manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Moochie, to your last question and its meaning, there is no such thing as true separation of church and state. One has to read Constitution Amendment I very carefully. We are prohibited from establishing a national church, but not prohibited from involving the church in all daily life. As to the rest of that question, I am perfectly satisfied with our Constitutional Republic form of government, but I am most certainly against presidents that push out beyond its legal provisions as Obama and Biden have done. I am most thoroughly against any form of Collective government such as Socialism or Communism in any of its forms.

I do believe that Christianity offers a true path for society to follow, so long as it is not a full-blown Theocracy, or a Dominion in your terms.

Since I do not attend any church at this time, mainly due to poor health, I cannot attest to the trend you speak of for ministers, nor can I believe my Episcopal church would do that. However, if I had to choose between a Theocracy and either Socialism or Communism, I believe I would choose a Theocracy. I do not know the full consequences of a Theocracy to my way of life, so I reserve my option to reassess the situation going forward! It is my hope that such a choice would never occur.

Having read your references, I am opposed to this trend of a new evangelical approach, and I can only harken back to the Episcopal church of my upbringing and life till now. That is where I am dwelling.

The Seven Mountains concept is deficient in my opinion: I have identified over 26 domains of importance to life. I apply my Christian ethics in each case.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

OUTLINE OF MY WORLDVIEW:

                                                                 April 14, 2017

If an in-depth worldview spiked up from level ground like the Rockies, this paper represents slices off the very top of many peaks.  Further explanations for the many mountains beneath the peaks generally require either a paragraph, an article or an entire book. The key references provided below are essential reading to understand this Worldview in detail.


         Theology: God: The Trinity; Eternal Law; Divine Law; Salvation: The Designer; The Essence of Love; Omnipotent; Omnipresent; Beyond Human Logic; Satan: Why is there Something Rather than Nothing? Rapture; Tribulation; Second Coming of Christ; Immortal Souls; Life Begins at Conception.

          Religion: Belief; Worship; Prayer; Bible=The Word of God;  Walking with God; Fellowship of the Church; Sin; Salvation Through Jesus; Stewardship of God's Things; Christian Ethics and Morality; Love of God and Love of Neighbor; The Ten Commandments; The Gift of Free Will; Prayer; Good Men and Bad Men; Vexation at Progressives and Liberals; LGBT and Atheism. Life Begins at Conception; Atheists, Liberals and LGBTs tolerated; Abortion is Murder, but there are Exceptions.

          Ethics: Christian Morality; Virtue; Faith; Hope; Charity; Love; Prudence; Temperance; Fortitude; Justice; Truth; Honesty; and more...Integrity sums it up. 

          Cosmos and Universe: Big Bang; Infinite Galaxies; God's Design; Space; Time; Events; Concrete and Abstract Things; The Good and Bad; Earth; Age of Universe=13.8 B Years; Age of Earth= 4.7 B Years; Are Multiverses Possible?  Immensity Difficult to Imagine; Light-Years of the Expanding Universe; Alien Life?

Biology: Mind-Body Dualism;  Life and People: God's Design; Birth; Existence; Survival; Health; Education; Defense; Marriage; Procreation; Death; Life After Death; Good and Evil; Conventional Lifestyles;
Inclusiveness; Equality before the Law; Medical Services; Heredity; Talents; Relations; Food and its Production; Clothing; Shelter; Jobs; Pay; Retirement; Entertainment; Information; Transport.

Psychology: Mind and Soul Dualism

         Sociology: Governance; Right-Sized Democratic Republic; Legislative; Administrative; Judicial Divisions; Preserving the Constitution; Defending Freedom and Liberty of the People; Checks and Balances; Understanding Other Forms of Governance; Reject Socialism and Communism; Establishing and Protecting Private Property; Two-Party Politics; Promoting Businesses; Melting Pot; Illegals.

          Defense: Assured Strong Armed Forces; Security; Tools of War; Nuclear Weapons; Design; Development; Test and Evaluation; Production; Training; Deployment; Combat; Just War; MAD; Unfriendly Nations; Mutual Defense Treaties; Use of Power; Assured Homeland Defense; Thwarting Islamic Jihad; Large and Small Conflicts; Winning Strategies. History  of Wars.

