One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
The low rung of republican politics..
Page <prev 2 of 3 next>
Oct 19, 2021 10:58:43   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
American Vet wrote:
ELWNJ rant from a fool


Laughing at him does create some pleasure.

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 11:49:37   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Florida and Texas are reporting a tremendous surge in Covid infections. Why are the governors issuing mandates contrary to the advice of medical professionals?
GOP Governors and Legislators have realized that allowing Covid to spread - killing people, overloading the healthcare system, and preventing economic recovery - means that they can blame Biden: it IS, after all, the Biden Administration, NOT the Abbott or DeSantis Administration.

OTOH, if Biden tries to exercise emergency power - Roosevelt-style - to mandate action, they’ll cry about ‘gubmint overreach,’ and a Commie Welfare/Healthcare State, and a ‘Second War of Northern Aggression.’

It’s the same way Trump turned Afghanistan into a Kobayashi Maru scenario, allowing him, and the GOP, to castigate whatever decisions Biden had to make.
Florida and Texas are reporting a tremendous surge... (show quote)


Cases are declining in Texas. Where you been???

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 12:04:19   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Cases are declining in Texas. Where you been???


Gee, did you miss my post about that? Or maybe it was on a different thread.. seems to be a lot of outrage today..

Reply
 
 
Oct 19, 2021 12:26:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Gee, did you miss my post about that? Or maybe it was on a different thread.. seems to be a lot of outrage today..


I have only mild outrage today.

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 13:39:39   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Really, name a hospital.
One will be fine.
Also, Leftist propaganda has led you to this conclusion, does a genious like you believe NOW is the best time to lay off hospital workers on a daily basis because they won't get a highly controversial vaccination?
Afterall, these same workers fought through the pandemic ( if you want to call it that) with no protection given, and seemed to have made it through unscathed.
Just sayin'

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 15:07:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
the waker wrote:
Really, name a hospital.
One will be fine.
Also, Leftist propaganda has led you to this conclusion, does a genious like you believe NOW is the best time to lay off hospital workers on a daily basis because they won't get a highly controversial vaccination?
Afterall, these same workers fought through the pandemic ( if you want to call it that) with no protection given, and seemed to have made it through unscathed.
Just sayin'


Please waked out, see the darn quote reply so we know who you are trying to insult..

In any event, I have a few words for you as you must be a lost former American.. no real american could hold the beliefs you seem to extend..

lay of hospital workers.. I find it much more incredible that a health worker would not get the vaccination.. what can they be thinking.. if they are so removed from reality, they are not much use as health worker.. the NG can easily fill in for them..

I feel much more concerned about the several labor strikes going on.. after decades of wealth transfer to the rich, now is a devastating time to demand equality in gains.. which makes me think they will be short lived walk offs.

You seem to be a trumpster on the pandemic problem.. Damn do you honestly believe trump that this killer is some sort of joke??? As for the time line, Biden managed to get me and all old geezers the first vaccine shot in
Feb or March... health workers had first dibs..

You think it is a joke,, over 700,500 have died a miserable death by this Pandemic, which it indeed is.. not even the spanish flu killed that many americans.. you need to pay much more attention to the real world my good buddy..

seem bloody accurate to me..
seem bloody accurate to me.....

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 15:13:43   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Please waked out, see the darn quote reply so we know who you are trying to insult..

In any event, I have a few words for you as you must be a lost former American.. no real american could hold the beliefs you seem to extend..

lay of hospital workers.. I find it much more incredible that a health worker would not get the vaccination.. what can they be thinking.. if they are so removed from reality, they are not much use as health worker.. the NG can easily fill in for them..

I feel much more concerned about the several labor strikes going on.. after decades of wealth transfer to the rich, now is a devastating time to demand equality in gains.. which makes me think they will be short lived walk offs.

You seem to be a trumpster on the pandemic problem.. Damn do you honestly believe trump that this killer is some sort of joke??? As for the time line, Biden managed to get me and all old geezers the first vaccine shot in
Feb or March... health workers had first dibs..

You think it is a joke,, over 700,500 have died a miserable death by this Pandemic, which it indeed is.. not even the spanish flu killed that many americans.. you need to pay much more attention to the real world my good buddy..
Please waked out, see the darn quote reply so we k... (show quote)


Talk about all or nothing! Being a Trumptster means anti-vaxx? Really?? More often than not it means being provax butr anti-mandate.

The healthcare workers you refer to figure they would have gotten it a long time ago or had it a long time ago and don't need the vaccine, although I also know a few who have seen the bad reactions to the vaccine first hand and now say no.

Definitely not an all or nothing issue.

Reply
 
 
Oct 19, 2021 16:21:53   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Talk about all or nothing! Being a Trumptster means anti-vaxx? Really?? More often than not it means being provax butr anti-mandate.

The healthcare workers you refer to figure they would have gotten it a long time ago or had it a long time ago and don't need the vaccine, although I also know a few who have seen the bad reactions to the vaccine first hand and now say no.

Definitely not an all or nothing issue.


Let’s not overlook our natural immune system, especially for the healthcare workers who were previously infected.

You’re absolutely right; anti-mandate not anti-vaccination. A personal choice by everyone. I don’t question the healthcare worker’s decision. They’ve seen it and they know far more than the general public regarding medical issues. More importantly, only they know their personal health status.

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 18:49:55   #
Mikeyavelli
 
kemmer wrote:
Right. Trump's bleach and Lysol are so much better.


Hmm, about as good as a 10 dollar Malbec.
I won't drink any of those.

