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May 10, 2014 16:15:05   #
imp Loc: Mn.
 
Published April 24, 2014, filed under FREEDOM




By TLB Contributor: Ken LaRive
(The Liberty Beacon ).

If you are unaware of the attack we are under I reccomend reading Dave Hodges at http://thecommonsenseshow.com/ to get up to speed.

To take back America from a strong government will not be easy. It will take a collective unity never seen before in America, and a savvy understanding of how the system works as well.

In the past most Americans took their standing orders from Government, going mostly without question to war, suffering quietly through designed economic fluctuations, and the systematic methodological breakdown of family by the disintegration of moral and ethical value instilled by television and Hollywood. This has ushered in a new characterization of individual responsibility, entitlement, and s***ery. To take back our government, one who takes its standing orders from us collectively, has not yet been formulated.

If a person opposes the government by force, no matter what the principle, he could spend the rest of his life in Leavenworth, or be forced to flee the country. Any plot to violence is considered t*****rous. To a true patriot, these options might seem unacceptable, as he would indeed die for the ideals this country was founded upon. From the onset, and emphatically so, violence is not advocated in any way by this author as a solution. And yet it should be recognized that to oppose government effectively might be a dangerous proposition on many fronts.

Government power will do anything to remain so, and that most Americans are not up to the challenge to thwart them seems evident. You see, rule of law and the v****g booth are both tools and weapons, forged by intellect, free will, and our level of ability looks doubtful . Even after all we have been through as a nation, we are still advocating v****g in men who were part of the original structure… incumbents.

In turn, our government takes its standing orders from international bankers, coordinated and orchestrated by the Federal Reserve. There is also a convergent network of conglomerate international businesses, and both have unlimited resources. Resources that can be used beyond the imagination to make their agendas reality, or to remain in power. They will use taboo, religious intolerance and interpretation, domestic and international false-f**g operation, bogus information and contrived realism, and all without definable rules based on any code of law or moral value. They have the ability, by the use of media and press, to actually change and manipulate social norms for their purpose, by well developed physiological sciences that have come of age.

Our legal systems and constitution are at times bypassed and controlled by these international entities, and are no longer accountable ether to the American taxpayer or to what is left of the United States Government. They remain well hidden inside a dark glass, clouded by our own uneducated and inept ignorance, unreasoned fears, lazy and exhausted states of mind and spirit, and an overpowered mindset instilled by sustained subliminal messages that has incorporated us as consensual and conventional sheep. Our ability to think collectively has been destroyed by a manufactured abyss, separating and dividing us as a nation. We want change, but we have nothing to change into, nothing any better to displace the status quo, status quo ante bellum. And, have no doubt, we Americans are in a state of war, and from every direction.

Overpowered? A Cloward and Piven, Machiavellian plan for Marxism seems evident, as it was taught to Obama at Columbia. It is a well documented diagram to turn the United States into a socialist state by overwhelming the system, and it is working.

Cap and trade and new taxes on the rich are the redistribution of returns, universal health care and the unionization of millions of health-care workers coerce, manage, and cement 30 million v**ers to our new Socialistic State, under the thumb of big government. Making Puerto Rico the 51st state and the legalization of 12 million i*****l a***ns would increase entitlements and welfare over the top, as they too will be guided to the progressive fold.

The Patriot Act and the disregard for rights and liberties our forefathers died to protect is now standard fare. Stimulus and bailouts with unsecured monies printed by the Federal Reserve and flooded into a system without accountability dilutes our total worth to inflation, and we pay interest to them for the privilege.

An oil moratorium with a George Soros/Petrobras insider-trading connection with Brazil, and the billions borrowed from China to build a deepwater infrastructure there goes unreported but for the very fringe of journalism. And as we get deeper and deeper into Government growth and their control of our lives, US sovereignty is sacrificed, and our constitutional rights are shredded by increments into a New World Order designed by them.

A frozen press of silence indicates we no longer have a free press, as billions in bearer bonds are found in the false bottom of a suitcase on its way to Switzerland with their two Oriental carriers not detained, the lack of a proper birth certificate for our own president, an independent 9-11 report is stymied, and patriotic Tea Parties are blasphemed and slandered…

A desperate optimist might contend that if we do not stand fast now, we will indeed be at a point of no return. Some history analysts challenge that the point was reached in the middle seventies, some since before the last depression, and others that it was an illusion as far back as 1776.

One primary American trait that is a lasting strength is American optimism t***slated by our work ethics, and though this cannot be easily quelled, taking back America, even just dwelling on the idea, seems ultimately a lost cause in our present circumstances. Most historical realists would say that the primary obstruction for taking back America by the people would be a lack of sound and reliable leadership, with a plan of action worthy of the effort. Change, is not a viable unless it is for the better.

