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Oct 26, 2021 16:30:54   #
pegw
 
About the devlopement of the v*****es
When Sars1 broke out, years ago, there was an effort to devolope a v*****e against it.
Meanwhile, there were advances in Biology. It uesd to take years just to get a v*****e, then about 3 years to test it out. Because of advances in Biology, and the research on Sars1 we got a testable v*****e in 2 mouths. Because of Operation Warp speed, we spent 9 mounths testing it out. Instead of a few years, we tested some things concourantly rather than in series. It was tested on 20,000 adults. It was given emergency use in Dec of 2020, and a full OK a few weeks ago.
It isn't an expermental v*****e. It hasn't been expermental since 2020.

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Oct 26, 2021 16:37:26   #
The Ms.
 
pegw wrote:
About the devlopement of the v*****es
When Sars1 broke out, years ago, there was an effort to devolope a v*****e against it.
Meanwhile, there were advances in Biology. It uesd to take years just to get a v*****e, then about 3 years to test it out. Because of advances in Biology, and the research on Sars1 we got a testable v*****e in 2 mouths. Because of Operation Warp speed, we spent 9 mounths testing it out. Instead of a few years, we tested some things concourantly rather than in series. It was tested on 20,000 adults. It was given emergency use in Dec of 2020, and a full OK a few weeks ago.
It isn't an expermental v*****e. It hasn't been expermental since 2020.
About the devlopement of the v*****es br When Sar... (show quote)


Are you a real person or a Computer Algorithm???

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Oct 26, 2021 16:43:19   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
pegw wrote:
About the devlopement of the v*****es
When Sars1 broke out, years ago, there was an effort to devolope a v*****e against it.
Meanwhile, there were advances in Biology. It uesd to take years just to get a v*****e, then about 3 years to test it out. Because of advances in Biology, and the research on Sars1 we got a testable v*****e in 2 mouths. Because of Operation Warp speed, we spent 9 mounths testing it out. Instead of a few years, we tested some things concourantly rather than in series. It was tested on 20,000 adults. It was given emergency use in Dec of 2020, and a full OK a few weeks ago.
It isn't an expermental v*****e. It hasn't been expermental since 2020.
About the devlopement of the v*****es br When Sar... (show quote)


It IS experimental. And it is NOT a v*****e. It is new technology that NO ONE has ANY thing but guesses about it's long term affects. The word 'v*****e' is being used to give it the context of being a prevention, when it does no such thing. It seems to lower your chances of catching C19 somewhat, and it does seem to lessen the severity of the symptoms. But a true v*****e provides immunity by exposing your i****e s****m to weak variants of the v***s. This stuff does NOT do that, so using the term 'v*****e' is a lie on the part of the government and makers.

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Oct 26, 2021 16:53:16   #
pegw
 
You really need to get a grip on basic Biology. I sugest an any public library.

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Oct 26, 2021 16:56:25   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
But I do understand. This is purely a political position taken by conservative Republicans to oppose anything that a Democrat proposes. I mean, if suits you politically there isn't a v*****e out there that you would have a problem with taking.


Peter, you are so full of it! First of all, if this was politically based, why are all of us 'blindly-obedient-to-Trump' minions rejecting the jab? This was TRUMPs project....not Bidens. So your logic is non-logical.
As for the rest.....this is NOT because we are anti-vax. It is because we are anti-THIS particular specific jab, that is NOT a legitimate v*****e, nor has it been tested for long term safety. It has still not been available for even two years, and the time line for testing most v*****es has always been four years or more. There are medical REASONS for not rushing such new technology!
This has been discussed over and over. You KNOW these facts, but you continue to be a troll.

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Oct 26, 2021 16:59:31   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
billy a wrote:
I took the MMR's, polio and all the others when I was six years old. My Mother said it was okay, and I trusted her. There was no reason to doubt the motives of the "govern"ment. Now, I'm an adult and watched the "govern"ment of my Country degrade into something akin to a shady used-car salesman.It has been cheapened, untrustworthy, distant from it's citizens, and lately [since obama] downright criminal. I don't trust them, I don't respect them, and I'm damned sure not going to listen to any medical rhetoric they spew through THEIR heavily-censored media, or that lying amateur of a press-secretary that flaps her hollow version of what liberals want me to think is "news".
No, peter s. , To look to this mis-administration for honest, trustworthy information would be like buying a Rolex from a crack-head on a streetcorner. F.J.B.
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Oct 26, 2021 17:20:28   #
Antimarxist21
 
PeterS wrote:
And that's because??? Based on what will you take a v*****e?


I have had the 2 P****r shots plus a booster the other day. I was not forced to get these injections, I did it of my own free will. I have it on excellent authority (doctors at Weill Cornell medical center, not f***i) that this v*****e does no to healthy people , and it does work. However, I do have a problem with these mandates.

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Oct 26, 2021 17:24:12   #
The Ms.
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
I have had the 2 P****r shots plus a booster the other day. I was not forced to get these injections, I did it of my own free will. I have it on excellent authority (doctors at Weill Cornell medical center, not f***i) that this v*****e does no to healthy people , and it does work. However, I do have a problem with these mandates.


Yes, always an individual choice. Please keep us posted on long term effects.

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Oct 26, 2021 17:32:43   #
Antimarxist21
 
The Ms. wrote:
Yes, always an individual choice. Please keep us posted on long term effects.


Will do but don't expect any illnesses. Choice is what it is all about.

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Oct 26, 2021 17:34:37   #
The Ms.
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
Will do but don't expect any illnesses. Choice is what it is all about.

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Oct 26, 2021 17:34:50   #
The Ms.
 
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Oct 26, 2021 17:38:16   #
Antimarxist21
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
Will do but don't expect any illnesses. Choice is what it is all about.


To the ms.

I left out the word "I", should read I don't expect any illnesses: I promise to keep you informed

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Oct 26, 2021 17:44:56   #
The Ms.
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
To the ms.

I left out the word "I", should read I don't expect any illnesses: I promise to keep you informed


I knew what you intended. I wish you wellšŸ˜Š

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Oct 26, 2021 18:03:07   #
StubbornSenior
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Spartacus Letter: 48 pages, 550 medical science references.

ICENI Institute for C****av***s Emergence Nonprofit Intelligence: The Spartacus Letter ā€“ Rev. 2 (2021-09-28)

Hello, My name is Spartacus, and Iā€™ve had enough.

We have been forced to watch America and the Free World spin into inexorable decline due to a biowarfare attack. We, along with countless others, have been victimized and gaslit by propaganda and psychological warfare operations being conducted by an unelected, unaccountable Elite against the American people and our allies.

Our mental and physical health have suffered immensely over the course of the past year and a half. We have felt the sting of isolation, lockdown, masking, quarantines, and other completely nonsensical acts of healthcare theater that have done absolutely nothing to protect the health or wellbeing of the publicfrom the ongoing C****-** p******c.

Now, we are watching the medical establishment inject literal poison into millions of our fellow Americans without so much as a fight.

We have been told that we will be fired and denied our livelihoods if we refuse to v******te. This was the last straw.

We have spent thousands of hours analyzing leaked footage from W***n, scientific papers from primary sources, as well as the paper trails left by the medical establishment.

What we have discovered would shock anyone to their core.

First, we will summarize our findings, and then, we will explain them in detail. References will be placed at the end.

Summary

ā€¢C****-** is a blood and blood vessel disease. SARS-CoV-2 infects the lining of human blood vessels, causing them to leak into the lungs.
ā€¢Current treatment protocols (e.g. invasive ventilation) are actively harmful to patients, accelerating oxidative stress and causing severe VILI (ventilator-induced lung injuries). The continued use of ventilators in the absence of any proven medical benefit constitutes mass murder.
ā€¢Existing countermeasures are inadequate to slow the spread of what is an aerosolized and potentially wastewater-borne v***s and constitute a form of medical theater.
ā€¢Various non-v*****e interventions have been suppressed by both the media and the medical establishment in favor of v*****es and expensive patented drugs.
ā€¢The authorities have denied the usefulness of natural immunity against C****-**, even thoughnatural immunity confers protection against all of the v***sā€™s proteins, and not just one.
ā€¢V*****es will do more harm than good. The antigen that these v*****es are based on, SARS-CoV-2 Spike, is a toxic protein. SARS-CoV-2 may have ADE, or antibody-dependent enhancement; current antibodies may not neutralize future strains, but instead help them infect immune cells.Also, v******ting during a p******c with a leaky v*****e removes the evolutionary pressure for a v***s to become less lethal.
ā€¢There is a vast and appalling criminal conspiracy that directly links both Anthony F***i and M*****a to the W***n Institute of V******y.
ā€¢C****-** v*****e researchers are directly linked to scientists involved in brain-computer interface (ā€œneural laceā€) tech, one of whom was indicted for taking grant money from China.ā€¢Independent researchers have discovered mysterious nanoparticles inside the v*****es that are not supposed to be present.
ā€¢The entire p******c is being used as an excuse for a vast political and economic t***sformation of Western society that will enrich the already rich and turn the rest of us into serfs and untouchables.
url=https://mega.nz/file/HZNmyRKB#xF15FrsAEZkwBPi... (show quote)


Thank you for your reply, Spartacus! Very well said.

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Oct 26, 2021 18:19:17   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
pegw wrote:
You really need to get a grip on basic Biology. I sugest an any public library.


"You really need to get a grip on basic Biology. I suggest an any public library."
NO peg!!!
You need to get a grip on reality.
I am not sure that is possible.
BTW; Libraries are limited in what they allow to be shelved.

"It IS experimental. And it is NOT a v*****e. It is new technology that NO ONE has ANY thing but guesses about it's long term affects. The word 'v*****e' is being used to give it the context of being a prevention, when it does no such thing. It seems to lower your chances of catching C19 somewhat, and it does seem to lessen the severity of the symptoms. But a true v*****e provides immunity by exposing your i****e s****m to weak variants of the v***s. This stuff does NOT do that, so using the term 'v*****e' is a lie on the part of the government and makers."

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