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Sep 6, 2021 12:08:46   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
DASHY wrote:
It is easier to avoid getting pregnant if you are a man. The Pro-Life movement isn't about "the sanctity of life" at all. It's merely a strategy for conservative right-wingers to maintain and most importantly, grow their power. Ask them about the need for vax and mask mandates during this pandemic, they begin shouting: "My Body, My Choice."


Vax and masks, a really important strategy for preventing pregnancy.
Explain how it grows anybody's "power."
Trying to get a man pregnant will not be successful.

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Sep 6, 2021 12:56:10   #
Justice101
 
DASHY wrote:
It is easier to avoid getting pregnant if you are a man. The Pro-Life movement isn't about "the sanctity of life" at all. It's merely a strategy for conservative right-wingers to maintain and most importantly, grow their power. Ask them about the need for vax and mask mandates during this pandemic, they begin shouting: "My Body, My Choice."


Why do many states then, make laws that consider it a double homicide when a pregnant woman is murdered? They consider the unborn at ANY stage to be a HUMAN LIFE.

https://www.nrlc.org/federal/unbornvictims/statehomicidelaws092302/

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Sep 6, 2021 13:06:40   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its not in the Constitution to have the right to kill innocent life


The Supreme Court of the US has made a decision that according to the XIV Amendment a woman has the right to terminate life. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-14/section-1/abortion
That is why I have advocated that we must hope that Justices are wisely chosen as they often surprise the President that nominated them. Although I agree wholeheartedly that the Texas law allowing one to sue is a good idea. A take off of the states that sue gun makers for manufacturing an item people want is an example.
I agree that abortion breaks the 6th Commandment.

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Sep 6, 2021 13:30:02   #
DASHY
 
FallenOak wrote:
The Supreme Court of the US has made a decision that according to the XIV Amendment a woman has the right to terminate life. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-14/section-1/abortion
That is why I have advocated that we must hope that Justices are wisely chosen as they often surprise the President that nominated them. Although I agree wholeheartedly that the Texas law allowing one to sue is a good idea. A take off of the states that sue gun makers for manufacturing an item people want is an example.
I agree that abortion breaks the 6th Commandment.
The Supreme Court of the US has made a decision th... (show quote)


The 6th Commandment includes the summons to spouses to practice permanent and exclusive fidelity to one another. About half of all Americans break that one.

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Sep 6, 2021 14:00:35   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
DASHY wrote:
The 6th Commandment includes the summons to spouses to practice permanent and exclusive fidelity to one another. About half of all Americans break that one.


Agree. Remember when people who wanted to divorce needed to go to Reno, Nevada and establish a six week residency? Which leads breaking to the 7th Commandment.

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Sep 6, 2021 14:22:06   #
Justice101
 
FallenOak wrote:
The Supreme Court of the US has made a decision that according to the XIV Amendment a woman has the right to terminate life. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-14/section-1/abortion
That is why I have advocated that we must hope that Justices are wisely chosen as they often surprise the President that nominated them. Although I agree wholeheartedly that the Texas law allowing one to sue is a good idea. A take off of the states that sue gun makers for manufacturing an item people want is an example.
I agree that abortion breaks the 6th Commandment.
The Supreme Court of the US has made a decision th... (show quote)


When the Supreme Court decided in favor of Texas on their "heartbeat abortion law", they already recognized that the definition of human life has already been established in several state laws regarding their double homicide laws regarding the murder of a pregnant woman, and the states, NOT the federal government make their own laws regarding the killing of the "unborn in the womb". We argue the semantics on viability of the fetus and is it just a clump of cells.

We were once a clump of cells.

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Sep 6, 2021 14:47:55   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Justice101 wrote:
When the Supreme Court decided in favor of Texas on their "heartbeat abortion law", they already recognized that the definition of human life has already been established in several state laws regarding their double homicide laws regarding the murder of a pregnant woman, and the states, NOT the federal government make their own laws regarding the killing of the "unborn in the womb". We argue the semantics on viability of the fetus and is it just a clump of cells.

We were once a clump of cells.
When the Supreme Court decided in favor of Texas o... (show quote)


Life as easier when I was growing up. Didn't have Dr., pharmacy, and lawyers advertising on TV. Actually my family didn't get a TV until 1955 so I was grown by then and TV wasn't very important to me.

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Sep 6, 2021 15:25:31   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Justice101 wrote:
When the Supreme Court decided in favor of Texas on their "heartbeat abortion law", they already recognized that the definition of human life has already been established in several state laws regarding their double homicide laws regarding the murder of a pregnant woman, and the states, NOT the federal government make their own laws regarding the killing of the "unborn in the womb". We argue the semantics on viability of the fetus and is it just a clump of cells.