The next eleven essays will discuss who we are, and what options are available in the real world…

TLB: Parts 2 – 12 of this series will run daily for the next 11 consecutive days.
Links to 1 - 12 are at the bottom of this article.
http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/05/10/can-we-take-back-america-without-harming-her-part-12-of-12/

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May 10, 2014 16:32:57   #
grace scott
 
imp wrote:
Published April 24, 2014, filed under FREEDOM




By TLB Contributor: Ken LaRive
(The Liberty Beacon ).

If you are unaware of the attack we are under I reccomend reading Dave Hodges at http://thecommonsenseshow.com/ to get up to speed.

To take back America from a strong government will not be easy. It will take a collective unity never seen before in America, and a savvy understanding of how the system works as well.

In the past most Americans took their standing orders from Government, going mostly without question to war, suffering quietly through designed economic fluctuations, and the systematic methodological breakdown of family by the disintegration of moral and ethical value instilled by television and Hollywood. This has ushered in a new characterization of individual responsibility, entitlement, and s***ery. To take back our government, one who takes its standing orders from us collectively, has not yet been formulated.

If a person opposes the government by force, no matter what the principle, he could spend the rest of his life in Leavenworth, or be forced to flee the country. Any plot to violence is considered t*****rous. To a true patriot, these options might seem unacceptable, as he would indeed die for the ideals this country was founded upon. From the onset, and emphatically so, violence is not advocated in any way by this author as a solution. And yet it should be recognized that to oppose government effectively might be a dangerous proposition on many fronts.

Government power will do anything to remain so, and that most Americans are not up to the challenge to thwart them seems evident. You see, rule of law and the v****g booth are both tools and weapons, forged by intellect, free will, and our level of ability looks doubtful . Even after all we have been through as a nation, we are still advocating v****g in men who were part of the original structure… incumbents.

In turn, our government takes its standing orders from international bankers, coordinated and orchestrated by the Federal Reserve. There is also a convergent network of conglomerate international businesses, and both have unlimited resources. Resources that can be used beyond the imagination to make their agendas reality, or to remain in power. They will use taboo, religious intolerance and interpretation, domestic and international false-f**g operation, bogus information and contrived realism, and all without definable rules based on any code of law or moral value. They have the ability, by the use of media and press, to actually change and manipulate social norms for their purpose, by well developed physiological sciences that have come of age.

Our legal systems and constitution are at times bypassed and controlled by these international entities, and are no longer accountable ether to the American taxpayer or to what is left of the United States Government. They remain well hidden inside a dark glass, clouded by our own uneducated and inept ignorance, unreasoned fears, lazy and exhausted states of mind and spirit, and an overpowered mindset instilled by sustained subliminal messages that has incorporated us as consensual and conventional sheep. Our ability to think collectively has been destroyed by a manufactured abyss, separating and dividing us as a nation. We want change, but we have nothing to change into, nothing any better to displace the status quo, status quo ante bellum. And, have no doubt, we Americans are in a state of war, and from every direction.

Overpowered? A Cloward and Piven, Machiavellian plan for Marxism seems evident, as it was taught to Obama at Columbia. It is a well documented diagram to turn the United States into a socialist state by overwhelming the system, and it is working.

Cap and trade and new taxes on the rich are the redistribution of returns, universal health care and the unionization of millions of health-care workers coerce, manage, and cement 30 million v**ers to our new Socialistic State, under the thumb of big government. Making Puerto Rico the 51st state and the legalization of 12 million i*****l a***ns would increase entitlements and welfare over the top, as they too will be guided to the progressive fold.

The Patriot Act and the disregard for rights and liberties our forefathers died to protect is now standard fare. Stimulus and bailouts with unsecured monies printed by the Federal Reserve and flooded into a system without accountability dilutes our total worth to inflation, and we pay interest to them for the privilege.

An oil moratorium with a George Soros/Petrobras insider-trading connection with Brazil, and the billions borrowed from China to build a deepwater infrastructure there goes unreported but for the very fringe of journalism. And as we get deeper and deeper into Government growth and their control of our lives, US sovereignty is sacrificed, and our constitutional rights are shredded by increments into a New World Order designed by them.

A frozen press of silence indicates we no longer have a free press, as billions in bearer bonds are found in the false bottom of a suitcase on its way to Switzerland with their two Oriental carriers not detained, the lack of a proper birth certificate for our own president, an independent 9-11 report is stymied, and patriotic Tea Parties are blasphemed and slandered…

A desperate optimist might contend that if we do not stand fast now, we will indeed be at a point of no return. Some history analysts challenge that the point was reached in the middle seventies, some since before the last depression, and others that it was an illusion as far back as 1776.

One primary American trait that is a lasting strength is American optimism t***slated by our work ethics, and though this cannot be easily quelled, taking back America, even just dwelling on the idea, seems ultimately a lost cause in our present circumstances. Most historical realists would say that the primary obstruction for taking back America by the people would be a lack of sound and reliable leadership, with a plan of action worthy of the effort. Change, is not a viable unless it is for the better.

The next eleven essays will discuss who we are, and what options are available in the real world…

TLB: Parts 2 – 12 of this series will run daily for the next 11 consecutive days.
Links to 1 - 12 are at the bottom of this article.
http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/05/10/can-we-take-back-america-without-harming-her-part-12-of-12/
Published April 24, 2014, filed under FREEDOM br ... (show quote)




I don't like what you are saying. Some of it I agree with. Some I disagree with. Before I check our the link at the bottom of your page, I am going outside to my deck and sit on the wooden bench that was once a church bench, let the rain fall on me as I listen to the thunder and watch the lightening.

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May 10, 2014 17:14:03   #
Nickolai
 
imp wrote:
Published April 24, 2014, filed under FREEDOM




By TLB Contributor: Ken LaRive
(The Liberty Beacon ).

If you are unaware of the attack we are under I reccomend reading Dave Hodges at http://thecommonsenseshow.com/ to get up to speed.

To take back America from a strong government will not be easy. It will take a collective unity never seen before in America, and a savvy understanding of how the system works as well.

In the past most Americans took their standing orders from Government, going mostly without question to war, suffering quietly through designed economic fluctuations, and the systematic methodological breakdown of family by the disintegration of moral and ethical value instilled by television and Hollywood. This has ushered in a new characterization of individual responsibility, entitlement, and s***ery. To take back our government, one who takes its standing orders from us collectively, has not yet been formulated.

If a person opposes the government by force, no matter what the principle, he could spend the rest of his life in Leavenworth, or be forced to flee the country. Any plot to violence is considered t*****rous. To a true patriot, these options might seem unacceptable, as he would indeed die for the ideals this country was founded upon. From the onset, and emphatically so, violence is not advocated in any way by this author as a solution. And yet it should be recognized that to oppose government effectively might be a dangerous proposition on many fronts.

Government power will do anything to remain so, and that most Americans are not up to the challenge to thwart them seems evident. You see, rule of law and the v****g booth are both tools and weapons, forged by intellect, free will, and our level of ability looks doubtful . Even after all we have been through as a nation, we are still advocating v****g in men who were part of the original structure… incumbents.

In turn, our government takes its standing orders from international bankers, coordinated and orchestrated by the Federal Reserve. There is also a convergent network of conglomerate international businesses, and both have unlimited resources. Resources that can be used beyond the imagination to make their agendas reality, or to remain in power. They will use taboo, religious intolerance and interpretation, domestic and international false-f**g operation, bogus information and contrived realism, and all without definable rules based on any code of law or moral value. They have the ability, by the use of media and press, to actually change and manipulate social norms for their purpose, by well developed physiological sciences that have come of age.

Our legal systems and constitution are at times bypassed and controlled by these international entities, and are no longer accountable ether to the American taxpayer or to what is left of the United States Government. They remain well hidden inside a dark glass, clouded by our own uneducated and inept ignorance, unreasoned fears, lazy and exhausted states of mind and spirit, and an overpowered mindset instilled by sustained subliminal messages that has incorporated us as consensual and conventional sheep. Our ability to think collectively has been destroyed by a manufactured abyss, separating and dividing us as a nation. We want change, but we have nothing to change into, nothing any better to displace the status quo, status quo ante bellum. And, have no doubt, we Americans are in a state of war, and from every direction.

Overpowered? A Cloward and Piven, Machiavellian plan for Marxism seems evident, as it was taught to Obama at Columbia. It is a well documented diagram to turn the United States into a socialist state by overwhelming the system, and it is working.

Cap and trade and new taxes on the rich are the redistribution of returns, universal health care and the unionization of millions of health-care workers coerce, manage, and cement 30 million v**ers to our new Socialistic State, under the thumb of big government. Making Puerto Rico the 51st state and the legalization of 12 million i*****l a***ns would increase entitlements and welfare over the top, as they too will be guided to the progressive fold.

The Patriot Act and the disregard for rights and liberties our forefathers died to protect is now standard fare. Stimulus and bailouts with unsecured monies printed by the Federal Reserve and flooded into a system without accountability dilutes our total worth to inflation, and we pay interest to them for the privilege.

An oil moratorium with a George Soros/Petrobras insider-trading connection with Brazil, and the billions borrowed from China to build a deepwater infrastructure there goes unreported but for the very fringe of journalism. And as we get deeper and deeper into Government growth and their control of our lives, US sovereignty is sacrificed, and our constitutional rights are shredded by increments into a New World Order designed by them.

A frozen press of silence indicates we no longer have a free press, as billions in bearer bonds are found in the false bottom of a suitcase on its way to Switzerland with their two Oriental carriers not detained, the lack of a proper birth certificate for our own president, an independent 9-11 report is stymied, and patriotic Tea Parties are blasphemed and slandered…

A desperate optimist might contend that if we do not stand fast now, we will indeed be at a point of no return. Some history analysts challenge that the point was reached in the middle seventies, some since before the last depression, and others that it was an illusion as far back as 1776.

One primary American trait that is a lasting strength is American optimism t***slated by our work ethics, and though this cannot be easily quelled, taking back America, even just dwelling on the idea, seems ultimately a lost cause in our present circumstances. Most historical realists would say that the primary obstruction for taking back America by the people would be a lack of sound and reliable leadership, with a plan of action worthy of the effort. Change, is not a viable unless it is for the better.

The next eleven essays will discuss who we are, and what options are available in the real world…

TLB: Parts 2 – 12 of this series will run daily for the next 11 consecutive days.
Links to 1 - 12 are at the bottom of this article.
http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/05/10/can-we-take-back-america-without-harming-her-part-12-of-12/
Published April 24, 2014, filed under FREEDOM br ... (show quote)





This guy is as full of crap as a Christmas Turkey. What is needed is to take our country back from the Oligarch's. The military industrial complex that creat increasingly technologicaly complex and expensive weapons systems, and Wall Street investment banks that privitize the profits and socialize the losses. Otherwise the US is the least socialized and least Democratic country of all the worlds Democracies.

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May 10, 2014 18:27:52   #
Glaucon
 
imp wrote:
Published April 24, 2014, filed under FREEDOM




By TLB Contributor: Ken LaRive
(The Liberty Beacon ).

If you are unaware of the attack we are under I reccomend reading Dave Hodges at http://thecommonsenseshow.com/ to get up to speed.

To take back America from a strong government will not be easy. It will take a collective unity never seen before in America, and a savvy understanding of how the system works as well.

In the past most Americans took their standing orders from Government, going mostly without question to war, suffering quietly through designed economic fluctuations, and the systematic methodological breakdown of family by the disintegration of moral and ethical value instilled by television and Hollywood. This has ushered in a new characterization of individual responsibility, entitlement, and s***ery. To take back our government, one who takes its standing orders from us collectively, has not yet been formulated.

If a person opposes the government by force, no matter what the principle, he could spend the rest of his life in Leavenworth, or be forced to flee the country. Any plot to violence is considered t*****rous. To a true patriot, these options might seem unacceptable, as he would indeed die for the ideals this country was founded upon. From the onset, and emphatically so, violence is not advocated in any way by this author as a solution. And yet it should be recognized that to oppose government effectively might be a dangerous proposition on many fronts.

Government power will do anything to remain so, and that most Americans are not up to the challenge to thwart them seems evident. You see, rule of law and the v****g booth are both tools and weapons, forged by intellect, free will, and our level of ability looks doubtful . Even after all we have been through as a nation, we are still advocating v****g in men who were part of the original structure… incumbents.

In turn, our government takes its standing orders from international bankers, coordinated and orchestrated by the Federal Reserve. There is also a convergent network of conglomerate international businesses, and both have unlimited resources. Resources that can be used beyond the imagination to make their agendas reality, or to remain in power. They will use taboo, religious intolerance and interpretation, domestic and international false-f**g operation, bogus information and contrived realism, and all without definable rules based on any code of law or moral value. They have the ability, by the use of media and press, to actually change and manipulate social norms for their purpose, by well developed physiological sciences that have come of age.

Our legal systems and constitution are at times bypassed and controlled by these international entities, and are no longer accountable ether to the American taxpayer or to what is left of the United States Government. They remain well hidden inside a dark glass, clouded by our own uneducated and inept ignorance, unreasoned fears, lazy and exhausted states of mind and spirit, and an overpowered mindset instilled by sustained subliminal messages that has incorporated us as consensual and conventional sheep. Our ability to think collectively has been destroyed by a manufactured abyss, separating and dividing us as a nation. We want change, but we have nothing to change into, nothing any better to displace the status quo, status quo ante bellum. And, have no doubt, we Americans are in a state of war, and from every direction.

Overpowered? A Cloward and Piven, Machiavellian plan for Marxism seems evident, as it was taught to Obama at Columbia. It is a well documented diagram to turn the United States into a socialist state by overwhelming the system, and it is working.

Cap and trade and new taxes on the rich are the redistribution of returns, universal health care and the unionization of millions of health-care workers coerce, manage, and cement 30 million v**ers to our new Socialistic State, under the thumb of big government. Making Puerto Rico the 51st state and the legalization of 12 million i*****l a***ns would increase entitlements and welfare over the top, as they too will be guided to the progressive fold.

