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Cruelty of this Government is UNBELIEVABLE!!....Vaccinate or Die!!😡😡😡
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Aug 20, 2021 07:21:39   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
kemmer wrote:
All the trash posted here by dumb anti-vaxxers.


Most of the dumb posts are from trash talking. vaccinated people who are afraid their own shadow. The vaccine doesn't make you immune , it just makes the symptoms less severe. You may not even know you have it. It doesn't stop you from getting Covid , and it doesn't stop you from spreading it to others. I am no more likely. to spread Covid then you. So don't treat me like a second class citizen ya friggen bigot.

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Aug 20, 2021 07:21:53   #
Big Kahuna
 
kemmer wrote:
Remains to be seen. The overwhelming majority of those now in hospitals' ICUs are the unvaccinated.


The majority of those in icu's in hospitals are illegal immigrants sick with Covid, tb, malaria and AIDS. All are unvaccinated and are using up our hospital beds paid for by American citizens.

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Aug 20, 2021 10:43:23   #
F.D.R.
 
proud republican wrote:
https://mynorthwest.com/3094868/rantz-uw-medicine-pulls-heart-transplant-patient-from-list-after-refusing-covid-vaccine/


What does a COVID shot have to do with a heart transplant? NOTHING ! This is blackmail and criminal.

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Aug 20, 2021 10:46:25   #
F.D.R.
 
Kevyn wrote:
Think about the irony, this guy trusts the doctor to crack his chest open remove his diseased heart and replace it with another, yet he doesn’t trust his insistence that he take a well tested harmless life saving vaccine before the procedure. Perhaps he can get Sean Hannity to do his surgery or get the guy on the bar stool next to his to do it after watching some YouTube videos.


The man needs a new heart not a vaccine for an illness he doesn't have and may not ever get. These are two separate issues and the 'doctor' has no right to tie the two together.

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Aug 20, 2021 10:56:40   #
kemmer
 
drlarrygino wrote:
The majority of those in icu's in hospitals are illegal immigrants sick with Covid, tb, malaria and AIDS.

Hahahahaha.... The Alabama Medical System is nearing collapse; they have NEGATIVE numbers of ICU beds. The people in those beds are UNVACCINATED CITIZENS with covid. And Florida is one step away from the same situation. I don't know where you're getting all your trash info, but I can guess.

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Aug 20, 2021 11:14:11   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahahahaha.... The Alabama Medical System is nearing collapse; they have NEGATIVE numbers of ICU beds. The people in those beds are UNVACCINATED CITIZENS with covid. And Florida is one step away from the same situation. I don't know where you're getting all your trash info, but I can guess.


Unfortunately kemmy is not bright enough to put 2 and 2 together, always gets five. The border is being over run, many of them carrying covid and being transported all across the US. Funny how this outbreak is corresponding with the flood of ILLEGAL ALIENS the the dodering old buffoon opened the borders to.

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Aug 20, 2021 11:14:43   #
Dinty
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
proud, I still don't understand why so many Republicans refuse to take this life saving vaccine. It will protect your life, and the lives of those close to you. Those that refuse this vaccine no matter what, should be isolated. If I was a surgeon, I would refuse to operate on anybody that remains unvaccinated as well. Maybe their life doesn't much to those that refuse the vaccination, but my life means a great deal to me. I don't know how many years I have left, but I want every one of them. As far as I'm concerned, people have a right to drive their cars a hundred miles an hour off a cliff, as long as it doesn't endanger others. They do not have the right to drive their car into a crowd, which is exactly what they are doing by their idiotic refusal to become vaccinated. I say, to hell with them!
proud, I still don't understand why so many Republ... (show quote)


If it is a life saving vaccine, why are pregnant women and breast feeding mothers told not to take the jab?

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Aug 20, 2021 11:19:30   #
jim_oldman Loc: Lexington, SC
 
F.D.R. wrote:
The man needs a new heart not a vaccine for an illness he doesn't have and may not ever get. These are two separate issues and the 'doctor' has no right to tie the two together.



