OBAMACARE is best for America (Page 4): Most "rich" people have Medicare, but they actually have purchased insurance which gives them much better care and quality of doctors and...

GVJaneAz Loc: Green Valley, Az.

Most "rich" people have Medicare, but they actually have purchased insurance which gives them much better care and quality of doctors and facilities, which costs them monthly up to $200-$500 in addition to their Medicare deduction which is currently $109 a month. The biggest drain on Medicare is MEDICAID, which my Gov. has had to join with Pres. Obama, because there is no way our State could pay the cost of treating all of these people, which include many, many illegals in our State. Then, there are Seniors who are actually "poor" and can barely live on their S.S., because they have outlived their income, will be having even more deducted from their S.S., and the Pres. has already stated they will not receive a COLA this year or even in the future...when every cost has accellerated in just daily living....but their measly $15,500 a year doesn't qualify them for food stamps, or help from companies such as utilities in paying their bills. OBAMACARE HAS A LOT TO PROVE.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

GVJaneAz wrote:

Most "rich" people have Medicare, but th... (show quote)

Quid Pro Quo, GVJaneAz: Welcome to 1PP. In my book, OIllegal has had his chance and has proven beyond reasonable doubt that he is a Marxist/Muslim usurper out to destroy our country from within by his policies and attacks on capitalism. BTW, new ladies on 1PP get an Iris for their very own:

Fire Beard

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

irondoor827 wrote:

the people on medicare spend or use their ID to get so-called services that means they spend it on the rich

I am on medicare and I don't have the slightest idea what the hell you are talking about and I don't think you do either

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

alex wrote:

I am on Medicare and I don't have the slightest idea what the hell you are talking about and I don't think you do either

Quid Pro Quo, alex: Stonehinge livesinatree and you are right, doesn't have the slightest idea what he is talking about but runs his mouth anyway, brain disconnected. Folks on Medicare pay a monthly premium for their Medicare coverage, such as it is.

GVJaneAz Loc: Green Valley, Az.

Thank you. I look forward to seeing more discussion regarding Ted Cruz, who I believe would make a great President. I have heard he was born in Canada. Is that correct? If so, that would make him ineligible to run for the Presidency. I know one thing, and after the "O" finishes his devicive "rule", I would bet it will be a long time before the USA will return another Black to POTUS....who knew we were electing a racist. My sources from Stanford made predictions, but no one believed this "affable"...."boy"....would be what he is. One of these days he will call the WH his "crib" and really expose himself.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

GVJaneAz wrote:

Thank you. I look forward to seeing more discussi... (show quote)

Quid Pro Quo, GVJandAz: I have heard he was born in Canada also, which would make him ineligible to run for the Presidency, as also I believe would be Marco Rubio, as his parents did not become citizens until sometime after he was born in the United States. I'm not sure OIllegal plans on leaving office at the end of his second term.

OIllegal's Plan for his Future

GVJaneAz Loc: Green Valley, Az.

Rubio would be eligible, even though his parents were illegal. Same with a friend of mine born in England (Dad was military and she was not born in a military/US base...but in an England hospital)...she has duel citizenship, but had to go through the politics to actually be an American citizen.

I don't think Rubio can be elected. He gets confused even now, on some of his "facts". Hate to think of it, but I really believe until this Country has a real enema from the government...they will elect Hillary Clinton. The next 3 years will be telling...and with a miracle the voters will go back to the Republicans, but with people like McCain, et al...I doubt it very much.

easlygary

HOW DOES ONE WHO FEELS TOTAL DISGUST WITH TODAYS GOVERNMENT
READBOBOCARE IS BEST FOR AMERICA. HOW IGNORANT, STUPID, OBNOXIOUS, FART FOR BRAINS POLOSITES, REID AND BOBO SUCKERS ARE THERE AND HOW DID THEY GET RATIONED SO MUCH COOLAID. I AM A HATE MUNGER EITHER OF LIBERALS OR DEMOCRATS I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHICH. IF I AM AS STUPID AS THOSE WHO SCREWED UP MY COUNTRY I AM SO TIRED OF THE LIES. IF SOMEONE WILL JUST ADMIT TO THE LIES I THINK I WILL MAKE IT.....

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

GVJaneAz wrote:

Rubio would be eligible, even though his parents w... (show quote)

Quid Pro Quo, GVJaneAz: I believe Rubio's immigration involvement will put him on the ash heap of history with the conservative movement. I am hoping the Hillary's lies will catch up with her with the voting public over and above the 35 percent base totally brain dead drones. McCain, war hero that he was, is a political disaster. Opinion here.

