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Apr 27, 2021 00:38:02   #
JW
 
[quote=3507]...

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"... Trump's Corruption" ??? Accusations from anti-Trump sources. Let's see some proof???

"On corruption claims, Biden cites facts while Trump tosses ..."

"'Complete incompetence': Biden officials fume after Trump ... Noooo, Biden (a known liar who claimed a stellar law school rating but was actually at the bottom of his class)( a known plagiarizer) accusing Trump of corruption and incompetence... ohhh, say it isn't so.

"CNN reports that Biden officials were shocked to learn that former President Donald Trump and his team never bothered to develop a plan for distributing the vaccine for the novel coronavirus..."Part of your problem is not checking on your sources. Try this one https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-covid-vaccine-rollout-nears-million.html this was written Jan. 14. How, exactly, was it possible to distribute vaccines at the rate of a million a day without a plan?

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Those results suggest that the more corrupt and incompetent president might be Mr. Trump rather than Mr. Biden. Tens of millions of Americans think so.

That's why they voted for Mr. Biden rather than for Mr. Trump.

Or, to put it another way, the results from the votes, the audits of the votes, and recounts of the votes, and the courts and the election officials, all indicate that more people voted for Mr. Biden than voted for Mr. Trump, and that fits with the very plausible idea that most Americans think Mr. Trump is more corrupt and incompetent than is Mr. Biden. Search results? Really? Do a search on 'grey aliens'. What do those results tell you?

President Trump has been the target of unrelenting attacks, smears and libel since before his nomination. He is the most investigated person in human history and they found NOTHING.

There is public video of Biden bragging about strong arming/extorting the Ukraine; 'you want the billion dollars, fire the Prosecutor; you have 6 hours or no money".

A personal question from me to you; How can you be so ignorant of the facts and so superficial in perspective and still get your fork to your mouth to feed yourself.

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Apr 27, 2021 05:57:20   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
3507 wrote:
I'm surprised at your entire post, except for the detail that Mr. Trump "plays golf", which I'm sure is a true detail.

For more information, I looked at The Lancet, which I believe is a respected medical journal. It has a very lengthy article, not about the fitness of Trump or Biden themselves, but about the effects the presidential administrations have on the nation's health. (Mainly it focuses on the Trump administration's effects.) Here it is: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32545-9/fulltext#seccestitle300
(This link, when clicked, doesn't work directly for me but if I paste it (the whole thing, including the number 300 at the end) into a new window then it works.)

Here's the identifying information for the Lancet article, so it can be looked up independently:

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THE LANCET COMMISSIONS| VOLUME 397, ISSUE 10275, P705-753, FEBRUARY 20, 2021
PDF [2 MB]

Public policy and health in the Trump era

Published:February 10, 2021DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(20)32545-9
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For a comparison between the fitness of one president and another president, I finally settled on The Atlantic, a magazine that seems more assuredly respectable, and possibly less biased, or possibly less political, than the myriad of other sources that came up in my online search. (I didn't rely on the NY Times, for example, because I was sure that a lot of you here would call it politically biased.). Here's the article I found in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/what-should-we-know-about-the-presidents-health/608392/

The article says a little about Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump, but it's about many presidents, not just them.

Here's the identifying information for The Atlantic article, so it can be looked up independently:
"IDEAS
What Should We Know About the President’s Health?
Pundits and campaign operatives dissecting years of medical records would be only more fodder for political theater.
MARCH 20, 2020
Dhruv Khullar
Physician
"

Back to the Original Post questions:

Age limit for the presidency:

I agree with you (maryla) that it's hard to say, as it varies case by case. Also, the potential for a long, healthy, and productive life continues to increase -- though not evenly across the board for everybody -- the increase is mainly among the people with the resources and the habits to care for their own health.

Some 85-year-olds would be a lot better presidents than some of the prominent politicians who are much younger. If there is an age limit for the presidency, it should be pretty high, like maybe 85 or 90. Some people get wiser as they get older. Some get more experienced and more connected to other people who can help form a good government.

(Interestingly, not everyone _wants_ good government, but prefers to destroy the government.)

