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Oct 18, 2020 08:18:56   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Then why are some babies born with genitalia for both sexes?


Who knows. Most people who have gender confusion are not in that group, or do you know different ?

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Oct 18, 2020 08:24:48   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
son of witless wrote:
Who knows. Most people who have gender confusion are not in that group, or do you know different ?


"Most people who have gender confusion are not in that group" How do you know?

Got a link?

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Oct 18, 2020 09:16:48   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Then why are some babies born with genitalia for both sexes?


Quick answer~~ A lack or deficiency of male hormones in a genetic male fetus can cause ambiguous genitalia, while exposure to male hormones during development results in ambiguous genitalia in a genetic female. Mutations in certain genes can influence fetal sex development and cause ambiguous genitalia too..

Hormones ~~

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Oct 18, 2020 09:16:54   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"Most people who have gender confusion are not in that group" How do you know?

Got a link?


A link for what ? That most trans folks were not born with genitals of both sexes ? Are you actually questioning that ? Well ????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Oct 18, 2020 09:38:12   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
son of witless wrote:
A link for what ? That most trans folks were not born with genitals of both sexes ? Are you actually questioning that ? Well ????????????????????????????????????????????????


Your statement, yes.

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Oct 18, 2020 09:44:24   #
Mikeyavelli
 
America 1 wrote:
Possible causes in genetic females
Causes of ambiguous genitalia in a genetic female may include:

Congenital adrenal hyperplasia. Certain forms of this genetic condition cause the adrenal glands to make excess male hormones (androgens).
Prenatal exposure to male hormones. Certain drugs that contain male hormones or that stimulate production of male hormones in a pregnant woman can cause developing female genitals to become more masculine. A developing baby also may be exposed to excess male hormones if the mother has a disease or condition that causes hormone imbalance.
Tumors. Rarely, a tumor in the mother can produce male hormones.
Possible causes in genetic males
Causes of ambiguous genitalia in a genetic male may include:

Impaired testicle development. This may be due to genetic abnormalities or unknown causes.
Androgen insensitivity syndrome. In this condition, developing genital tissues don't respond normally to male hormones made by the testes.
Abnormalities with testes or testosterone. Various abnormalities can interfere with the testes' activity. This may include structural problems with the testes, problems with production of the male hormone testosterone or problems with cellular receptors that respond to testosterone.
5a-reductase deficiency. This enzyme defect impairs normal male hormone production.
Ambiguous genitalia can also be a feature of certain rare, complex syndromes that affect many organ systems.

Risk factors
Family history may play a role in the development of ambiguous genitalia, because many disorders of sex development result from genetic abnormalities that can be inherited. Possible risk factors for ambiguous genitalia include a family history of:

Unexplained deaths in early infancy
Infertility, absent menstrual periods or excess facial hair in females
Genital abnormalities
Abnormal physical development during puberty
Congenital adrenal hyperplasia, a group of inherited genetic disorders that affect the adrenal glands
If your family has a history of these risk factors, consider seeking medical advice before trying to conceive. You may also benefit from genetic counseling.

Complications
Complications of ambiguous genitalia may include:

Infertility. Whether people with ambiguous genitalia can have children depends on the specific diagnosis. For example, genetic females with congenital adrenal hyperplasia usually can get pregnant if they so choose.
Increased risk of certain cancers. Some disorders of sex development are associated with an increased risk of certain types of cancer.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ambiguous-genitalia/symptoms-causes/syc-20369273
Possible causes in genetic females br Causes of am... (show quote)


Those aren't mental problems, like gynandry.

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Oct 18, 2020 09:47:55   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
lindajoy wrote:
Quick answer~~ A lack or deficiency of male hormones in a genetic male fetus can cause ambiguous genitalia, while exposure to male hormones during development results in ambiguous genitalia in a genetic female. Mutations in certain genes can influence fetal sex development and cause ambiguous genitalia too..

Hormones ~~
OK, so how do we deal with someone like "hair on fire" Witless?

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Oct 18, 2020 10:35:09   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Bad Bob wrote:
OK, so how do we deal with someone like "hair on fire" Witless?


His issue is different, he said: trans folks were not born with genitals of both sexes ?

I don’t know if they were or were not born with genitals of both sexes..
Typically Transgender people are people whose “gender identity“ is different from the gender they were thought to be at birth.

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Oct 18, 2020 12:01:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
lindajoy wrote:
His issue is different, he said: trans folks were not born with genitals of both sexes ?

I don’t know if they were or were not born with genitals of both sexes..
Typically Transgender people are people whose “gender identity“ is different from the gender they were thought to be at birth.



Really??? lWho keeps records of such things?

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Oct 18, 2020 12:21:46   #
Mikeyavelli
 
lindajoy wrote:
His issue is different, he said: trans folks were not born with genitals of both sexes ?

I don’t know if they were or were not born with genitals of both sexes..
Typically Transgender people are people whose “gender identity“ is different from the gender they were thought to be at birth.


Physical abnormalities are far different from mental disorders.

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Oct 18, 2020 13:23:06   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Your statement, yes.


Here is a link I found. According to them Transgender and Intersex are two different conditions. You seem to be deliberately mixing them together to muddy up the waters of discussion, or could I possibly be mistaken ?

https://isna.org/faq/transgender/

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Oct 18, 2020 13:29:09   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
permafrost wrote:
Really??? lWho keeps records of such things?


That’s the doctors treating the patients that fall in the category???

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Oct 18, 2020 13:29:56   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Physical abnormalities are far different from mental disorders.


Agreed....

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Oct 18, 2020 13:30:59   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
OK, so how do we deal with someone like "hair on fire" Witless?


" "hair on fire" Witless "

I am the voice of calm reason crying out in the vast wilderness of your mind. Depending which way the election goes in November, you really should cultivate every connection to normalcy that you can. Even if your boy Olde Joe wins, the excitement probably will not be good for you.

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Oct 18, 2020 13:35:57   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
lindajoy wrote:
That’s the doctors treating the patients that fall in the category???



Do you think we have many nut cases who pretend such a conflict? I can not even get my head around such thinking..

But I do know people can become very mixed in thinking..

I always considered only the physical deformity as this issue..

could be more to it I guess..

However, even the crazies should get equal rights,, not extended right though..

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