A Constitutional Crisis: Birth of Kamala Harris and Qualification for a VP (Page 3): Lonewolf... Trump was born on June 14, 1946, in the borough of Queens, New York City... Harris was...

JimMe

Lonewolf wrote:

All one has to do is be born hear she's far more American than trump

Lonewolf...

Trump was born on June 14, 1946, in the borough of Queens, New York City...
Harris was born on October 20, 1964, in Oakland, California...
They're both "Natural Born Citizens"...
Everyone who says different is wrong...

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

JimMe wrote:

Lonewolf...

Trump was born on June 14, 1946, in the borough of Queens, New York City...
Harris was born on October 20, 1964, in Oakland, California...
They're both "Natural Born Citizens"...
Everyone who says different is wrong...

Wrong, lies, and innuendo don't matter to those that support trump. Any lie that can detract from Trump's failures is game, no matter how degrading or disgusting.

JimMe

Tiptop789 wrote:

Wrong, lies, and innuendo don't matter to those that support trump. Any lie that can detract from Trump's failures is game, no matter how degrading or disgusting.

Tiptop789... You're wrong.

Rose42

Tiptop789 wrote:

Wrong, lies, and innuendo don't matter to those that support trump. Any lie that can detract from Trump's failures is game, no matter how degrading or disgusting.

They don't matter to you either rumitoid. That's what's so amusing.

kemmer

Radiance3 wrote:

The real Kamala Harris:
Kamala Harris has no integrity, an impostor, unreliable and deceptive. She spins where ever the wind blows in her favor. She used a knee pad to move her up. During the primary, she called Joe a "racist", and a sex predator. She hates Catholics, and suggested one time that Catholics do not fit for higher office. But now she praises Joe, a Catholic who was excommunicated from the Catholic Church due to his allegiance to PP abortions.

Born on Oct. 20, 1964, her parents with student visas were not yet citizens, and not yet considered permanent legal residence. She could be not be a VP based on a natural born citizen requirement. Natural born citizen used to be interpreted as those born in the US with US citizen parents. Recently been altered by many legal experts' interpretations and Court cases, that natural born are those born in the US. Therefore all anchor babies could assume the office of a VP or the president of the US?

These challenges started on when Barack Obama run for presidential office in 2008. So many Court cases cited and Court challenges that only born in the US regardless of foreign allegiance and status. I think "natural born" case must be clearly defined only by Congress legislative process and not by the Courts.
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Kamala Harris qualifies as an Anchor baby?
CORRUPTION, ELECTIONS, U. S. POLITICSAugust 12, 2020

Is Kamala Harris an illegal alien? She even fails the “anchor baby” test!
Kamala Harris fails even the “anchor baby” claim
Some Kamala-defenders claim she is an anchor baby and qualified for U.S. citizenship solely by her place of birth.

In the last 24 hours, our exposé of Kamala’s bogus citizenship claims, we have received some push back by an almost visceral “she’s an anchor baby!” reaction to the question of Kamala Harris’ citizenship. It should not be a question at all if Kamala were being sincere about her interest to serve the American public.

Given her father Donald’s resume, she looks like just another groomed recruit for the Pilgrims Society and their offspring at the U.N. and Council on Foreign Relations.

At best, the anchor baby concept is thin legal theory.
It takes a leap of logic to interpret the 13th Amendment to allow for citizenship by arguing that a newborn baby is under the jurisdiction of the U.S. at birth merely by virtual of his or her presence in the U.S.

Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”[10]

In 1898, the U.S. Supreme Court did take a precedent steps to clarify what “jurisdiction” meant in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898). The Wong circumstances were not dissimilar to Kamala’s whose father was a PhD graduate student at the University of California Berkeley.

In addition, every non-US parent of a baby born in the U.S. has natural citizenship rights for himself and his child based upon the citizenship laws of his home country. Those rights cannot be usurped just because a citizen is a student in America.

In Donald Jasper Harris’ case, that is Jamaica. Jamaican law is very clear about Kamala’s citizenship at birth:
“Every person born outside Jamaica shall become a citizen of Jamaica . . . on that the date of his birth.”