GVJaneAz Loc: Green Valley, Az.

Kind of funny, in a way. :))) Well, their IS a difference, in Liberals and Progressives, but the "regular...I will always vote Democat Liberal" is just bullheaded. Where the "Progressive Democrat" is an outright Marxist. "Baby Boy" (which all Black Mothers seem to regard their sons, no matter how old) Obama (whose Mama seems to be "Me"-chelle) is as racist as they come, and I would consider her a prime candidate for Marxist of the year, whereas her "boy" is just a knock-off of his mentor Frank Davis...who by the way is that "boy's" Daddy as "O" resembles him more as he ages...and no where near BHO,Sr. Hope this helps you. HUGS!!! Calm down before you blow out a good brain.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

GVJaneAz wrote:

Kind of funny, in a way. :))) Well, their IS a dif... (show quote)

Quid Pro Quo, GVJaneAz: Much to our chagrin, we know a little of Obama's mother and her folks her in Kansas. They were for a while from around the El Dorado, KS area. When he was 10 in Indonesia his mother abandoned him to her folks, who were known socialist, then in Hawaii. The grand parents assigned him to a mentor, I believe it was Frank Davis as I recall, but in any case a mentor that was a card carrying communist. And, they also sent him to a socialist school outside Seattle. At least that is what I have read. And, Thanks for the kind words, notwithstanding you may have given me more credit than I deserve.

VAPOR

theoldguy44 wrote:

Everything coming from the White house is pure propaganda. Only a moron swallows that sort of pablum.

All morons are not liberals, most of the RINOS are liberals. BUT all liberals are morons or worse.

Yankee Clipper

blocklanes wrote:

The I.R.S. just wanted to make sure the Republicans lose the election. The IRS is supposed to be apolitical, however the Marxist/usurper has added them to the long list of bureaucracies he has corrupted. What's wrong with keeping the jackasses out of office?. I agree with you on this point, the Marxist/democrat party uses the jackass as a caricature of their party so I am sure I can count on you not support Marxist asses in future elections. Is that not correct?

The Republican hero's like Gingritch, Bachman, Cheney, Bush, and Palin make me sick. Oh, I forgot Trump and Perry. Your know nausea is a really miserable and sickening sensation, I would suggest you super size your barf bag when you check out your list of asses the Marxist/democrat have to offer. Don't you have at least one candidate that isn't stupid? Marxist talking point, no worthy of debate.

And look at the Republican policies. Abortion. Woman don't have a right to decide what to do about their bodies. It seems to me Roe vs Wade is the law of the land, and at last reading it allowed abortion on demand in all states.Gun Control. It's ok for a anyone to own a gun with no background check. If I am not mistaken we have unconstitutional background checks now. But, then you probably haven't read the Constitution and if you have you probably don't understand it. Health Ins. The hell with anyone that has no Insurance. If it were up to me there would be no health insurance available to anyone. Cash and carry. If you didn't have the cash or items of value to barter with, then you will have to negotiate terms and payments for your health services. It's not hard, and I have had to do so when I didn't have health insurance. No third party pay and prices will come down.

Let's take a look at the Marxist planks already adopted by both the Marxist/democrats and Rino Republicans. Most of this gabage was passed when Marxist/democrats controlled both houses Congress up and into the mid 90's. So don't try and blow smoke our ass about legislation that is damaging to the nation. I have included the 10 planks Karl Marx said would make a nation a Marxist state if the are passed into law.

TEN PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

Could this be happening in America? If so, how?

Our "elected representatives" have passed laws implementing these anti-freedom concepts. The communists have achieved a de facto FEDERAL SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT in America.

In 1848 Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote a book outlining a political ideology, titled "The Communist Manifesto". Marxism's basic theme is that the proletariat (the "exploited" working class of a capitalistic society) will suffer from alienation and will rise up against the "bourgeoisie" (the middle class) and overthrow the system of "capitalism." After a brief period of rule by "the dictatorship of the proletariat" the classless society of communism would emerge. In his Manifesto Marx described the following ten steps as necessary steps to be taken to destroy a free enterprise society!! Notice how many of these conditions, foreign to the principles that America was founded upon, have now, in 1997, been realized by the concerted efforts of socialist activists? Remember, government interference in your daily life and business is intrusion and deprivation of our liberties!

First Plank: Abolition of property in land and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. (Zoning - Model ordinances proposed by Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover widely adopted. Supreme Court ruled "zoning" to be "constitutional" in 1921. Private owners of property required to get permission from government relative to the use of their property. Federally owned lands are leased for grazing, mining, timber usages, the fees being paid into the U.S. Treasury.)

Second Plank: A heavy progressive or graduated incometax. (Corporate Tax Act of 1909. The 16th Amendment, allegedly ratified in 1913. The Revenue Act of 1913, section 2, Income Tax. These laws have been purposely misapplied against American citizens to this day.)

Third Plank: Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (Partially accomplished by enactment of various state and federal "estate tax" laws taxing the "privilege" of transfering property after death and gift before death.)

Fourth Plank: CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL EMIGRANTS AND REBELS. (The confiscation of property and persecution of those critical - "rebels" - of government policies and actions, frequently accomplished by prosecuting them in a courtroom drama on charges of violations of non-existing administrative or regulatory laws.)

Fifth Plank: Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (The Federal Reserve Bank, 1913- -the system of privately-owned Federal Reserve banks which maintain a monopoly on the valueless debt "money" in circulation.)

Sixth Plank: Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State. (Federal Radio Commission, 1927; Federal Communications Commission, 1934; Air Commerce Act of 1926; Civil Aeronautics Act of 1938; Federal Aviation Agency, 1958; becoming part of the Department of Transportation in 1966; Federal Highway Act of 1916 (federal funds made available to States for highway construction); Interstate Highway System, 1944 (funding began 1956); Interstate Commerce Commission given authority by Congress to regulate trucking and carriers on inland waterways, 1935-40; Department of Transportation, 1966.)

Seventh Plank: Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (Depart-ment of Agriculture, 1862; Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933 -- farmers will receive government aid if and only if they relinquish control of farming activities; Tennessee Valley Authority, 1933 with the Hoover Dam completed in 1936.)

Eighth Plank: Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies especially for agriculture. (First labor unions, known as federations, appeared in 1820. National Labor Union established 1866. American Federation of Labor established 1886. Interstate Commerce Act of 1887 placed railways under federal regulation. Department of Labor, 1913. Labor-management negotiations sanctioned under Railway Labor Act of 1926. Civil Works Administration, 1933. National Labor Relations Act of 1935, stated purpose to free inter-state commerce from disruptive strikes by eliminating the cause of the strike. Works Progress Administration 1935. Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, mandated 40-hour work week and time-and-a-half for overtime, set "minimum wage" scale. Civil Rights Act of 1964, effectively the equal liability of all to labor.)

Ninth Plank: Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country. (Food processing companies, with the co-operation of the Farmers Home Administration foreclosures, are buying up farms and creating "conglomerates.")

Tenth Plank: Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. (Gradual shift from private education to publicly funded began in the Northern States, early 1800's. 1887: federal money (unconstitutionally) began funding specialized education. Smith-Lever Act of 1914, vocational education; Smith-Hughes Act of 1917 and other relief acts of the 1930's. Federal school lunch program of 1935; National School Lunch Act of 1946. National Defense Education Act of 1958, a reaction to Russia's Sputnik satellite demonstration, provided grants to education's specialties. Federal school aid law passed, 1965, greatly enlarged federal role in education, "head-start" programs, textbooks, library books.

(Research source: Encyclopedia Britannica.)

Republicans will never win the Presidency again.Don't count your chickens before they are hatched.
Can you imagine Palin as President? She'd definitely be better than the Marxist/usurper and some other former presidents of both parties. For sure better than Carter. Someone who never read a book. Do you have proof that she never read a book or are you just repeating a Marxist/democrat talking point? I chose the latter, how about you?

The I.R.S. just wanted to make sure the Republican... (show quote)

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

CrazyHorse wrote:

Quid Pro Quo, GVJaneAz: Welcome to 1PP. In my book, OIllegal has had his chance and has proven beyond reasonable doubt that he is a Marxist/Muslim usurper out to destroy our country from within by his policies and attacks on capitalism. BTW, new ladies on 1PP get an Iris for their very own:

Harem gathering again? :shock:

Milton Loc: South Carolina

Union folks do not like when the facts come out. I was a DOD civil servant for 15 years and refused to be a part of the DNC money machine. You touched a nerve, thats all. Facts don't matter to the left or the unions.
Look at Detroit, unions were a big help there. Your comments were right on. The IRS is the new Brown Shirts and they are union.......