          Associations: Freedom to Associate; Friends and Acquaintances; Strength in Numbers; Mediating Organizations and Institutions; Pledge of Allegiance; Stability; Patriotism; Conserving the Good; Nations of the World; Political Organizations; Conservatism; Anti-Collectivism; Anti-Leftism; Anti-Progressivism; Anti-Naturalism.

       Natural Law: Revealed Law; Innate Freedom and Liberty; Natural Rights; Natural Duties; Rule of Law; The Constitution; and Common Law; Ordnances; Customs; Traditions; Institutions; Constraints; Citizenship; Judicial Restraint ; Law Enforcement; Moral Rectitude; Integrity.

        Knowledge: Information Gathering; Scholarship; Study and Analysis; Establishing Truth;  Recording; Dissemination; Publishing;  Wide Availability as Needed; Indexing; The Internet; Learning; Education; History; Professions; Libraries; Philosophy; Psychology; Tradeoff Studies; Universals & Particulars; Science and Engineering.  

          Reason: Facts; Evidence; Truth; Logic; Fallacies; Study and Analysis; Proof; Methods of Science; Right Reason; God's Path. Tradeoffs. Lessons of History.

          Physics & Hard Sciences: Things and their Relationships; Physical Laws; Science; Mathematics; General Relativity; Quantum Theory; String Theory; Theory of Everything; Applied Sciences; Engineering; Technology; Computers and Networks; Algorithms and Software; Communications; Engineering.

          Soft Sciences: Languages; Literature; History; Economics; Social Sciences; Psychology; Philosophy; Etc.  

          Aesthetics: Appreciation of Beauty; Art in General; Well-formed Writing; Cogent Arguments;   Music of all kinds; Plays; Movies; TV shows with Worthwhile Content; Dance; Opera. Dedication, Study & Development of Talent.

          Politics: Conservatism; Embracing and Respecting the Foundations of our Nation; The Constitution; the Customs, Traditions and Institutions of our Republic; deep desire to improve our nation and its people especially Walking with God; realizing Christianity to the fullest; Fiscal and Social Conservatism; Balancing the Budget; Reducing the National Debt.


          Economics: Endeavors: Free Market with Constraints; Products and Services; Industrialization; Monetizing; Design; Economics; Jobs; Finance; Development; Manufacturing; Distribution; Sales; Low Taxes; Companies; Corporations; International Corporations; Foreign Ownership.    

          Finances: Tax Revision; Payout for the National Debt; Balanced Budgets; Reduction of Fraud, Waste, and Superfluous Programs; Tackling the Entitlement Fiasco; Creation of Well-Paying Jobs;  Raising Revenues; Coping with Loss of the Dollar as the World's Reserve Currency; Elimination of Earmarks; Elimination of Omnibus Bills; Allow Time to Read.

          Energy: Electricity Generation Plants and Distribution Networks; Coal, Hydro; Natural Gas, Nuclear; Solar; Wind; Wave; Steam; Gasoline Engines; Diesel,

          Structures: Buildings; Homes; Malls; Stadiums and Sports Domes; Parks; Swimming Pools; Roads; Streets; Bridges; Tunnels; Rails; Seaports; Airports; Train Stations; Factories; Monuments and Statues; Pipelines.

          Transportation: Automobile; Bus; Truck; Train; Aircraft; Subway; Ships; Boats; Bicycle; Foot; Animals.

          Sports: Football; Baseball; Soccer; Tennis; Track; Boxing; Martial Arts; Lacrosse; Basketball; Hockey; Ping Pong; Racquetball; Volleyball. Car Racing; Horseracing; Shooting; Hunting. 

          Crime: Detection, Solution; Indictment; Prosecution; Police Organizations at Local. County, State, and National Levels; Incarceration; Death Penalty; Parole; Commutation; Pardon; Three Felonies Require a Life Term; Build Prisons as Needed.

          World Nations: World Geography; Topology; Resources; Population; Cities; Languages; Customs; Religions; Conflicts; Warrior Cults; Water; Lakes, Rivers and Streams; The UN; Trade Treaties; Other Forms of Government;  History; Allies and Enemies.  English Common Language.                     

         Foreign Policy: Beneficial Trade Agreements; Non-Interference; Mutual Defense Treaties; Encouraging Democracy; Most-Favored Nation; Defeat of ISIS; Deep Qualification of Muslims; Threats of Russia, China; and North Korea; Middle East Turmoil; Support for Israel; Deemphasize  UN; Arctic and Antarctic Exploitation. Gathering Intelligence; The Specter of War, Especially Nuclear War.