The Patriot Act and the disregard for rights and liberties our forefathers died to protect is now standard fare. Stimulus and bailouts with unsecured monies printed by the Federal Reserve and flooded into a system without accountability dilutes our total worth to inflation, and we pay interest to them for the privilege.

An oil moratorium with a George Soros/Petrobras insider-trading connection with Brazil, and the billions borrowed from China to build a deepwater infrastructure there goes unreported but for the very fringe of journalism. And as we get deeper and deeper into Government growth and their control of our lives, US sovereignty is sacrificed, and our constitutional rights are shredded by increments into a New World Order designed by them.

A frozen press of silence indicates we no longer have a free press, as billions in bearer bonds are found in the false bottom of a suitcase on its way to Switzerland with their two Oriental carriers not detained, the lack of a proper birth certificate for our own president, an independent 9-11 report is stymied, and patriotic Tea Parties are blasphemed and slandered…

A desperate optimist might contend that if we do not stand fast now, we will indeed be at a point of no return. Some history analysts challenge that the point was reached in the middle seventies, some since before the last depression, and others that it was an illusion as far back as 1776.

One primary American trait that is a lasting strength is American optimism t***slated by our work ethics, and though this cannot be easily quelled, taking back America, even just dwelling on the idea, seems ultimately a lost cause in our present circumstances. Most historical realists would say that the primary obstruction for taking back America by the people would be a lack of sound and reliable leadership, with a plan of action worthy of the effort. Change, is not a viable unless it is for the better.

The next eleven essays will discuss who we are, and what options are available in the real world…

TLB: Parts 2 – 12 of this series will run daily for the next 11 consecutive days.
Links to 1 - 12 are at the bottom of this article.
http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/05/10/can-we-take-back-america-without-harming-her-part-12-of-12/
Published April 24, 2014, filed under FREEDOM br ... (show quote)



When we get our rights back from our strong government, we will be totally controlled by the plutocracy. I don't want that and I agree that we have lost a lot of our influence on our democratic government and are losing more by the minute. Reform of our government should be our goal, not making it weaker so the wealthy and powerful will have complete control of us, a plutocracy.

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May 10, 2014 18:39:37   #
poppabear42
 
t***h;
The t***h is that in 2008- 2009, this country was quickly rotting from the top down.
We were fighting wars that was totally unnecessary, and created with lies, and intimidation,( WMD's,Mushroom clouds, and etc.).
It has been screamed from the rooftops, that Democrats v**ed for these wars too.
The ONLY reason Democrats did v**e for these debacles, is because like everyone else, they were lied to, and convinced that the B/S was true, even when bush was demanding billions of dollars to "Wink, wink" support our troops. I have one question about financing these wars.
If all of the money they conned from congress, by saying crap like...Even If you don't support the wars... it would be wrong to not support our troops... with the funding that he had to have... to insure the troops had everything they had to have to fight the war.
Where is that money? And with the economy going out of the world ass backwards, why did he cut the so called "Job creators" taxes?
Why did he charge his two wars to our credit cards, instead of using the billions of dollars, that he s**mmed out of congress?
Why were republicans so willing to just let our car industry die?
Why was every country outside of the United states h**e our guts?
These are just a few, of the of the multitude of very serious, and important questions that American citizens legally need answered.
So after bush finished nearly taking the country out of this world, ass backwards, along comes another bunch of lazy, lying republican i***ts, to finish up where bush left off.
I feel very justified with my ass-essment of the republican party.
This pack of assh++++ are unreal, but very dangerous, here is why...Because of their childish tantrums, they actually shut the government down, just because they could not stand to lose one of their toys, a toy they used to get v**es, just like they do everything else.
But the most dangerous situation they have ever put this country in, just because they are too damned lazy to actually earn their v**e.
Using the Koch bros. to buy their v**es, and selling their souls to people like them.
They haven't even won an e******n yet, but they are already interfering, and trying to throw their money around in Michigan to buy local e******ns...And this is just the beginning.
republicans are constantly saying that President Obama, is a C*******t, well surprise, surprise!!!
The Koch's are the real deal, and republicans are sucking on them like they are a bunch of two bit hoe's.
Just to get a few v**es.
Pitiful!!
I hope this is not the America that you are reminiscing about, if it is, take it someplace else.
And get the hell out of the way, so that President Obama can finish cleaning up this mess you republicans have made.

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May 10, 2014 18:47:36   #
Glaucon
 
Nickolai wrote:
This guy is as full of crap as a Christmas Turkey. What is needed is to take our country back from the Oligarch's. The military industrial complex that creat increasingly technologicaly complex and expensive weapons systems, and Wall Street investment banks that privitize the profits and socialize the losses. Otherwise the US is the least socialized and least Democratic country of all the worlds Democracies.