Term limits for Congress:

I think there should be term limits, but I don't know how long they should be. Reforming campaign finance, or reforming how campaigns are run, or how the media covers them, would probably help make a better Congress, more than changing term limits.
I'm surprised at your entire post, except for the ... (show quote)


The Atlantic AllSides Media Bias Rating: Lean Left
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/atlantic
Opinion: A Mom’s Research (Part 4): Why Are Many Elites Leftists?
“Why are all successful people leftists?” said my daughter, challenging me with a smile.
“Not all of them. Those leftists are just very loud,” I replied. I knew she meant Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, Bill Gates, and other powerful people who are trying to change the world according to their imagination.
I am also curious about one thing—why do these elites support communist radicals, while the radicals smash their stores and even put up a guillotine outside of Bezos’s house?
After reading quite a few insightful books, I learned that what is happening now is nothing new. Since the late 19th century, Western elites have been fascinated with communism and have supported its cause. In the pursuit of utopian ideals, traditional values have been trashed, America has been brought to the brink of socialism, and hundreds of millions of people around the world have been thrown into the bloodthirsty communist beast.
They [Lenin and Trotsky] created a revolution with no more than about 10,000 revolutionaries.
After the revolution … they [the Bolshiviks] could not operate the plants.
With Averell Harriman and the Chase National Bank and all friends on Wall Street, they go in there…. We have these 250–300 concessions with which American companies went into Russia, and they started up the idle plants…. All these top capitalists went in and they got Russia going on behalf of the Bolsheviks because the Bolsheviks either shot or kicked out all the people of Russia who would run the plants.”
“Stalin paid tribute to the assistance rendered by the United States to Soviet industry before and during the war. He said that about two-thirds of all the large industrial enterprises in the Soviet Union had been built with United States help or technical assistance.”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/a-moms-research-part-4-why-are-many-elites-leftists_3791887.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-04-26-3&mktids=d90cfe41f9debe78fe2c2215fd3a6806&est=TPGUAnruHqV9kj%2F2NMopbs7ZG%2BwrgjZ3%2F8ODengdOIR2xzvkw6GhCHfZ6fth

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Apr 27, 2021 06:16:10   #
Dwbill Loc: Sunvalley,NV
 
maryla wrote:
This is hard to say as its on a case by case basis.
Example 1: Biden He has had numerous conditions that have affected his mental capability to do the job. It is embarrassing when he attempts. I think it must be a Dem characteristic to go the costlier, less efficient way of getting things done. He is the oldest president I think and does little or no strenuous physical activity. on the other hand
2. Trump is also 80 and plays golf and is much more in shape, especially since his covid scare.

The thing here is that to be truly healthy, a time must be spent regularly to maintain one's fitness
This is hard to say as its on a case by case basis... (show quote)

Yes and what the hell does biden do for exercise ?fall up stairs ??

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Apr 27, 2021 06:37:32   #
Big Kahuna
 
dtucker300 wrote:
What we really need is a minimum IQ. Biden is the dumbest President and was the dumbest Senator and V.P. we have ever had.


If we have college entrance exams we should also have mandatory political entrance exams with a minimum score to hold any public office. 90% of our current group of inept politicians would flunk it and the country would be better served with those positions going vacant. Just don't let Dominion grade the exam or a progressive handle the scantrons.

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Apr 27, 2021 06:38:50   #
Big Kahuna
 
skyrider wrote:
From my observation of Congress , their term limit should be about 20 minutes.


And that could be 19 minutes too long.

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Apr 27, 2021 06:40:36   #
Big Kahuna
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
You have a serious problem if you think trump is 80 & in good shape. Trump is 74 and obese.


Obamma's personal doctor gave Trump an "A" on his presidential physical and mental exam. All other opinions don't t really matter.

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Apr 27, 2021 06:44:22   #
Big Kahuna
 
[quote=JW]
3507 wrote:
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"... Trump's Corruption" ??? Accusations from anti-Trump sources. Let's see some proof???

"On corruption claims, Biden cites facts while Trump tosses ..."

