Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

EconomistDon

Sorry for the delay, SS. I actually have a life and am quite busy. I notice that you did quote that bologna, deep in the post that put me to sleep with its pabulum. Maybe you aren't far left, but you are certainly not center or moderate. Your Trump Derangement Syndrome blinds you to much truth. So sad.

If you really think that Wallace treated Trump fairly in the debate, go back and watch his attack on Trump concerning white supremacy. Like so many Trump haters, he had to take his turn asking Trump to denounce white supremacy. Well dah! Trump has denounced white supremacy and David Duke dozens of times. Trump haters treat him like a dog ordering him to sit up, roll over, denounce white supremacy, .... Trump needs a recording that he can play each time to save him the effort. So Trump denounced, but went on to ask why Wallace does not ask Biden to denounce radical extremists, especially Antifa and BLM who committed millions of dollars worth of looting, property damage, and murder this summer. Crickets from Wallace. But Biden piped up that Antifa is not an organization but an idea. WOW, guess what Joe, ideas don't loot, ideas don't burn buildings, and ideas don't murder.

SSDD

You don't have to be left AT ALL to see Trump for what and who he is. Many Republicans have turned out against him, long standing very conservative Republicans. The ONLY people that haven't turned out against Trump are the fringe right it would seem.

As for Trump denouncing white supremacists, yes, he has, though it is ALWAYS delayed, with great reluctance very milquetoast and never without lumping other groups into the denouncement as a way to "water down" the denouncement. Of course he knows as well as others do that a fair number of his supporters ARE members of fringe hate groups and a fair few more aren't but would still be put off if he singled out white supremacists, white nationalist among other fringe hate groups.

Tell me, why is it that Trump so readily and so frequently demonizes SOME groups but is so reluctant to even denounce others? As for David Duke, He in 1991 condemned David Duke after David Duke's failed Louisiana gubernatorial attempt, he condemned David duke again in 2000 When he said, "David Duke just joined, a bigot, a racist, a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party.", yet in 2016, Trump didn't know anything about David Duke? Weren't you people giving Biden flack for his supposed "Dementia"? Remind me what are some of the symptoms of dementia... Isn't forgetting people one of the signs of dementia? So... Either Trump lied in 2016, but then you people say he doesn't lie, or he has dementia, which one are YOU puttin' money on?

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CGaL7mqn20F/?utm_source=ig_embed (Trump's comments on Duke in 1991)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-K2kqRsmQ (Trump's comments on Duke in 2000)

So what happened to his memory in the 2016 interview excerpt below?

https://youtu.be/Gz2ETH8Gpr4?t=33 (Trump's Comments on Duke AFTER Duke endorses Trump in 2016)

He did later reluctantly denounce Duke, but he hesitated badly. Even Breitbart lambasted Trump on that one.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2016/02/28/donald-trump-has-known-about-klansman-david-duke-a-man-he-claimed-to-know-nothing-about-since-at-least-the-year-2000donald-trump-has-known-about-klansman-david-duke-a-man-he-claim/

But yes, you are right, Trump DID repeatedly denounce Duke, he just faltered when it counted. He DID eventually denounce Duke's support of him in 2016, but not nearly as quickly, harshly and strongly as he should have and that he had in the past. Of course one could expect it, he commented about Bush's denouncement of Duke as a mistake. The reason he considered it a mistake is that he thought it would lose Bush some of the Republican support, which is why Trump faltering on denouncing Duke in 2016 wasn't really any surprise, those that know Trump would have expected it. Which suggests that Trump was merely lying about not knowing anything about Duke.

So... Which is it? Is Trump a liar or suffering from dementia?

EconomistDon

Gee SS, 70 million people who voted for Trump are the far right fringe????????? It is so laughable that to you everyone with whom you disagree is the far right fringe. And every media outlet with which you disagree is fringe media. I think that Trump Derangement Syndrome has seriously scrambled your brain. You need to see a shrink. The boogieman from the right is coming for you.

Look pal, the radical right is to be condemned, but they are not the problem right now. The radical left IS the problem. Why can't you deniers admit that? Thousands of stores have been looted, millions in damage was inflicted on burned buildings, and people have been murdered by Antifa and BLM. Biden refused to condemn them because he knew they were an important part of his voting base. So stop making a big stinking deal about a couple votes from white supremacists. Trump made it clear that he did not care about their support, he condemned them. WHY CAN'T YOU, BIDEN, AND THE REST OF OUR HATEFUL DEMOCRATS DO THE SAME?

SSDD

Have you seen all the lunatic Trump supporters? Only have RW fringe media and the Trumplicans' stupidity and gullibility for that one.

Biden DID denounce them, but of course your preferred propaganda sources wouldn't tell you that. As for Trump making it clear... No, delayed denouncement, milquetoast condemnation at best and lumping in other groups with much harsher condemnation to water it down, that only makes it clear he supports them but has to appease the rest of the nation to minimal extent.


So, have you decided if Trump is a liar or senile? He went from knowing full well who David Duke was and what he was, then suddenly in 2016, dementia kicks in and he no longer knows anything about David Duke? Yeah, that sounds legit. About as Legit as Reagan's sudden case of amnesia regarding every detail of the Iran/Contra scandal.

American Vet

So your basic complaint is that Trump did not denounce as fast as you wanted him to - and you thought his response was too weak?

So exactly when should he have denounced racism? What do you think he should have said?

grumbledog

I voted for Biden because he doesn’t disrespect the American people. He spent 6 months telling voters that he had it made. He didn’t want to go to a rally in their town, holding a rally where people had to taken to a hospital due to frost bite or dehydration.
Trump was a weak leader always playing the victim.
Biden offers a leader who doesn’t want to credit for everything, but is willing to say he doesn’t have all the answers, but will listen to all points
Most importantly Biden doesn’t lie.

grumbledog

Correction to my post: I meant to Trump spent the last 6 months telling people he had it made

grumbledog

When should he denounce racism, how about years ago
Not when he says there were good people on both sides in Charlotte.
How about when him and his father was sued for Discrimination.
How about when he tried to paint every protestor as thugs and thievies

Do you really think that cares about minorities.

American Vet

Enjoy

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/09/18/fact-check-here-are-bidens-biggest-lies-from-his-cnn-town-hall-n942822

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/09/forget-the-gaffes-what-about-bidens-lies/

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/27/8-lies-by-joe-biden-and-the-left-that-twitter-didnt-fact-check/

https://vozwire.com/this-is-joe-bidens-long-well-documented-history-of-lies-to-the-public/

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

grumbledog

You mean like the the repuboobs refusal to even consider Judge Garland, but could work fast enough to get judge Barrett approved

Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge

White Supremacists loot, burn, murder, terrorize... Your Proud Boys are *standing by,* using the cover of the night and protests, and blaming it on the left. Most of us on the left just want to have a quality of life similar to the lives our parents.

Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge

Trump didn't condemn the white homegrown terrorists, ever.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia