. They are engineered adenovirus They are made so can't reproduce. They are injected into our arm, and the virus enters your cell
It has a peice of genetic code that makes your cell make mRNA which goes to the ribosomes and is read, creats a spike protein which is imbeded in the cell wall, which alerts the imune system just like the Maderna and Pfizer vaccines. This is the more traditional type of vaccine. mRNA vaccines are a new devlopement. No virus is involved, just biochemicals.. .I received a polo vaccine when it was brand new. I didn't get blood clots, mylocardosis or get any side affects. The likelyhood of you getting anaphylaxis from the Covid vaccine is 5 in a million doses, the same as for any vaccines on the market today.
You have to sit for 15 minutes after your shot because the nurses have an antidote for anaphylaxis. Mylocardosis
happens in one in 100,000 doses. If you get infected with Covid, your chances of mylocardosis is much much higher. If you get infected your chances of needing medical attention are one in 5.

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Oct 27, 2021 00:54:36   #
The Ms.
 
StubbornSenior wrote:
Once again, in case you missed it, these are not vaccines.


Welcome aboard!!!! You are just what we need…. Looking forward to hearing your take! Enjoy the ride.😁

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Oct 27, 2021 01:30:05   #
StubbornSenior
 
The Ms. wrote:
Welcome aboard!!!! You are just what we need…. Looking forward to hearing your take! Enjoy the ride.😁


Thanks. I’m just learning to navigate but will be more interactive when I figure out this platform and climate. (No…I’m not referring to climate change) 😂

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Oct 27, 2021 01:49:05   #
The Ms.
 
StubbornSenior wrote:
Thanks. I’m just learning to navigate but will be more interactive when I figure out this platform and climate. (No…I’m not referring to climate change) 😂


It gets a little wild some days. You will meet some awesome posters on the Right. I always learn something new. Makes reading the insanity of the left worth it. Buckle up…..

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Oct 27, 2021 02:28:52   #
StubbornSenior
 
The Ms. wrote:
It gets a little wild some days. You will meet some awesome posters on the Right. I always learn something new. Makes reading the insanity of the left worth it. Buckle up…..


I will take your advice and buckle up. 😉

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Oct 27, 2021 05:00:30   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
pegw wrote:
About the devlopement of the vaccines
When Sars1 broke out, years ago, there was an effort to devolope a vaccine against it.
Meanwhile, there were advances in Biology. It uesd to take years just to get a vaccine, then about 3 years to test it out. Because of advances in Biology, and the research on Sars1 we got a testable vaccine in 2 mouths. Because of Operation Warp speed, we spent 9 mounths testing it out. Instead of a few years, we tested some things concourantly rather than in series. It was tested on 20,000 adults. It was given emergency use in Dec of 2020, and a full OK a few weeks ago.
It isn't an expermental vaccine. It hasn't been expermental since 2020.
About the devlopement of the vaccines br When Sar... (show quote)



When sars1 broke out years ago it was developed by Fauci and the same bunch of mass murderers that brought us covid 19 . The way you claim these vaccines work sounds good on paper but in the real world there have been a lot of problems. Read the full Spartacus report that blade runner posted. Also NO APPROVED VACCINE is available in America. A couple have been politically approved but the manufacturers are smart enough to realize the liabilities of delivering an approved version so they aren't making it available here yet. Since your so up on your collage biology you should be able to understand the Spartacus report with enough comprehension to see why this vaccine should not be mandated to anyone let alone little children that have a 99.998 chance of surviving if they do get covid.

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Oct 27, 2021 05:05:38   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
PeterS wrote:
But I do understand. This is purely a political position taken by conservative Republicans to oppose anything that a Democrat proposes. I mean, if suits you politically there isn't a vaccine out there that you would have a problem with taking.


Shoot up and be happy.
If anyone else does not, you went for it.
Case closed.

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