You are correct but don't blame the doctors. The are just worker bees, blame the mindless bureaucrats and they are dangerous.



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Aug 20, 2021 11:28:21   #
kemmer
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Unfortunately kemmy is not bright enough to put 2 and 2 together, always gets five. The border is being over run, many of them carrying covid and being transported all across the US. Funny how this outbreak is corresponding with the flood of ILLEGAL ALIENS the the dodering old buffoon opened the borders to.

Right. As Trump said, if illegals aren't murdering and raping innocent citizens, they're infecting all Americans with covid and all manner of loathsome diseases.

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Aug 20, 2021 12:03:59   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Kevyn wrote:
Think about the irony, this guy trusts the doctor to crack his chest open remove his diseased heart and replace it with another, yet he doesn’t trust his insistence that he take a well tested harmless life saving vaccine before the procedure. Perhaps he can get Sean Hannity to do his surgery or get the guy on the bar stool next to his to do it after watching some YouTube videos.


Ridiculous analogy. With all the time you spend on here, maybe you have time to take a couple of classes on reasoning?

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Aug 20, 2021 12:10:37   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
proud, I still don't understand why so many Republicans refuse to take this life saving vaccine. It will protect your life, and the lives of those close to you. Those that refuse this vaccine no matter what, should be isolated. If I was a surgeon, I would refuse to operate on anybody that remains unvaccinated as well. Maybe their life doesn't much to those that refuse the vaccination, but my life means a great deal to me. I don't know how many years I have left, but I want every one of them. As far as I'm concerned, people have a right to drive their cars a hundred miles an hour off a cliff, as long as it doesn't endanger others. They do not have the right to drive their car into a crowd, which is exactly what they are doing by their idiotic refusal to become vaccinated. I say, to hell with them!
proud, I still don't understand why so many Republ... (show quote)


I don't know why people who don't agree with you have to go hide or isolate. If you're vaccinated supposedly you're safe so what the f$$k do you care if somebody else is not. And if people with heart conditions are at risk of complications or death by taking vaccine, you really believe they should be forced too? What about people with other medical problems whose doctors recommend they don't take vaccine, are you saying they should be denied medical care if they don't take vaccine? How about those with lung conditions i.e. breathing issues- shod they be forced?

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Aug 20, 2021 12:18:02   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
kemmer wrote:
Right. As Trump said, if illegals aren't murdering and raping innocent citizens, they're infecting all Americans with covid and all manner of loathsome diseases.


Wow, I will say it out LOUD. You are a liar.

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Aug 20, 2021 12:22:24   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Wow, I will say it out LOUD. You are a liar.


He is

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Aug 20, 2021 12:24:33   #
kemmer
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Wow, I will say it out LOUD. You are a liar.

What does blaming the covid surge in Southern red states on illegals make YOU out to be, huh?

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Aug 20, 2021 12:29:27   #
KurtGodel7
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
proud, I still don't understand why so many Republicans refuse to take this life saving vaccine. It will protect your life, and the lives of those close to you. Those that refuse this vaccine no matter what, should be isolated. If I was a surgeon, I would refuse to operate on anybody that remains unvaccinated as well. Maybe their life doesn't much to those that refuse the vaccination, but my life means a great deal to me. I don't know how many years I have left, but I want every one of them. As far as I'm concerned, people have a right to drive their cars a hundred miles an hour off a cliff, as long as it doesn't endanger others. They do not have the right to drive their car into a crowd, which is exactly what they are doing by their idiotic refusal to become vaccinated. I say, to hell with them!
proud, I still don't understand why so many Republ... (show quote)


The case against getting the vaccine is made here: https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

I’d be curious as to how many of those points the pro-vaccine people are able to refute with empirical data. I personally try to follow where the data lead.

As for the rest of your post: either the vaccine works or it doesn’t. If it does, then a person with the vaccine should not be concerned about being exposed to someone without the vaccine. If it doesn’t work then why get it? Either way there is no justification for coercion.

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