Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

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Nickolai

I've see this before in a viral E-mail I belive several times. It must be sometning conservatives like to send arounf to make them feel better. the basic message about the Scottish professor who lived 220 years ago back in pre industrial agarian age I heard 50-60 years ago and I've heard it over and over since then. We now are living ina post industrial era with totaly differant circumstances. The question we should be asking is----If our capitalist economic system can't get It done and creat jobs with a livable wage, then who????

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

Pre-industrial, industrial, post-industrial.....what does it matter?

Humans in power only seek one thing, more power!

It's up to the rest of us to balance that out.

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana

wishamako1

there just isn't any words to reply to your statement..1/26--1968

Nickolai

Yes that's another cliché that I've used my self to describe our descent back into another gilded age when the nations wealth was concetrated at the top with the masses at the bottom and a surken middle class. And I've been trying to warn people for the last 20 years but to no avail. in I said to my mother "mom I can't belive how far to the right this nations has moved over the last 20 years." She said I know and it'll keep going like that till the people can't take it no more." Mom is not with us now but things have gotten worse the rich are getting richer and the poor are geting drunk .

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

Yes....this may be true.

So you must be very pleased now that there are so many more poor and much fewer rich.

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

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Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

It is not only greed for power, but also the more money people have the more they want. Right now the disparity in wealth in this country is worse than 1929. As you say, "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

You are correct....and one must look at those in charge for this "disparity".

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

:thumbup: :thumbup: I just posted a new topic "who rules America" you might find interesting. Its a lot of reading, but I found it enlightening.

Nickolai

No I'm not at all pleased the largest middleclass in the world was created by the FDR New Deal but It has been systematicaly dismantled over the last 40 years. About the only thing left is Social Security, and FDIC. The ACA is the first social lesgeslation in 50 years and the yardbirds have been sqwaking their heads off over an idea that was htched i ntheir own think tank. The Heritage Foundation


It's just amazing the yard birds prefere living in an hour glasse society

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

I can respect your opinion, but reserve the right to not agree.

Nickolai

This chart tells the story and there is a lot more evidence of the comming collapse of the middle class

poppabear42

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You just made yourself a bigger idiot, than I thought you could possibly be.
But like my response to your first post, you do not have a clue (Just like your republican cronies) as to what we the people even means...
The adage of together we stand, divided we fall, means just that.
You can not just create a bunch of people, claiming that they are the job creators, and make them more important than anything, or anybody else in this country.
Remember this, the very same people that you love, and kiss all over, and make you laugh at the ballot box, just for a few votes.
Are the very same people that are going to make you cry.
Because republicans do not deal in reality, they live on fantasies, the major problem I have with their fantasies, is when it is time to pull out the crying towels, I want to keep my towel dry, and I don't want to cry with them.
The republicans have created a huge monster that even they can't control.
Pampering the rich, and republicans actually turning their backs on the real workers, and builders of this country, is going to make for a real wet crying towel debacle.

puterlove2

Why is that you crazy people,just decide to take back America?why you did not do this when crazy bush was in office? What are you afraid of/ this new black man is not going to kill you like you might need.




By TLB Contributor: Ken LaRive
(The Liberty Beacon ).

If you are unaware of the attack we are under I reccomend reading Dave Hodges at http://thecommonsenseshow.com/ to get up to speed.

To take back America from a strong government will not be easy. It will take a collective unity never seen before in America, and a savvy understanding of how the system works as well.

In the past most Americans took their standing orders from Government, going mostly without question to war, suffering quietly through designed economic fluctuations, and the systematic methodological breakdown of family by the disintegration of moral and ethical value instilled by television and Hollywood. This has ushered in a new characterization of individual responsibility, entitlement, and slavery. To take back our government, one who takes its standing orders from us collectively, has not yet been formulated.

