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Nov 22, 2020 11:30:20   #
Rose42
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The fact remains - if anyone went through the extremely complex and expensive effort to rig voting machines............................why would they not have programed them to change votes for senate from repub to dem? Anyone with at least half a brain would realize that a biden win without control of the senate, is as worthless as a fire truck without hoses.


No it isn’t. He can write executive orders to his heart’s content. A
The KISS principle applies. Changing senate races too would be more complicated.

We’ll see. Soon the window will close so if they do have evidence now is the time to present it.

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Nov 22, 2020 11:49:35   #
Michael10
 
permafrost wrote:
You do believe a lot of stupid stuff.. are you sister to Rad???

The voting count went as the predicter said.. trumsters voted on the 3rd in person. dems voted early and by mail as they picked sides on the covid and that is exactly what happened. those votes got counted last and that also was per the expectations.. trump lost and as the bitching and recounting goes on the landslide for Biden becomes larger.. 6 million votes the orange loser lost by.. and increasing..


You can't explain logic to cult members, they only hear one voice, the cult leader.

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Nov 22, 2020 22:32:53   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Michael10 wrote:
You can't explain logic to cult members, they only hear one voice, the cult leader.


There have been many demonstrations as to how you can change the machine votes and how simple it is. Servers used by Dominion have been seized in Germany. The reason why has not been released. With all these questions, other irregularities, recounts and legal challenges remaining to be settled everyone, Democrats and Republicans, should just wait for the legal election processes to play out.

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Nov 22, 2020 23:06:34   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Then why when hand recounts were done did biden still win ,the answers is simple the software didn't switch any votes!
Apart from an apparent complete ignorance of how civil litigation works in the American court system, specifically evidence FOLLOWS discovery, it is astonishing how easily the power brokers and propaganda arm of the Progressive Socialist movement have dumbed down their collective masses into believing they are incapable of committing voter fraud.

Over 300 sworn affidavits by election employees under penalty of perjury have revealed instances of voter fraud large and small - from a citizen's discovery of a garbage bag in a dumpster filled with voting machine printouts of ballots marked for president Trump to the history of the Dominion voter system and Smartmatic software and how the algorithms were manipulated to alter or change votes. At present, 3 Dominion employees involved in the process have sworn affidavits to that effect.

Statisticians are among those who swore affidavits stating the statistical impossibility of president Trump's 700,000+ lead in PA on election night falling to 10,000 votes behind in less than 4 hours.

Two examples of filings out of hundreds:

(NOTE: in these two cases, Chief Judge Kenny failed to follow civil court procedure by disallowing expedited discovery and summarily dismissing the cases.

Judge Kenny denied the motion for preliminary relief stating that the plaintiffs' "interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible", with plaintiffs not fully comprehending the "absentee ballot tabulation process".)

You don't have to have sworn affidavits to file in civil court, and you certainly don't have to have a ton of evidence. The argument is, "On a reasonable basis in fact and law, I have enough information here to make an allegation, and we want the opportunity to pursue our law suit and conduct discovery - written discovery, document demands, depositions, witness lists, and we want this done quickly."
At this point, you can in fact get subpoenas.

Michigan: Constantino et al v. City of Detroit et al

November 9, 2020, Wayne County Michigan.

State of Michigan Third Judicial Circuit Court for the County of Wayne.
Circuit Court Judge Timothy Kenny Chief Judge Third Judicial Circuit Court of Michigan.

Plaintiff: CHERYL A. COSTANTINO and EDWARD P. McCALL, Jr.,

Plaintiff Attorney: David A. Kallman (P34200) Erin E. Mersino (P70886) Jack C. Jordan (P46551) Stephen P. Kallman (P75622) GREAT LAKES JUSTICE CENTER.

Case No. 20-014780-AW

Voter Fraud, Voter Integrity, Plaintiffs alleged election fraud, seeking to prevent the election results of Detroit and Wayne County from being certified.