We were once a clump of cells.
When the Supreme Court decided in favor of Texas o... (show quote)



Just to point out the exact inaction of the SC.. they did not decided in favor of the texas law, they only skipped doing that leaving room for more court cases.. Just to be picky..


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/31/texas-abortion-law-supreme-court/

Texas law banning abortion as early as six weeks goes into effect as the U.S. Supreme Court takes no action

One of the nation's most restrictive abortion bills — which bans abortions as early as six weeks into pregnancy — took effect at midnight after the U.S. Supreme Court did not take action on an emergency appeal by Texas abortion providers Tuesday.

The law prohibits abortions whenever an ultrasound can detect what lawmakers defined as a fetal “heartbeat,” though medical and legal experts say this term is misleading because embryos don’t possess a heart at that developmental stage.

Providers and abortion rights advocacy groups say this would affect at least 85% of the abortions taking place in the state. Many people don’t know they are pregnant within the first six weeks.

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Sep 6, 2021 15:47:55   #
Justice101
 
permafrost wrote:
Just to point out the exact inaction of the SC.. they did not decided in favor of the texas law, they only skipped doing that leaving room for more court cases.. Just to be picky..


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/31/texas-abortion-law-supreme-court/

Texas law banning abortion as early as six weeks goes into effect as the U.S. Supreme Court takes no action

One of the nation's most restrictive abortion bills — which bans abortions as early as six weeks into pregnancy — took effect at midnight after the U.S. Supreme Court did not take action on an emergency appeal by Texas abortion providers Tuesday.

The law prohibits abortions whenever an ultrasound can detect what lawmakers defined as a fetal “heartbeat,” though medical and legal experts say this term is misleading because embryos don’t possess a heart at that developmental stage.

Providers and abortion rights advocacy groups say this would affect at least 85% of the abortions taking place in the state. Many people don’t know they are pregnant within the first six weeks.
Just to point out the exact inaction of the SC.. t... (show quote)


Texas did not BAN abortions, they only defined when they deemed that "life began in the womb with the detection of a fetal heartbeat". This law MAY make people consider to take more responsibility with actual birth control/preventive measures when deciding to enjoy some sexual pleasure in the future; if it prevents a woman to use abortion as a heinous method of birth control that could cause infertility or worse for the woman.

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Sep 6, 2021 15:50:48   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
Just to point out the exact inaction of the SC.. they did not decide in favor of the Texas law, they only skipped doing that leaving room for more court cases. Just to be picky.


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/31/texas-abortion-law-supreme-court/

Texas law banning abortion as early as six weeks goes into effect as the U.S. Supreme Court takes no action

One of the nation's most restrictive abortion bills — which bans abortions as early as six weeks into pregnancy — took effect at midnight after the U.S. Supreme Court did not take action on an emergency appeal by Texas abortion providers Tuesday.

The law prohibits abortions whenever an ultrasound can detect what lawmakers defined as a fetal “heartbeat,” though medical and legal experts say this term is misleading because embryos don’t possess a heart at that developmental stage.

Providers and abortion rights advocacy groups say this would affect at least 85% of the abortions taking place in the state. Many people don’t know they are pregnant within the first six weeks.
Just to point out the exact inaction of the SC.. t... (show quote)


Well, now they need a simple test after the fun.

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Sep 6, 2021 17:02:22   #
DASHY
 
Justice101 wrote:
Texas did not BAN abortions, they only defined when they deemed that "life began in the womb with the detection of a fetal heartbeat". This law MAY make people consider to take more responsibility with actual birth control/preventive measures when deciding to enjoy some sexual pleasure in the future; if it prevents a woman to use abortion as a heinous method of birth control that could cause infertility or worse for the woman.


I'm quite certain that a rapist "out to enjoy some sexual pleasure" doesn't give a $hit about birth control measures. According to all media announcements, "Texas passes law banning abortion after six weeks." https://news.yahoo.com/texas-passes-law-banning-abortion-074252696.html

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Sep 6, 2021 17:05:32   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
DASHY wrote:
I'm quite certain that a rapist "out to enjoy some sexual pleasure" doesn't give a $hit about birth control measures. According to all media announcements, "Texas passes law banning abortion after six weeks." https://news.yahoo.com/texas-passes-law-banning-abortion-074252696.html


Please tell us what percentage of abortions are the result of rape. I can't wait to see how informed you are.

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Sep 6, 2021 17:08:39   #
DASHY
 
amadjuster wrote:
Please tell us what percentage of abortions are the result of rape. I can't wait to see how informed you are.


One rape is one too many. The victim has the right to choose what to do next.

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Sep 6, 2021 17:30:45   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
DASHY wrote:
One rape is one too many. The victim has the right to choose what to do next.


Then get the morning after pill.

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Sep 6, 2021 17:34:45   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
amadjuster wrote:
Then get the morning-after pill.


That is likely too complicated for the liberal mind to grasp.

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