       The Future: We know the past; we are living the present; what about the future? Prognosticators;  Nostradamus; The Rapture; The End of Earth; Two-Year Plans; Five-Year Plans;

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Reading List
⦁ A Primer on Formal Logic, John Cooley
⦁ Alexander Hamilton, Ron Chernow
⦁ A Nation under God, Krannwitter and Palm
⦁ A Short History of Nearly Everything, Bill Bryson
⦁ America Alone, Mark Steyn
⦁ American Conservatism (An encyclopedia)
⦁ Anarchy, State, and Utopia, Robert Nozick
⦁ An End to Evil, Perle and Frum
⦁ Applied Economics, Thomas Sowell*
⦁ Arrogance, Bernard Goldberg
⦁ Aquinas, F. C, Copelston*
⦁ Basic Economics, Thomas Sowell
⦁ Blueprint for Action, Thomas Barnett
⦁ Broke, Glenn Beck
⦁ By Design, Larry Witham
⦁ Darwin’s Doubt, Stephen Meyer
⦁ City of God, Saint Augustine, Abridged by Vernon Bourke
⦁ Civilization, Niall Ferguson
⦁ Climate of Extremes, Michaels and Bulling
⦁ Collapse, Jared Diamond
⦁ Colossus, Niall, Ferguson
⦁ Command of the Seas, John Lehman, Jr.
⦁ Conflict of Visions, Thomas Sowell
⦁ Constitutional Chaos, Andrew Napolitano
⦁ Courage and Consequence, Karl Rove
⦁ Crimes Against Liberty, David Limbaugh
⦁ Critique of Pure Reason, Immanuel Kant
⦁ Death by Liberalism J. R. Dunn
⦁ Defending the West, Ibn Warraq
⦁ Disinformation, Richard Miniter
⦁ Do-Gooders, Mona Charen
⦁ Doubts About Darwin, Thomas Woodward
⦁ Emerson, F. I. Carpenter
⦁ Emile, Jacques Rousseau
⦁ Empire, Nial Ferguson
⦁ Encyclopedia Britannica, 1953 Edition
⦁ Encyclopedia of World Religions
⦁ Epicenter, Joel Rosenberg
⦁ Ethics in Theory and Practice, Thomas Hill
⦁ Evidence for God, Dembski and Licona Eds.
⦁ Fleeced, Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
⦁ Free to Choose, Milton Friedman
⦁ Future Shock, Alvin Toffler
⦁ Gangster Government, David Freddoso
⦁ Getting America Right, Fuelner and Wilson
⦁ Guns, Germs, and Steel, Jared Diamond
⦁ Gödel, Escher, Bach, Douglas Hofstadter*
⦁ History of Political Philosophy, Third Edition, Leo Strauss and Joseph Cropsey
⦁ Holy Bible, King James Version*
⦁ Holy War on the Home Front, Harvey Kushner
⦁ How Now Shall We Live, Charles Colson*
⦁ Ideas of the Great Philosophers, Sahakian and Sahakian
⦁ In Defense of Natural Law, Robert George
⦁ Intellectuals and Society, Thomas Sowell, 1st and 2nd Editions*
⦁ In the Words of Our Enemies, Jed Babbin
⦁ Inventing Reality, Michael Parrenti
⦁ Imperial Hubris, Michael Scheuer
⦁ Inside The Asylum, Jed Babbin
⦁ Introduction to Mathematical Logic, Alonzo Church
⦁ Leave Us Alone, Grover Norquist
⦁ Leviathan, Thomas Hobbes
⦁ Liberty and Tyranny, Mark Levin*
⦁ Meditations, Marcus Aurelius
⦁ Men in Black, Mark Levin
⦁ Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis*
⦁ Mind Siege, Tim LaHaye*
⦁ Natural Law and Natural Rights, John Finnis
⦁ Natural Law and Human Nature, Father Joseph Koterski, SJ*
⦁ Natural Law and Natural Rights, Robert George
⦁ Natural Rights & the Right to Choose, Hadley Arkes
⦁ Neoconservatism, Irving Kristol
⦁ Obama's America, Dinesh D'Souza
⦁ Objectivism, Leonard Peikoff
⦁ One Nation, Indivisible, Harvey Wilkerson
⦁ On Liberty, John Stuart Mill
⦁ On the Origin of Species, Charles Darwin
⦁ Operationalism, Percy Bridgman
⦁ Our Mathematical Universe, Max Tegmark
⦁ Outrage, Dick Morris
⦁ Persecution, David Limbaugh
⦁ Philosopher’s Handbook, Stanly Rosen, Ed.
⦁ Plato, Complete Works, John Cooper, Editor
⦁ Postmodernism, Glen Ward