IMP, Don't let shiny things cause you to take your focus off of the Plutocracy as it removes the remaining of our rights and freedom. Government isn't the problem, it is all we Americans have to protect us from the complete take over by the Plutocrats.

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May 10, 2014 19:23:32   #
Nickolai
 
Glaucon wrote:
IMP, Don't let shiny things cause you to take your focus off of the Plutocracy as it removes the remaining of our rights and freedom. Government isn't the problem, it is all we Americans have to protect us from the complete take over by the Plutocrats.



The founders of the Republican Party the party they founded in 1856 would not help but be astonished at what their party has become. The party founded that was founded on Free labor has become a party of oligarchs and Plutocrats. And Obama visited Silicon Valley yesterday for a fund raiser and spoke from a Wall-Mart in Silicon Valley. The worlds largest Corporation and the worlds wealthiest family who pay their employees so poorly that their 4,200 stores cost the taxpayers between $950 thousand and$1.750 million dollars in assistance per store. Privatizing the profits and socializing the costs. :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 10, 2014 19:27:45   #
Glaucon
 
Nickolai wrote:
The founders of the Republican Party the party they founded in 1856 would not help but be astonished at what their party has become. The party founded that was founded on Free labor has become a party of oligarchs and Plutocrats. And Obama visited Silicon Valley yesterday for a fund raiser and spoke from a Wall-Mart in Silicon Valley. The worlds largest Corporation and the worlds wealthiest family who pay their employees so poorly that their 4,200 stores cost the taxpayers between $950 thousand and$1.750 million dollars in assistance per store. Privatizing the profits and socializing the costs. :thumbup: :thumbup:
The founders of the Republican Party the party the... (show quote)


You are right on and I hope others will come to understand what you have said. We can't continue to focus on silly things like Obama not being a citizen, and food stamps. We are loosing our government and our freedom and most of us are distracted from the real causes. Plutocracy.

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May 10, 2014 19:56:42   #
Nickolai
 
Glaucon wrote:
You are right on and I hope others will come to understand what you have said. We can't continue to focus on silly things like Obama not being a citizen, and food stamps. We are loosing our government and our freedom and most of us are distracted from the real causes. Plutocracy.


That's the whole point keep the people distracted with silly social wedge issues while the Plutocrats l**t the nation. They've built a whole infrastructure of foundations think tanks and media outlets to cement their power while Liberals have fiddled away for 40 years. Charles Krauthammer sees the death of liberalism because of the Affordable Health care Act. Well liberalism died 40 years ago and Obama Care is a Heritage Foundation idea from about 1992. Obama care was largely written by Industry lobbyists, not by liberals.

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May 10, 2014 19:59:50   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Nickolai wrote:
This guy is as full of crap as a Christmas Turkey. What is needed is to take our country back from the Oligarch's. The military industrial complex that creat increasingly technologicaly complex and expensive weapons systems, and Wall Street investment banks that privitize the profits and socialize the losses. Otherwise the US is the least socialized and least Democratic country of all the worlds Democracies.


Of course we are the "least" of "the worlds[sic] Democracies", as we are not a democracy. Civics 101, we are a Constitutional Republic.

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May 10, 2014 20:09:08   #
Glaucon
 
AuntiE wrote:
Of course we are the "least" of "the worlds[sic] Democracies", as we are not a democracy. Civics 101, we are a Constitutional Republic.


AntieE, That is a nit that is often picked, but has been pretty well picked over. I think we are a representative democracy, but there are things going on that are important and we need to attend to them: plutocracy. We know for sure plutocracies are not democracies and they take away our freedoms. Let's not get distracted by a nit.

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May 10, 2014 20:12:06   #
Nickolai
 
AuntiE wrote:
Of course we are the "least" of "the worlds[sic] Democracies", as we are not a democracy. Civics 101, we are a Constitutional Republic.




Technically you are right but since the Representatives represented the s***e owners in the south and the merchant class in the north while excluding native Americans, African Americans, women, indentured servants, and landless peasants the people fought for and won a moducum of democracy which is so easily lost. So over time we ( some of us) have come to belive that our nation is a Democratic Republic.