Defendant: CITY OF DETROIT; DETROIT ELECTION COMMISSION; JANICE M. WINFREY, in her official capacity as the CLERK OF THE CITY OF DETROIT and the Chairperson of the DETROIT ELECTION COMMISSION; CATHY M. GARRETT, in her official capacity as the CLERK OF WAYNE COUNTY; and the WAYNE COUNTY BOARD OF CANVASSERS.

To wit:
1. The election was held on November 3, 2020 and approximately 850,000 votes were
reported as cast in Wayne County, Michigan.

2. Plaintiff brings this action to raise numerous issues of fraud and misconduct that
occurred in order to protect the rights of all voters in Michigan, especially Wayne County.

3.In summary, this Complaint raises numerous instances of fraud, including, but not limited to:

* Defendants systematically processed and counted ballots from voters whose name
failed to appear in either the Qualified Voter File (QVF) or in the supplemental
sheets. When voter’s name could not be found, the election worker assigned the
ballot to random name already in the QVF to person who had not voted.

* Defendants instructed election workers to not verify signatures on absentee ballots,
to backdate absentee ballots, and to process such ballots regardless of their validity.

* After election officials announced the last absentee ballots had been received,
another batch of unsecured and unsealed ballots, without envelopes, arrived in trays
at the TCF Center. There were tens of thousands of these absentee ballots, and
apparently every ballot was counted and attributed only to Democratic candidates.

* Defendants instructed election workers to process ballots that appeared after the
election deadline and to falsely report that those ballots had been received prior to
November 3, 2020 deadline - i.e., change the date on the ballot.

* Defendants systematically used false information to process ballots, such as using
incorrect or false birthdays. Many times, the election workers inserted new names
into the QVF after the election and recorded these new voters as having birthdate
0f 1/ 1/ 900.

* On daily basis leading up to the election, City of Detroit election workers and
employees coached voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. These
workers and employees encouraged voters to do straight Democrat ballot. These
election workers and employees went over to the voting booths with voters in order
to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote.

* Unsecured ballots arrived at the TCF Center loading garage, not in sealed ballot
boxes, without any chain of custody, and without envelopes.

* Defendant election officials and workers refused to record challenges to their
processes and removed challengers from the site if they politely voiced challenge.

After poll challengers started discovering the fraud taking place at the TCF Center,
Defendant election officials and workers locked credentialed challengers out of the
counting room so they could not observe the process, during Which time tens of
thousands of ballots were processed.

* Defendant election officials and workers allowed ballots to be duplicated by hand
without allowing poll challengers to check if the duplication was accurate. In fact,
election officials and workers repeatedly obstructed poll challengers from
observing. Defendants permitted thousands of ballots to be filled out by hand and
duplicated on site without oversight from poll challengers.


Michigan: Stoddard v. City Election Commission of the City of Detroit

November 4, 2020

State of Michigan Third Judicial Circuit Court for the County of Wayne.
Circuit Court Judge Timothy Kenny Chief Judge Third Judicial Circuit Court of Michigan.

Plaintiff: Sarah Stoddard and Election Integrity Fund.

Plaintiff Attorney: Edward D. Greim (pro hac forthcoming) Special Counsel, Thomas More Society
Missouri Bar No. 54034, GRAVES GARRETT, LLC. Ian A. Northon (P65082) RHOADES MCKEE PC

Case No. 20-014604-CZ

Voter Fraud, Voter Integrity, Plaintiffs, a Michigan poll observer and a nonprofit organization, allege that absentee vote count centers in Detroit do not have one inspector from each political party present, in violation of state law. Plaintiffs seek to halt the counting of absentee ballots until observers from both parties are present.

To wit:

1. This lawsuit challenges the ongoing action of the City Election Commission of the City of Detroit and the Detroit City Clerk with respect to one-party control of the Absent Voter Counting Board (“AVCB”) operating out of TCF Center (formerly known as Cobo Hall).

Specifically, individual inspectors from a single major political party are “curing” rejected absentee ballots – those absentee ballots that cannot be properly read by the electronic counting machine -- including transposing the voter’s perceived choices onto a new ballot, without the required oversight and signatures of two election inspectors—one from each major political party. These rejected absentee ballots are reviewed by only one inspector, in most cases a Democratic inspector, who then unilaterally decides how the voter intended to vote and creates a ballot that can be read reflecting the inspector’s unilateral decision.