⦁ Power Shift, Alvin Toffler
⦁ Power to the People, Laura Ingraham
⦁ Prayer, Timothy Keller
⦁ Programming the Universe, Seth Lloyd
⦁ Real Change, Newt Gingrich
⦁ Religion of Peace, Robert Spencer
⦁ Revolt, Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
⦁ Revolutionary Wealth, Alvin & Heidi Toffler
⦁ Right from the Heart, Phil Valentine
⦁ Rollback, Thomas Woods
⦁ Sabotage, Rowan Scarborough
⦁ Signature in the Cell, Stephen Meyer*
⦁ Simple Government, Mike Huckabee
⦁ State of Fear, Michael Crichton
⦁ Strategery, Bill Sammon
⦁ The Abolition of Man, C. S. Lewis*
⦁ The Age of Analysis, Morton White, Editor
⦁ The Age of Belief, Anne Fremantle, Editor
⦁ The Agile Gene, Matt Ridley
⦁ The Basic Works of Aristotle, Richard McKeon
⦁ The Betrayal of the American Dream, D. Bartlett & J. Steele
⦁ The Big Questions, Nils Rauhut*
⦁ The Book of Virtues, William J. Bennett
⦁ The Books That Screwed Up the World, Benjamin Wiker
⦁ The City of God, Saint Augustine
⦁ The Clash of Orthodoxies, Robert George
⦁ The Closing of the American Mind, Allan Bloom
⦁ The Complete Works of Plato, John N. Cooper, Editor
⦁ The Concise Conservative Encyclopedia, Brad Minor
⦁ The Conservative Mind, Russell Kirk
⦁ The Constitution of the United States of America*
⦁ The Dancing Wu Li Masters, Gary Zukav
⦁ The Death of Money, Jack Rickards
⦁ The Declaration of Independence
⦁ The Devil's Delusion, David Berlinski
⦁ The Edge of Evolution, Michael Behe
⦁ The Elegant Universe, Brian Greene*
⦁ The Examined Life, Robert Nozick
⦁ The Fabric of the Cosmos, Brian Greene
⦁ The Federalist Papers, Hamilton, Madison, and Jay*
⦁ The 5000 Year Leap, W. Cleon Skousen*
⦁ The Great Ideas of Philosophy, 2nd Edition, Dr. Daniel Robinson*
⦁ The Great Transformation, Karen Armstrong
⦁ The Great War for Civilization, Robert, Fisk
⦁ The Greening of America, Charles Reich
⦁ The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution, Bernard Bailyn
⦁ The Information, James Gleick
⦁ The Kindergarten of Eden, Evan Sayet
⦁ The Koran, N. J. Dawood, translator
⦁ The Language of God, Francis Collins
⦁ The Laws of Power, Robert Greene
⦁ The Lexus and the Olive Tree, Thomas Friedman
⦁ The Liberal Mind, Lyle Rossiter,Jr.
⦁ The Liberty Amendments, Mark R. Levin
⦁ The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, Gregory Hayes
⦁ The Mind of God, Paul Davies
⦁ The Moral Animal, Robert Wright
⦁ The Natural Law, Heinrich Rammen PhD.*
⦁ The Neocon Reader, Irwin Seltzer
⦁ The Pentagon’s New Map, Thomas Barnett
⦁ The Philosophy Handbook, Stanley Rosen, Editor
⦁ The Philosophy of As If, Hans Vaihinger (Public Library)
⦁ The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam, Robert Spencer
⦁ The Politically Incorrect Guide to Western Civilization, Anthony Esolin
⦁ The Politics of Bad Faith, David Horrowitz
⦁ The President, the Pope and the Prime Minister, John O'Sullivan
⦁ The Prince, Machiavelli
⦁ The Professors, David Horowitz
⦁ The Politics of Bad Faith, David Horowitz
⦁ The Purpose Driven Life, Rick Warren
⦁ The Really Inconvenient Truths, Ian Murray
⦁ The Reason for God, Timothy Keller
⦁ The Republic, Plato
⦁ The Right Nation, Micklethwait and Wooldridge
⦁ The Science of God, Gerald L. Schroeder
⦁ The Science of Good and Evil,

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

WOW! Very Comprehensive.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

A few more to this very comprehensive list: Just a suggestion.