If a person opposes the government by force, no matter what the principle, he could spend the rest of his life in Leavenworth, or be forced to flee the country. Any plot to violence is considered traitorous. To a true patriot, these options might seem unacceptable, as he would indeed die for the ideals this country was founded upon. From the onset, and emphatically so, violence is not advocated in any way by this author as a solution. And yet it should be recognized that to oppose government effectively might be a dangerous proposition on many fronts.

Government power will do anything to remain so, and that most Americans are not up to the challenge to thwart them seems evident. You see, rule of law and the voting booth are both tools and weapons, forged by intellect, free will, and our level of ability looks doubtful . Even after all we have been through as a nation, we are still advocating voting in men who were part of the original structure… incumbents.

In turn, our government takes its standing orders from international bankers, coordinated and orchestrated by the Federal Reserve. There is also a convergent network of conglomerate international businesses, and both have unlimited resources. Resources that can be used beyond the imagination to make their agendas reality, or to remain in power. They will use taboo, religious intolerance and interpretation, domestic and international false-flag operation, bogus information and contrived realism, and all without definable rules based on any code of law or moral value. They have the ability, by the use of media and press, to actually change and manipulate social norms for their purpose, by well developed physiological sciences that have come of age.

Our legal systems and constitution are at times bypassed and controlled by these international entities, and are no longer accountable ether to the American taxpayer or to what is left of the United States Government. They remain well hidden inside a dark glass, clouded by our own uneducated and inept ignorance, unreasoned fears, lazy and exhausted states of mind and spirit, and an overpowered mindset instilled by sustained subliminal messages that has incorporated us as consensual and conventional sheep. Our ability to think collectively has been destroyed by a manufactured abyss, separating and dividing us as a nation. We want change, but we have nothing to change into, nothing any better to displace the status quo, status quo ante bellum. And, have no doubt, we Americans are in a state of war, and from every direction.

Overpowered? A Cloward and Piven, Machiavellian plan for Marxism seems evident, as it was taught to Obama at Columbia. It is a well documented diagram to turn the United States into a socialist state by overwhelming the system, and it is working.

Cap and trade and new taxes on the rich are the redistribution of returns, universal health care and the unionization of millions of health-care workers coerce, manage, and cement 30 million voters to our new Socialistic State, under the thumb of big government. Making Puerto Rico the 51st state and the legalization of 12 million illegal aliens would increase entitlements and welfare over the top, as they too will be guided to the progressive fold.

The Patriot Act and the disregard for rights and liberties our forefathers died to protect is now standard fare. Stimulus and bailouts with unsecured monies printed by the Federal Reserve and flooded into a system without accountability dilutes our total worth to inflation, and we pay interest to them for the privilege.

An oil moratorium with a George Soros/Petrobras insider-trading connection with Brazil, and the billions borrowed from China to build a deepwater infrastructure there goes unreported but for the very fringe of journalism. And as we get deeper and deeper into Government growth and their control of our lives, US sovereignty is sacrificed, and our constitutional rights are shredded by increments into a New World Order designed by them.

A frozen press of silence indicates we no longer have a free press, as billions in bearer bonds are found in the false bottom of a suitcase on its way to Switzerland with their two Oriental carriers not detained, the lack of a proper birth certificate for our own president, an independent 9-11 report is stymied, and patriotic Tea Parties are blasphemed and slandered…

A desperate optimist might contend that if we do not stand fast now, we will indeed be at a point of no return. Some history analysts challenge that the point was reached in the middle seventies, some since before the last depression, and others that it was an illusion as far back as 1776.

One primary American trait that is a lasting strength is American optimism translated by our work ethics, and though this cannot be easily quelled, taking back America, even just dwelling on the idea, seems ultimately a lost cause in our present circumstances. Most historical realists would say that the primary obstruction for taking back America by the people would be a lack of sound and reliable leadership, with a plan of action worthy of the effort. Change, is not a viable unless it is for the better.

The next eleven essays will discuss who we are, and what options are available in the real world…

TLB: Parts 2 – 12 of this series will run daily for the next 11 consecutive days.
Links to 1 - 12 are at the bottom of this article.
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