2. This violates MCL 168.765a (10), which requires one inspector from each party to be present at the AVCB. It also violates the Secretary of State’s rule, as set forth in her controlling Election Officials’ Manual, requiring that any cured ballot bear the signature of two election inspectors who have expressed a preference for different political parties. See 168.765a(13). In application, this arrangement in the TCF Center fails to comply with Michigan law and invites fraud.

3. This action seeks an order: (a) halting further “curing” of absentee ballots rejected by the counting machines until one inspector from each party is present to observe the cure and sign the cured ballot; and (b) segregating the rejected and cured ballots; and (c) halting certification until the statutorily-required inspectors can be located and used to ensure election integrity.

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Nov 22, 2020 23:14:53   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Apart from an apparent complete ignorance of how civil litigation works in the American court system, specifically evidence FOLLOWS discovery, it is astonishing how easily the power brokers and propaganda arm of the Progressive Socialist movement have dumbed down their collective masses into believing they are incapable of committing voter fraud.

Over 300 sworn affidavits by election employees under penalty of perjury have revealed instances of voter fraud large and small - from a citizen's discovery of a garbage bag in a dumpster filled with voting machine printouts of ballots marked for president Trump to the history of the Dominion voter system and Smartmatic software and how the algorithms were manipulated to alter or change votes. At present, 3 Dominion employees involved in the process have sworn affidavits to that effect.

Statisticians are among those who swore affidavits stating the statistical impossibility of president Trump's 700,000+ lead in PA on election night falling to 10,000 votes behind in less than 4 hours.

Two examples of filings out of hundreds:

(NOTE: in these two cases, Chief Judge Kenny failed to follow civil court procedure by disallowing expedited discovery and summarily dismissing the cases.

Judge Kenny denied the motion for preliminary relief stating that the plaintiffs' "interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible", with plaintiffs not fully comprehending the "absentee ballot tabulation process".)

You don't have to have sworn affidavits to file in civil court, and you certainly don't have to have a ton of evidence. The argument is, "On a reasonable basis in fact and law, I have enough information here to make an allegation, and we want the opportunity to pursue our law suit and conduct discovery - written discovery, document demands, depositions, witness lists, and we want this done quickly."
At this point, you can in fact get subpoenas.

Michigan: Constantino et al v. City of Detroit et al

November 9, 2020, Wayne County Michigan.

State of Michigan Third Judicial Circuit Court for the County of Wayne.
Circuit Court Judge Timothy Kenny Chief Judge Third Judicial Circuit Court of Michigan.

Plaintiff: CHERYL A. COSTANTINO and EDWARD P. McCALL, Jr.,

Plaintiff Attorney: David A. Kallman (P34200) Erin E. Mersino (P70886) Jack C. Jordan (P46551) Stephen P. Kallman (P75622) GREAT LAKES JUSTICE CENTER.

Case No. 20-014780-AW

Voter Fraud, Voter Integrity, Plaintiffs alleged election fraud, seeking to prevent the election results of Detroit and Wayne County from being certified.

Defendant: CITY OF DETROIT; DETROIT ELECTION COMMISSION; JANICE M. WINFREY, in her official capacity as the CLERK OF THE CITY OF DETROIT and the Chairperson of the DETROIT ELECTION COMMISSION; CATHY M. GARRETT, in her official capacity as the CLERK OF WAYNE COUNTY; and the WAYNE COUNTY BOARD OF CANVASSERS.

To wit:
1. The election was held on November 3, 2020 and approximately 850,000 votes were
reported as cast in Wayne County, Michigan.

2. Plaintiff brings this action to raise numerous issues of fraud and misconduct that
occurred in order to protect the rights of all voters in Michigan, especially Wayne County.