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May 10, 2014 22:45:55   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
poppabear42 wrote:
t***h;
The t***h is that in 2008- 2009, this country was quickly rotting from the top down.
We were fighting wars that was totally unnecessary, and created with lies, and intimidation,( WMD's,Mushroom clouds, and etc.).
It has been screamed from the rooftops, that Democrats v**ed for these wars too.
The ONLY reason Democrats did v**e for these debacles, is because like everyone else, they were lied to, and convinced that the B/S was true, even when bush was demanding billions of dollars to "Wink, wink" support our troops. I have one question about financing these wars.
If all of the money they conned from congress, by saying crap like...Even If you don't support the wars... it would be wrong to not support our troops... with the funding that he had to have... to insure the troops had everything they had to have to fight the war.
Where is that money? And with the economy going out of the world ass backwards, why did he cut the so called "Job creators" taxes?
Why did he charge his two wars to our credit cards, instead of using the billions of dollars, that he s**mmed out of congress?
Why were republicans so willing to just let our car industry die?
Why was every country outside of the United states h**e our guts?
These are just a few, of the of the multitude of very serious, and important questions that American citizens legally need answered.
So after bush finished nearly taking the country out of this world, ass backwards, along comes another bunch of lazy, lying republican i***ts, to finish up where bush left off.
I feel very justified with my ass-essment of the republican party.
This pack of assh++++ are unreal, but very dangerous, here is why...Because of their childish tantrums, they actually shut the government down, just because they could not stand to lose one of their toys, a toy they used to get v**es, just like they do everything else.
But the most dangerous situation they have ever put this country in, just because they are too damned lazy to actually earn their v**e.
Using the Koch bros. to buy their v**es, and selling their souls to people like them.
They haven't even won an e******n yet, but they are already interfering, and trying to throw their money around in Michigan to buy local e******ns...And this is just the beginning.
republicans are constantly saying that President Obama, is a C*******t, well surprise, surprise!!!
The Koch's are the real deal, and republicans are sucking on them like they are a bunch of two bit hoe's.
Just to get a few v**es.
Pitiful!!
I hope this is not the America that you are reminiscing about, if it is, take it someplace else.
And get the hell out of the way, so that President Obama can finish cleaning up this mess you republicans have made.
t***h; br The t***h is that in 2008- 2009, this c... (show quote)


I'm not a Repub....but you are extremely misguided and have made a foolish post.

Is Obama A Jinx Upon America?
May 9, 2014 by Wayne Allyn Root

Have you heard? China is set to pass America as the world’s No. 1 economy — this year.

For many years now, we’ve been told this day of reckoning was years, if not decades, away. We always knew it would come someday. But under the leadership and economic policies of President Barack Obama, it’s suddenly jumped way ahead of all previous projections.

What an embarrassment. The United States has had the unchallenged No. 1 economy in world since 1872 (when we passed the United Kingdom). Since 1872. Eighteen hundred and seventy-two. Let that sink in for a while.

One hundred and forty-two years of world dominance erased in only six years under one man’s leadership.

But wait. As an infomercial pitchman might say, “There’s much more.”

The same thing happening to the economy is happening to the American quality of life. Under Obama, for the first time in history our middle class isn’t No. 1 in the world. Canada’s middle class is now No. 1. And the entire rest of the world is catching up fast. Soon we’ll be No. 10, then No. 20. How low can we go?

The same thing is happening to entrepreneurs and small business. For the first time in history, businesses in America are being destroyed faster than they are starting. Amazing.

Under Obama, there are now more food-stamp recipients than the number of women working full-time in America.

Under Obama, the average full-time male employee now earns less (adjusted for inflation) than 40 years ago.

Under Obama, there are now 70 percent more Americans collecting entitlement checks than working in the private sector (148 million “takers” versus 86 million “makers”). This isn’t a conservative opinion. It’s a fact provided by the U.S. Census Bureau.

Under Obama, the number of working-age Americans not in the labor force is at all-time highs.

Under Obama, the workplace participation rate of men is the lowest in history.

Under Obama, the workforce participation rate of women is the lowest on record.

Under Obama, the workforce participation rate for b***k A******ns is the lowest in history.

More than 800,000 people dropped out of the workforce last month. That’s almost 1 million Americans who have given up… in a month.

Because millions of the unemployed have given up looking for work, the unemployment rate has dropped to 6.3 percent. Obama calls that good news. Heck, at this rate the whole nation might give up looking for a job by the time Obama leaves office; and he’ll report we have reached full employment.

One man – Obama — has done that much damage. So forget the debate over whether Obama is a radical Marxist intent on the destruction of capitalism and America or whether he’s an inexperienced, incompetent, economically ignorant megalomaniac.

Does it really matter?

Obama is like the old joke about a dying man lying in the hospital with his wife of 50 years:


Murray is lying on his death bed in a hospital room. His wife Ida sits by his side.

Murray says, “Ida, you’ve always been by my side.

“You were there when I flunked out of college.

“You were there when I was fired from my first job.

“You were there when I opened a business and it failed.

“You were there when I filed for bankruptcy.

“You were there when I was paralyzed in the car crash.

“Now you’re here by my side as I lay dying of cancer.

“I’ve given this a lot of thought.

“Ida, darling, you’re a jinx. Get the hell out of my hospital room!”

At some point, you just have to conclude that Obama is our jinx. It doesn’t matter if it’s on purpose, or by mistake. The man is ruining our lives, our economy, our jobs and, most importantly, our children’s future.