Section 3C(b), Citizenship by decent, Jamaica (Constitution) Order in Council 1962. (Jul. 25, 1962). Caribbean and North Atlantic Territories, Statutory Instruments, 1962 No. 1550, Amendments through 2011 appended. Queen Elizabeth and Privy Council.
India has a similar law if one chooses to focus on Kamala’s Indian mother’s citizenship instead. See Part II, Sec. 5, Citizenship. The Constitution of India. (Nov. 9, 2015). Government of India, Ministry of Law and Justice.
So, unambiguously, by the laws of citizenship in Donald’s Jamaica, Kamala was born with Jamaican citizenship.
The open question remains whether she is a dual citizen by virtue of her birth in the United States.

To answer this we must turn to the 14th Amendment and the Supreme Court’s clarification of “jurisdiction” in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898).
The Wong Kim Ark decision created a simple test for jurisdiction for which all the elements must be true before it applies:
1. Child was born in the U.S;
2. Birth parents are citizens of, and subject to the laws of, a foreign country;
3. Birth parents have “a permanent domicile and residence in the United States;”
4. Birth parents “are carrying on business;” and
5. Birth parents “ are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity” by the country of their citizenship”
This is Kamala’s test to qualify as an “anchor baby:”
1. Child was born in the U.S.?
YES, Kamala’s birth certificate says she was born at Kaiser Foundation Hospital at 9:28pm on Oct. 20, 1964
2. Birth parents are citizens of, and subject to the laws of, a foreign country;
YES, Kamala’s birth certificate shows that her father Donald is a citizen of Jamaica and her mother Gopalan is from India.
3. Birth parents have “a permanent domicile and residence in the United States;”
NO, a student residence is generally not considered a permanent domicile and residence. Rather, for a college student, for example, a home residence is considered his legal domicile while his student abode is temporary. For example, a student cannot list her student housing residence in another state in order to qualify for in-state tuition. Likewise, a student cannot claim a student address as permanent domicile to meet the Wong rule and enable his or her newborn to become a U.S. citizen!

When Kamala was 12, her mother moved Kamala and her sister to Canada for graduate work at McGill University. Kamala attended high school in Westmount, Quebec, graduating in 1981. Did she claim Canadian citizenship during that period? That would put her under the jurisdication of the British Crown with regard to the Wong test.

Occasionally, a student residence can be used as legal domicile, if the person has the provable intent to make it permanent. Even that was not the case with Donald Harris. Kamala was born in 1964. Donald received his PhD at Berkeley in 1966, two years later, then they moved to the University of Illinois (Asst. Prof., 1966-67), then Northwestern (Asst. Prof., 1967-68), then University of Wisconsin (Assoc. Prof., 1968-72), then Stanford (Econ. Prof., 1978-98). The evidence is clear that Donald had no intention of making his Berkeley address at the time of Kamala’s birth his legal domicile..

Therefore, Kamala does not qualify as a U.S. Citizen under Wong based on the domicile test.
4. Birth parents “are carrying on business;” and
NO. Donald Jasper Harris was a full time PhD student at Berkeley when Kamala was born. See also Kamala’s birth certificate. Therefore, Kamala does not qualify as a U.S. Citizen under Wong based on the business test.

5. Birth parents “ are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity” by the country of their citizenship”
NO, the evidence is clear that Donald Jasper Harris was working for the U.N. and Jamaican government. His resume is a litany of relationships to foreign governments: Shell Scholar (Jamaica), 1957; Issa Scholar (Jamaica), 1961; Faculty Fellow, Economics, Cambridge University, England, 1966; Ford Foundation Visiting Fellow, Delhi School of Economics, India, 1968; Associate Fellow, Clare Hall, Cambridge University, England, 1969, 1971; Distinguished Visiting Professor, Yale University, 1977-78; Associate Fellow, Trinity College, Cambridge University, England, 1982; National Research Council-Ford Foundation Fellow, 1984-85; Fulbright Scholar, Brazil, 1990, 1991; Fulbright Scholar, Mexico, 1992; Visiting Scholar, Inter-American Development Bank, Washington, DC, 1993-94.
Donald’s resume states “Consultant to international agencies (UN, UNCTAD, UNDP, IDB, World Bank), governments, and private foundations.”