Man's Search for Meaning, Victor Frankl
Brave New World, Aldous Huxley
The Authoritarian Moment, Ben Shapiro
American Marxism, Mark Levin

moochie Loc: Fontana, California

Thank you for your civil, and comprehensive reply,
I, like Yourself, would much rather live under the New Testament Law Of 'Grace.
Psalm 136
O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: for "His Mercy Endureth For Ever".
Although Jesus isn't a dictator, he provided 'free will', for us all.
2nd Peter 3
Nevertheless we, according to his Promise, look for New Heavens and a New Earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

But,...we are living in This Present World Condition;
Romans 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

We all have a common adversary;
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom "the god of this world" hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious "*Gospel of Christ*", who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The way out;
2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore "Come Out From Among Them", and Be Ye Separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
[it's not a forced entry, it is by "Each Individual's Choice"
i.e. America's Secular Government has No place, No right, in Our Choice]
{A Theocracy Would Remove That Choice--no thanks}

Sundays are for those who Desire, and Choose, to attend Spiritual Church.
KJV The *Gospel According To Jesus Christ* and The Apostles
Matthew 28:19--John 3:1-7--Matthew 16:19--Acts 2:38-39

I remain vehemently opposed, to Trump and the Evangelicals & Catholics For Trump Coalition, Church and State goals for America.

Jesus Christ asked for a coin to explain 'it' to the Pharisees
He saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them,
"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's".

Sincerely,
moochie

The Ms.

So you are for the Demonic Rats and fascism????

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Thanks for the additions. I will look into them!

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Moochie, I do not grasp your view of Trump. I cannot believe he champions Dominionism above all other Christian views. I can believe that he welcomes their support, however, as he needs all the votes he can get...

moochie Loc: Fontana, California

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/godzooks/2020/03/christianity-theocracy-government-bill-barr-united-states/

Thank you for your reply.
I'll make this short, and straight to the point.
"you are known by the company you keep"
“The more someone believed the United States is and should be a "Christian Nation", the more likely they were to vote for Trump.” In fact, they found that it was The Single Greatest Religious Predictor that a voter would support Trump in 2016.

Pence Bannon Pompeo
https://religionnews.com/2021/06/23/unholy-post-trump-trinity-bannon-pompeo-and-pence/

Mike Pence i.e. Trump's Choice for his Vice President
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/01/gods-plan-for-mike-pence/546569/

Bill Barr i.e. Trump's Choice for A G
https://www.newsweek.com/bill-barr-most-dangerous-attorney-general-us-history-richard-w-painter-religious-extremism-1479858
Former White House Ethics Chief under President George W. Bush described Attorney General William Barr as the "most dangerous" in United States history, citing what he described as religious zealotry.
Richard W. Painter shared a New York Times opinion article Tuesday saying that Barr is on a Theocratic Mission and is using Justice Department power to promote "religious nationalism." Painter argued that Barr is "subverting the Constitution" and appealing to "conservative evangelicals" for support. The former Bush administration attorney also touted a congressional candidate in Indiana who was the lone Notre Dame University Law School faculty member to publicly criticize what he called
Barr's "dominionist rant" there in an October speech.

It is called "Patriotism" but it's "Christian Dominionistic Nationalism"
https://truthout.org/articles/christian-dominionists-meet-at-trump-s-washington-hotel-to-answer-the-divine-call-to-war/
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/02/04/qanon-christian-extremism-nationalism-violence-466034

These are a few links which reveal the number of Dominionistic Christians, and their True Intentions,
with Trump as their leader.

SCOTUS consist of 9 judges 6 are Catholics.

Thanks again,
moochie

ps: Ecumenism, movement or tendency toward worldwide Christian unity or cooperation
see: Amy Coney Barrett

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Add The Road to Serfdom. F.A. Hayek

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Yes, that is a very important book!

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Both Brave New World and 1984 are very profound. The List grows!

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Anything by C.S. Lewis.
However, The Woke Crowd and Leftist want to discard anything that came before, especially Western Civilization.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

AKA the logical fallacy guilt by association.