And by the way, it isn’t just America he’s brought bad luck to. Obama hasn’t exactly been a good-luck charm for the people of the EU, Israel, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea or Ukraine either.

Obama is quite simply a jinx. Bad news. A storm cloud from hell. A walking disaster. He destroys wh**ever he touches — except for China and Russia. Those two evil empires suddenly turned best friends forever are thriving. All of our losses appear to be their gains.

Remember when Obama leaned over and whispered to the President of Russia that after his re-e******n he’d have “more flexibility” to help out Putin? Don’t look now, but it’s happening exactly as Obama whispered. I’m just surprised he didn’t whisper in Russian.

It seems every country in the world has been badly damaged by the policies of Obama — except Russia and China. Our decline is their shining moment. Suddenly, the world is Putin’s oyster. Suddenly, our military is a feckless joke, incapable of stopping Russia’s expansion plans. Suddenly, our obsession with g***n e****y allows Russia’s economy to soar with energy revenues. Suddenly, our economy is stuck in reverse, while China’s economy explodes. Coincidence?

Funny how all this worked out. Makes you think, doesn’t it?

I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. See you next week. God bless America.
http://personalliberty.com/obama-jinx-upon-america/

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May 10, 2014 23:04:12   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
poppabear42 wrote:
t***h;
The t***h is that in 2008- 2009, this country was quickly rotting from the top down.
We were fighting wars that was totally unnecessary, and created with lies, and intimidation,( WMD's,Mushroom clouds, and etc.).
It has been screamed from the rooftops, that Democrats v**ed for these wars too.
The ONLY reason Democrats did v**e for these debacles, is because like everyone else, they were lied to, and convinced that the B/S was true, even when bush was demanding billions of dollars to "Wink, wink" support our troops. I have one question about financing these wars.
If all of the money they conned from congress, by saying crap like...Even If you don't support the wars... it would be wrong to not support our troops... with the funding that he had to have... to insure the troops had everything they had to have to fight the war.
Where is that money? And with the economy going out of the world ass backwards, why did he cut the so called "Job creators" taxes?
Why did he charge his two wars to our credit cards, instead of using the billions of dollars, that he s**mmed out of congress?
Why were republicans so willing to just let our car industry die?
Why was every country outside of the United states h**e our guts?
These are just a few, of the of the multitude of very serious, and important questions that American citizens legally need answered.
So after bush finished nearly taking the country out of this world, ass backwards, along comes another bunch of lazy, lying republican i***ts, to finish up where bush left off.
I feel very justified with my ass-essment of the republican party.
This pack of assh++++ are unreal, but very dangerous, here is why...Because of their childish tantrums, they actually shut the government down, just because they could not stand to lose one of their toys, a toy they used to get v**es, just like they do everything else.
But the most dangerous situation they have ever put this country in, just because they are too damned lazy to actually earn their v**e.
Using the Koch bros. to buy their v**es, and selling their souls to people like them.
They haven't even won an e******n yet, but they are already interfering, and trying to throw their money around in Michigan to buy local e******ns...And this is just the beginning.
republicans are constantly saying that President Obama, is a C*******t, well surprise, surprise!!!
The Koch's are the real deal, and republicans are sucking on them like they are a bunch of two bit hoe's.
Just to get a few v**es.
Pitiful!!
I hope this is not the America that you are reminiscing about, if it is, take it someplace else.
And get the hell out of the way, so that President Obama can finish cleaning up this mess you republicans have made.
t***h; br The t***h is that in 2008- 2009, this c... (show quote)


First thing Monday, you need to call your doctor, and tell him that your meds aren't working any more. How any sane human being could believe that Obama is any better than Bush is beyond belief.

Yes, Bush lied, and I thought he was bad for doing it, but Obama has proved that Bush wasn't the worst we could get. Crap, Obama even exceeds Jimmy Carter in stupid bungling.

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May 10, 2014 23:11:07   #
Brian Devon
 
Nickolai wrote:
This guy is as full of crap as a Christmas Turkey. What is needed is to take our country back from the Oligarch's. The military industrial complex that creat increasingly technologicaly complex and expensive weapons systems, and Wall Street investment banks that privitize the profits and socialize the losses. Otherwise the US is the least socialized and least Democratic country of all the worlds Democracies.




The GOP likes big government as long as it is the reverse Robin Hood type. This means stealing from the poor and middle class and giving it to people like the chickenhawk Dick Cheney and the CEOs and large shareholders of Halliburton, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Electric Boat, and Grumman.

Why should average Americans have enough to support themselves and their families and have health insurance.

The heartless Democrats would have you ignore the ultra-rich war pimps and deprive them of their private jets, yachts, third and fourth homes and mistresses. Talk about lack of empathy...

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