Therefore, Kamala fails this test as well. Her father was indeed being directed by non-US powers, including the U.N., by virtue of not passing the “not a diplomat or official capacity” test.
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No proof of citizenship
Has Kamala become a naturalized American citizen?
She has produced no record of that, as was her duty the first time she ran for public office in California, and certainly is her duty now that she is the presumed Biden vice presidential running mate.

Put up, or shut up Kamala. We’re tired of having to dig around in your past because you are hiding secrets.
Grab your Kamala Harris independent media kit under the headline link below and spread around your information downline:
Biden picks not black-not eligible Kamala Harris as VP nominee.
Kamala Harris fails even the “anchor baby” claim Some Kamala-defenders claim she is an anchor baby and qualified for U.S. citizenship solely by her place of birth. In the last 24 hours, our exposé.

i The real Kamala Harris: br Kamala Harris has no... (show quote)

Where do you get that idiotic notion that Biden has been excommunicated?

Radiance3

kemmer wrote:

Where do you get that idiotic notion that Biden has been excommunicated?

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Biden, and Pelosi the hair do, are both excommunicated from taking the Holy Communion. I am a Catholic and I know why they are not allowed to receive Christ in their body. They are sinners approving and ordering the killing of babies.

So don't question me. You got up again early. Good day.
Here you are!

kemmer

Radiance3 wrote:

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Biden, and Pelosi the hair do, are both excommunicated from taking the Holy Communion. I am a Catholic and I know why they are not allowed to receive Christ in their body. They are sinners approving and ordering the killing of babies.

So don't question me. You got up again early. Good day.
Here you are!

Duh. Because some stupid priest refuses communion to someone, DOESN'T mean that person is excommunicated. That person simply goes to another parish having an intelligent priest.
Besides, a priest refusing communion to anyone has a lot of 'splainin' to do to his bishop.

Radiance3

kemmer wrote:

Duh. Because some stupid priest refuses communion to someone, DOESN'T mean that person is excommunicated. That person simply goes to another parish having an intelligent priest.
Besides, a priest refusing communion to anyone has a lot of 'splainin' to do to his bishop.

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NWR..this beast. Good day kemmer. Drain your brain with trash.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Rose42 wrote:

They don't matter to you either rumitoid. That's what's so amusing.

Actually, they do. In this election, tump is the con, the liar, the pretender. But to trump loyalists, all they see is someone they perceive to be a savior. The only one he's interested in saving is himself. His (you) supporters are being conned.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Radiance3 wrote:

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NWR..this beast. Good day kemmer. Drain your brain with trash.

Oh my, that's so clever. Lol, the jokes on you. I wonder if you believe in trump enough to have donated monetarily to his campaign?

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Radiance3 wrote:

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Biden, and Pelosi the hair do, are both excommunicated from taking the Holy Communion. I am a Catholic and I know why they are not allowed to receive Christ in their body. They are sinners approving and ordering the killing of babies.

So don't question me. You got up again early. Good day.
Here you are!

Your a Catholic & believe in trump? Wow, the Trump campaign must be the last stop before hell?

Rose42

Tiptop789 wrote:

Actually, they do. In this election, tump is the con, the liar, the pretender. But to trump loyalists, all they see is someone they perceive to be a savior. The only one he's interested in saving is himself. His (you) supporters are being conned.

No they don’t. And its amusing to see you calling someone a con artist and pretender when thats what you do.

Radiance3

Tiptop789 wrote:

Your a Catholic & believe in trump? Wow, the Trump campaign must be the last stop before hell?

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The antithesis of Christianity. The dumb communist democrats, godless, Marxist dictators.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Rose42 wrote:

No they don’t. And its amusing to see you calling someone a con artist and pretender when thats what you do.

You fail to grasp the difference between the things I say & the things & actions made by the president.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Radiance3 wrote:

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The antithesis of Christianity. The dumb communist democrats, godless, Marxist dictators.

Another idiotic makes no sense comment from you. Sentences should have a verb. When you write a sentence, it should convey a thought or idea, make a statement. Your do neither. We'll start easy. Bob ____ (loves, sees,likes) the color of the ____ (flag, car, horse). See if you can construct a proper sentence.