3.In summary, this Complaint raises numerous instances of fraud, including, but not limited to:

* Defendants systematically processed and counted ballots from voters whose name
failed to appear in either the Qualified Voter File (QVF) or in the supplemental
sheets. When voter’s name could not be found, the election worker assigned the
ballot to random name already in the QVF to person who had not voted.

* Defendants instructed election workers to not verify signatures on absentee ballots,
to backdate absentee ballots, and to process such ballots regardless of their validity.

* After election officials announced the last absentee ballots had been received,
another batch of unsecured and unsealed ballots, without envelopes, arrived in trays
at the TCF Center. There were tens of thousands of these absentee ballots, and
apparently every ballot was counted and attributed only to Democratic candidates.

* Defendants instructed election workers to process ballots that appeared after the
election deadline and to falsely report that those ballots had been received prior to
November 3, 2020 deadline - i.e., change the date on the ballot.

* Defendants systematically used false information to process ballots, such as using
incorrect or false birthdays. Many times, the election workers inserted new names
into the QVF after the election and recorded these new voters as having birthdate
0f 1/ 1/ 900.

* On daily basis leading up to the election, City of Detroit election workers and
employees coached voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. These
workers and employees encouraged voters to do straight Democrat ballot. These
election workers and employees went over to the voting booths with voters in order
to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote.

* Unsecured ballots arrived at the TCF Center loading garage, not in sealed ballot
boxes, without any chain of custody, and without envelopes.

* Defendant election officials and workers refused to record challenges to their
processes and removed challengers from the site if they politely voiced challenge.

After poll challengers started discovering the fraud taking place at the TCF Center,
Defendant election officials and workers locked credentialed challengers out of the
counting room so they could not observe the process, during Which time tens of
thousands of ballots were processed.

* Defendant election officials and workers allowed ballots to be duplicated by hand
without allowing poll challengers to check if the duplication was accurate. In fact,
election officials and workers repeatedly obstructed poll challengers from
observing. Defendants permitted thousands of ballots to be filled out by hand and
duplicated on site without oversight from poll challengers.


Michigan: Stoddard v. City Election Commission of the City of Detroit

November 4, 2020

State of Michigan Third Judicial Circuit Court for the County of Wayne.
Circuit Court Judge Timothy Kenny Chief Judge Third Judicial Circuit Court of Michigan.

Plaintiff: Sarah Stoddard and Election Integrity Fund.

Plaintiff Attorney: Edward D. Greim (pro hac forthcoming) Special Counsel, Thomas More Society
Missouri Bar No. 54034, GRAVES GARRETT, LLC. Ian A. Northon (P65082) RHOADES MCKEE PC

Case No. 20-014604-CZ

Voter Fraud, Voter Integrity, Plaintiffs, a Michigan poll observer and a nonprofit organization, allege that absentee vote count centers in Detroit do not have one inspector from each political party present, in violation of state law. Plaintiffs seek to halt the counting of absentee ballots until observers from both parties are present.

To wit:

1. This lawsuit challenges the ongoing action of the City Election Commission of the City of Detroit and the Detroit City Clerk with respect to one-party control of the Absent Voter Counting Board (“AVCB”) operating out of TCF Center (formerly known as Cobo Hall).

Specifically, individual inspectors from a single major political party are “curing” rejected absentee ballots – those absentee ballots that cannot be properly read by the electronic counting machine -- including transposing the voter’s perceived choices onto a new ballot, without the required oversight and signatures of two election inspectors—one from each major political party. These rejected absentee ballots are reviewed by only one inspector, in most cases a Democratic inspector, who then unilaterally decides how the voter intended to vote and creates a ballot that can be read reflecting the inspector’s unilateral decision.

2. This violates MCL 168.765a (10), which requires one inspector from each party to be present at the AVCB. It also violates the Secretary of State’s rule, as set forth in her controlling Election Officials’ Manual, requiring that any cured ballot bear the signature of two election inspectors who have expressed a preference for different political parties. See 168.765a(13). In application, this arrangement in the TCF Center fails to comply with Michigan law and invites fraud.