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 19:17:34   #
martsiva
 
permafrost wrote:
That is basic news,, see it every morning as i watch both local and today show. both cover that and more.. INcluding the reason for the huge insurgence.. when the numbers are driven to past high, and the unvaddinated fill the ICUs, to have a decline driven by forced vaccinations.. and you are happy??

smedley.. I thought you hated vaccines....


You are pushing an experimental drug - not a vaccine!! I see in your little post here that nothing is said about the safety of this drug because they know it IS NOT safe and it is being proven as more info comes out, not to mention it takes years to create a safe vaccine!

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 19:19:21   #
martsiva
 
kemmer wrote:
Right. Trump's bleach and Lysol are so much better.


Only a moron would think he meant it literally!!

Reply
 
 
Oct 19, 2021 20:57:05   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
Florida and Texas are reporting a tremendous surge in Covid infections. Why are the governors issuing mandates contrary to the advice of medical professionals?
GOP Governors and Legislators have realized that allowing Covid to spread - killing people, overloading the healthcare system, and preventing economic recovery - means that they can blame Biden: it IS, after all, the Biden Administration, NOT the Abbott or DeSantis Administration.

OTOH, if Biden tries to exercise emergency power - Roosevelt-style - to mandate action, they’ll cry about ‘gubmint overreach,’ and a Commie Welfare/Healthcare State, and a ‘Second War of Northern Aggression.’

It’s the same way Trump turned Afghanistan into a Kobayashi Maru scenario, allowing him, and the GOP, to castigate whatever decisions Biden had to make.
Florida and Texas are reporting a tremendous surge... (show quote)




DeSantis' critics fall silent as Florida's COVID-19 cases drop
Florida’s COVID-19 response has been described as reckless, dangerous, and anti-science.

Its Republican governor weathered months of scorn for loosening pandemic restrictions ahead of other state leaders. Its case counts when on the rise, are often cited by critics as evidence that the entire Republican approach to managing the virus has failed.
But drops in Florida’s case counts invite a fraction of the attention.
New infections per 100,000 residents dropped to 12 over the past week, according to the New York Times coronavirus tracker. Over the past 14 days, cases dropped by 48%.

Other states with far more expansive pandemic restrictions are seeing COVID-19 continue to spread at faster rates than Florida.

In New York, for example, the rate of new cases is more than double that of Florida’s at 25 per 100,000 residents over the past week.

In Washington state, the rate of new infections per 100,000 residents was at 31 during the past week.

Critics have vilified Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for a pandemic response that deviated early from what other states did to limit transmission. He allowed businesses to resume operations with some limits in early May 2020, just two months after the virus shuttered virtually the entire country, and by September of last year had lifted all restrictions and began efforts to limit new ones that local governments could impose.

J. Edwin Benton, a political science professor at the University of South Florida who cast doubt on the veracity of Florida’s current numbers, suggested DeSantis’ political ambitions have likely driven both his pandemic-related decisions and the intense attention paid to them.

“It’s a right-wing approach, and it’s just a page out of Trump’s playbook,” Benton told the Washington Examiner. “He’s doing it to mimic what Trump would still be doing and did do prior to being voted out of office.”

Other Republican governors who ditched restrictions early or have so far resisted pressure to require vaccination have faced much less heat for pursuing the same kind of policies as DeSantis; Benton said that’s because “they aren’t running for president” like Florida’s chief executive.

Few of the more dramatic predictions about the result of DeSantis’ approach have come to pass.

In the spring, low case counts and low unemployment earned DeSantis some positive media coverage and a limited amount of praise.

But the seeming success of his refusal to mandate masks, social-distancing measures, and, ultimately, vaccines did not silence many of his more vocal critics, who continued to sound the alarm over the summer of DeSantis’ push to reopen schools fully without any masking requirements in the classroom.

That changed in August and September when the highly contagious delta variant drove a deadly wave of new infections that hit Florida, with its high population of elderly residents, especially hard.

The spike in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths attracted widespread national coverage and a fresh round of criticism aimed at DeSantis, who was at that point not just declining to implement pandemic-related mandates statewide but actively attempting to stop any Florida entity from adopting them on their own.

Florida’s apparent emergence from that wave and return to a transmission rate lower than its neighbors and much of the country has warranted little reevaluation of the narrative surrounding DeSantis’ stewardship of the state.

While Florida’s summer surge in cases was viewed in media coverage and political commentary through the lens of DeSantis’ leadership, the state’s current COVID-19 decline has been framed as a product of trends affecting all states — when it’s warranted coverage at all.
In Washington state, with nearly three times the number of new COVID-19 infections this past week than Florida, state employees faced a deadline Monday to take the vaccine or lose their jobs.

Some sectors of New York, including healthcare workers and New York City school personnel, have also faced vaccine mandates that so far have not brought COVID-19 infections down to the level currently seen in Florida.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/desantis-critics-fall-silent-as-floridas-covid-19-cases-drop?utm_campaign=article_rail&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=article_rail

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 21:17:25   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
seem bloody accurate to me..


Yes: But you don't know what you are talking about....you have a case of bidenitis.

Reply
Oct 19, 2021 22:46:00   #
Mikeyavelli
 
American Vet wrote:
Yes: But you don't know what you are talking about....you have a case of bidenitis.


Bidenitis:
A neurological disease that restricts any motion other than holding out your hand for government assistance.

Reply
Oct 20, 2021 07:21:18   #
American Vet
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Bidenitis:
A neurological disease that restricts any motion other than holding out your hand for government assistance.


That is certainly one of the symptoms.


Reply
Page <prev 2 of 3 next>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.