"'Complete incompetence': Biden officials fume after Trump ... Noooo, Biden (a known liar who claimed a stellar law school rating but was actually at the bottom of his class)( a known plagiarizer) accusing Trump of corruption and incompetence... ohhh, say it isn't so.

"CNN reports that Biden officials were shocked to learn that former President Donald Trump and his team never bothered to develop a plan for distributing the vaccine for the novel coronavirus..."Part of your problem is not checking on your sources. Try this one https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-covid-vaccine-rollout-nears-million.html this was written Jan. 14. How, exactly, was it possible to distribute vaccines at the rate of a million a day without a plan?

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Those results suggest that the more corrupt and incompetent president might be Mr. Trump rather than Mr. Biden. Tens of millions of Americans think so.

That's why they voted for Mr. Biden rather than for Mr. Trump.

Or, to put it another way, the results from the votes, the audits of the votes, and recounts of the votes, and the courts and the election officials, all indicate that more people voted for Mr. Biden than voted for Mr. Trump, and that fits with the very plausible idea that most Americans think Mr. Trump is more corrupt and incompetent than is Mr. Biden. Search results? Really? Do a search on 'grey aliens'. What do those results tell you?

President Trump has been the target of unrelenting attacks, smears and libel since before his nomination. He is the most investigated person in human history and they found NOTHING.

There is public video of Biden bragging about strong arming/extorting the Ukraine; 'you want the billion dollars, fire the Prosecutor; you have 6 hours or no money".

A personal question from me to you; How can you be so ignorant of the facts and so superficial in perspective and still get your fork to your mouth to feed yourself.
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Perm is at the top of the list when it comes to ig"orance".

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Apr 27, 2021 06:49:38   #
Big Kahuna
 
Dwbill wrote:
Yes and what the hell does biden do for exercise ?fall up stairs ??


I think Bribem is still swimming in the nude while his female Secret Service detail has to watch him. Slo Joe only does the backfloat and I think the Viagra he takes keeps him afloat. Of course hair sniffing of preteen girls is quite physically stressing and Slow Joe has mastered that.

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Apr 27, 2021 07:28:00   #
Dwbill Loc: Sunvalley,NV
 
drlarrygino wrote:
I think Bribem is still swimming in the nude while his female Secret Service detail has to watch him. Slo Joe only does the backfloat and I think the Viagra he takes keeps him afloat. Of course hair sniffing of preteen girls is quite physically stressing and Slow Joe has mastered that.



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Apr 27, 2021 07:53:14   #
PZG1225 Loc: Florida
 
maryla wrote:
This is hard to say as its on a case by case basis.
Example 1: Biden He has had numerous conditions that have affected his mental capability to do the job. It is embarrassing when he attempts. I think it must be a Dem characteristic to go the costlier, less efficient way of getting things done. He is the oldest president I think and does little or no strenuous physical activity. on the other hand
2. Trump is also 80 and plays golf and is much more in shape, especially since his covid scare.

The thing here is that to be truly healthy, a time must be spent regularly to maintain one's fitness
This is hard to say as its on a case by case basis... (show quote)


For the record, Trump is a very healthy 74!

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Apr 27, 2021 07:57:28   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
proud republican wrote:
Should there be an upper age limit to become POTUS? And I also add ....Should there be term limit for Congress people?


Yes to both... But not just term limits on congress, from SCOTUS all the way down to Mayors!! Six years done and not able to run for other offices or lobby.. Lobbyist should be abolished too!!

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Apr 27, 2021 08:00:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
skyrider wrote:
From my observation of Congress , their term limit should be about 20 minutes.



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Apr 27, 2021 11:07:46   #
agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa
 
skyrider wrote:
From my observation of Congress , their term limit should be about 20 minutes.


YUP !

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Apr 27, 2021 12:09:35   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
Totally agree. No need for these people to make a career out of fleecing the public.

A degree in "Political Science!!" You have to be kidding me!

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Apr 27, 2021 15:42:55   #
Big Kahuna
 
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
Totally agree. No need for these people to make a career out of fleecing the public.

A degree in "Political Science!!" You have to be kidding me!


Degrees in political science and global warming science are similar. Both are trash.

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