3. This action seeks an order: (a) halting further “curing” of absentee ballots rejected by the counting machines until one inspector from each party is present to observe the cure and sign the cured ballot; and (b) segregating the rejected and cured ballots; and (c) halting certification until the statutorily-required inspectors can be located and used to ensure election integrity.
Apart from an apparent complete ignorance of how c... (show quote)


Blade, you know the leftists here will call it all misinformation, lies and made up hogwash. They cannot accept anything beyond what their masters tell them. If the situation were reversed, and it was Biden making these challenges, they would be 100% in support of him and screaming that he be allowed all legal avenues to protect his rights.

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Nov 23, 2020 07:16:02   #
Michael10
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Apart from an apparent complete ignorance of how civil litigation works in the American court system, specifically evidence FOLLOWS discovery, it is astonishing how easily the power brokers and propaganda arm of the Progressive Socialist movement have dumbed down their collective masses into believing they are incapable of committing voter fraud.

Over 300 sworn affidavits by election employees under penalty of perjury have revealed instances of voter fraud large and small - from a citizen's discovery of a garbage bag in a dumpster filled with voting machine printouts of ballots marked for president Trump to the history of the Dominion voter system and Smartmatic software and how the algorithms were manipulated to alter or change votes. At present, 3 Dominion employees involved in the process have sworn affidavits to that effect.

Statisticians are among those who swore affidavits stating the statistical impossibility of president Trump's 700,000+ lead in PA on election night falling to 10,000 votes behind in less than 4 hours.

Two examples of filings out of hundreds:

(NOTE: in these two cases, Chief Judge Kenny failed to follow civil court procedure by disallowing expedited discovery and summarily dismissing the cases.

Judge Kenny denied the motion for preliminary relief stating that the plaintiffs' "interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible", with plaintiffs not fully comprehending the "absentee ballot tabulation process".)

You don't have to have sworn affidavits to file in civil court, and you certainly don't have to have a ton of evidence. The argument is, "On a reasonable basis in fact and law, I have enough information here to make an allegation, and we want the opportunity to pursue our law suit and conduct discovery - written discovery, document demands, depositions, witness lists, and we want this done quickly."
At this point, you can in fact get subpoenas.

Michigan: Constantino et al v. City of Detroit et al

November 9, 2020, Wayne County Michigan.

State of Michigan Third Judicial Circuit Court for the County of Wayne.
Circuit Court Judge Timothy Kenny Chief Judge Third Judicial Circuit Court of Michigan.

Plaintiff: CHERYL A. COSTANTINO and EDWARD P. McCALL, Jr.,

Plaintiff Attorney: David A. Kallman (P34200) Erin E. Mersino (P70886) Jack C. Jordan (P46551) Stephen P. Kallman (P75622) GREAT LAKES JUSTICE CENTER.

Case No. 20-014780-AW

Voter Fraud, Voter Integrity, Plaintiffs alleged election fraud, seeking to prevent the election results of Detroit and Wayne County from being certified.

Defendant: CITY OF DETROIT; DETROIT ELECTION COMMISSION; JANICE M. WINFREY, in her official capacity as the CLERK OF THE CITY OF DETROIT and the Chairperson of the DETROIT ELECTION COMMISSION; CATHY M. GARRETT, in her official capacity as the CLERK OF WAYNE COUNTY; and the WAYNE COUNTY BOARD OF CANVASSERS.

To wit:
1. The election was held on November 3, 2020 and approximately 850,000 votes were
reported as cast in Wayne County, Michigan.

2. Plaintiff brings this action to raise numerous issues of fraud and misconduct that
occurred in order to protect the rights of all voters in Michigan, especially Wayne County.

3.In summary, this Complaint raises numerous instances of fraud, including, but not limited to:

* Defendants systematically processed and counted ballots from voters whose name
failed to appear in either the Qualified Voter File (QVF) or in the supplemental
sheets. When voter’s name could not be found, the election worker assigned the
ballot to random name already in the QVF to person who had not voted.

* Defendants instructed election workers to not verify signatures on absentee ballots,
to backdate absentee ballots, and to process such ballots regardless of their validity.

