What would I (as President) do about Covid? (Page 2): Agree. Everyone has an agenda. Statistics tells us that a country the size of the U.S. with 330 million and 170,000 deaths Should...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Liberty Tree wrote:

One of the problems with the medical experts is that they have constantly changed positions on what to do. I would also insist on a uniform standard of reporting cases so there would be more valid statistics.

Agree. Everyone has an agenda. Statistics tells us that a country the size of the U.S. with 330 million and 170,000 deaths Should have way less deaths than China. However; China with a population of more than a billion people reports about 5000 deaths. Someone is lying, or both.

Liberty Tree

JFlorio wrote:

Agree. Everyone has an agenda. Statistics tells us that a country the size of the U.S. with 330 million and 170,000 deaths Should have way less deaths than China. However; China with a population of more than a billion people reports about 5000 deaths. Someone is lying, or both.

The numbers have never made sense and the way deaths have been determined leads to inflated reports of deaths attributed to COVID.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Liberty Tree wrote:

The numbers have never made sense and the way deaths have been determined leads to inflated reports of deaths attributed to COVID.

I can’t believe in less than 100 days we have let the Government and CDC turn the majority of Americans into sheeple. The Democrats want to double down on such nonsense. Mandatory masks, mandatory social distancing and more to come.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

woodguru wrote:

Unfortunately everything has to be shut down to get a handle on it so the economy and schools can open up safely.

How do governors and local governments get a handle when everything is opened up as "normal"? It takes total quarantine and identifying who has it. It's not rocket science, we did the quarantine and trump did not get the testing and tracing in gear, he didn't even try.

I live in California we gave been in shutdown pretty much from the start and we still high up in deaths numbers!

SilentGeneration Loc: Michigan

JFlorio wrote:

This will happen. CDC says mortality rate is between .2 and 1.5%. Pretty low all things considered and even less for kids. What’s the alternative? Millions of small businesses gone. Kids who aren’t socially experienced. Millions out of work and a broke govt. tracing Americans as to where they go and who they interact with. Not for me.

Death isn't the only concern. The overall death rate in comparison to the number of cases is low. A bigger concern is long term side effects. Another concern is spreading the virus among more at risk groups.

SilentGeneration Loc: Michigan

Simple Sam wrote:

WOW! Shut everything down? Talk about breaking a nation! But, perhaps that is what COVID was designed to do.

Other nations who shut down and mandated wearing masks were able to reopen successfully.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

JFlorio wrote:

First, I’d let Governors and local authorities han... (show quote)

I'd be all over Hydroxychloroquine in a New York minute. President Trump suggested it last March and he was excoriated for it.

Two nations - India and Uganda - are the most Malaria ridden countries on earth. Malaria is the leading cause of death in Uganda, and India makes up 75% of Malaria cases in all of SE Asia. Both countries have been using HCQ to treat Malaria. Since Covid struck both countries have experienced remarkable success with HCQ as a prophylaxis in preventing Covid infections and treating early cases.

Think about it. Uganda, with a population of 47 million, has recorded 1,848 cases and 19 deaths. That is less than one death per 100,000 people.

India, with 1.4 billion people, the second most populous country on earth, currently has 2,973,368 confirmed cases and 55,928 deaths. That is 3 deaths per 100,000 people.

California, with a population of 39.5 million, has 650,336 confirmed cases and 11,821 deaths. That is 30 deaths per 100,000 people.

SilentGeneration Loc: Michigan

Liberty Tree wrote:

One of the problems with the medical experts is that they have constantly changed positions on what to do. I would also insist on a uniform standard of reporting cases so there would be more valid statistics.

Medical positions were changed as doctors learned more about the virus and how it's spread.

Dirk Dig

Where is everything open? Fairyland?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

SilentGeneration wrote:

Death isn't the only concern. The overall death rate in comparison to the number of cases is low. A bigger concern is long term side effects. Another concern is spreading the virus among more at risk groups.

Exactly. So put resources towards the most at risk. There are more ways to die than Covid. Either let this virus run its course or live in fear, shutdowns, and a lower quality of life. I’ll take freedom.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

JFlorio wrote:

I can’t believe in less than 100 days we have let the Government and CDC turn the majority of Americans into sheeple. The Democrats want to double down on such nonsense. Mandatory masks, mandatory social distancing and more to come.

These lockdowns are dehumanizing us, J, the emotional and psychological impact of shutting down businesses, throwing millions out of jobs, closing schools, churches, recreation, entertainment, and forcing people into anonymity with masks is horrendous. And, it has put an enormous burden on health care pros and first responders. Children are having a really bad time.

Children at risk of lasting psychological distress from coronavirus lockdown.

American Psychological Association: Psychological impact of COVID-19
Know the signs of anxiety, panic attacks, depression and suicide.

Psychology Today: The Psychological Impact of COVID-19
Key points we are missing as a society.

No better way to control people than to dehumanize them.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

SilentGeneration wrote:

Other nations who shut down and mandated wearing masks were able to reopen successfully.

Some of those nations are the size of one of our states. The Chinese have been wearing masks for decades and they got the virus. Some of those countries stats are very suspect.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I agree. Can’t believe how terrified some of the people I talk to are. I won’t live like that.

Blade_Runner wrote:

These lockdowns are dehumanizing us, J, the emotio... (show quote)

archie bunker Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

Unfortunately everything has to be shut down to get a handle on it so the economy and schools can open up safely.

How do governors and local governments get a handle when everything is opened up as "normal"? It takes total quarantine and identifying who has it. It's not rocket science, we did the quarantine and trump did not get the testing and tracing in gear, he didn't even try.

Do we do that with all of the variations of the flu? Strep, staff infections?
And before you go all expert on me sandwich maker, I know the difference between viral, and bacterial infections.

This is a bunch of overblown bullshit.

Iliamna1

woodguru wrote:

Unfortunately everything has to be shut down to get a handle on it so the economy and schools can open up safely.

How do governors and local governments get a handle when everything is opened up as "normal"? It takes total quarantine and identifying who has it. It's not rocket science, we did the quarantine and trump did not get the testing and tracing in gear, he didn't even try.

Wrong, again .A LOT of the tests were, and are. faulty, especially those shipped from China, giving as much as 40% false positive (and negative results). You can do nearly as well with a coin toss.. Protective gear was another dilemma. There was a shortage brought about by the CHINESE having cornered the market on every face mask. Trump went into high gear and was working with AMERICAN factories to start making this equipment. What he did in regards to respirators was more amazing. New York and other cities ended up having superfluous supplies, but no Americans died due to a lack of a ventilator.