* After election officials announced the last absentee ballots had been received,
another batch of unsecured and unsealed ballots, without envelopes, arrived in trays
at the TCF Center. There were tens of thousands of these absentee ballots, and
apparently every ballot was counted and attributed only to Democratic candidates.

* Defendants instructed election workers to process ballots that appeared after the
election deadline and to falsely report that those ballots had been received prior to
November 3, 2020 deadline - i.e., change the date on the ballot.

* Defendants systematically used false information to process ballots, such as using
incorrect or false birthdays. Many times, the election workers inserted new names
into the QVF after the election and recorded these new voters as having birthdate
0f 1/ 1/ 900.

* On daily basis leading up to the election, City of Detroit election workers and
employees coached voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. These
workers and employees encouraged voters to do straight Democrat ballot. These
election workers and employees went over to the voting booths with voters in order
to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote.

* Unsecured ballots arrived at the TCF Center loading garage, not in sealed ballot
boxes, without any chain of custody, and without envelopes.

* Defendant election officials and workers refused to record challenges to their
processes and removed challengers from the site if they politely voiced challenge.

After poll challengers started discovering the fraud taking place at the TCF Center,
Defendant election officials and workers locked credentialed challengers out of the
counting room so they could not observe the process, during Which time tens of
thousands of ballots were processed.

* Defendant election officials and workers allowed ballots to be duplicated by hand
without allowing poll challengers to check if the duplication was accurate. In fact,
election officials and workers repeatedly obstructed poll challengers from
observing. Defendants permitted thousands of ballots to be filled out by hand and
duplicated on site without oversight from poll challengers.


Michigan: Stoddard v. City Election Commission of the City of Detroit

November 4, 2020

State of Michigan Third Judicial Circuit Court for the County of Wayne.
Circuit Court Judge Timothy Kenny Chief Judge Third Judicial Circuit Court of Michigan.

Plaintiff: Sarah Stoddard and Election Integrity Fund.

Plaintiff Attorney: Edward D. Greim (pro hac forthcoming) Special Counsel, Thomas More Society
Missouri Bar No. 54034, GRAVES GARRETT, LLC. Ian A. Northon (P65082) RHOADES MCKEE PC

Case No. 20-014604-CZ

Voter Fraud, Voter Integrity, Plaintiffs, a Michigan poll observer and a nonprofit organization, allege that absentee vote count centers in Detroit do not have one inspector from each political party present, in violation of state law. Plaintiffs seek to halt the counting of absentee ballots until observers from both parties are present.

To wit:

1. This lawsuit challenges the ongoing action of the City Election Commission of the City of Detroit and the Detroit City Clerk with respect to one-party control of the Absent Voter Counting Board (“AVCB”) operating out of TCF Center (formerly known as Cobo Hall).

Specifically, individual inspectors from a single major political party are “curing” rejected absentee ballots – those absentee ballots that cannot be properly read by the electronic counting machine -- including transposing the voter’s perceived choices onto a new ballot, without the required oversight and signatures of two election inspectors—one from each major political party. These rejected absentee ballots are reviewed by only one inspector, in most cases a Democratic inspector, who then unilaterally decides how the voter intended to vote and creates a ballot that can be read reflecting the inspector’s unilateral decision.

2. This violates MCL 168.765a (10), which requires one inspector from each party to be present at the AVCB. It also violates the Secretary of State’s rule, as set forth in her controlling Election Officials’ Manual, requiring that any cured ballot bear the signature of two election inspectors who have expressed a preference for different political parties. See 168.765a(13). In application, this arrangement in the TCF Center fails to comply with Michigan law and invites fraud.

3. This action seeks an order: (a) halting further “curing” of absentee ballots rejected by the counting machines until one inspector from each party is present to observe the cure and sign the cured ballot; and (b) segregating the rejected and cured ballots; and (c) halting certification until the statutorily-required inspectors can be located and used to ensure election integrity.
Apart from an apparent complete ignorance of how c... (show quote)


well Mr Lawyer. The Judges in all but one of the cases says they got nothing are bring frivolous suits and have no evidence. I think I'll listen to these judges

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