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Aug 17, 2020 20:41:34   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
debeda wrote:
Was that the device they were talking about for the border?


Could be. I saw it demonstrated and the test folks were moving to get away.

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Aug 17, 2020 21:02:48   #
debeda
 
Big dog wrote:
Time for solid metal projectiles.


Yep. And then we'll all be Hitler. I think we should start with the celebrities and politicians that "stand" or "kneel" with the mob. Cut off the heads and all that...

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Aug 17, 2020 21:03:19   #
debeda
 
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
Could be. I saw it demonstrated and the test folks were moving to get away.


Yeah that was pretty effective!

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Aug 17, 2020 21:21:29   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
We're talking about dampening the spirits of unruly mobs, suppressing a riotous crowd. Best I can tell, grandmothers don't generally participate in such behavior. If there is a grandma in the crowd throwing bottles or bricks, tough shit.

Takes around 4 or 5 minutes for a person to drown. Be rather difficult to drown someone with a water stream from a fire hose.

At our annual firefighters picnic, we had water fights. Big water fights with multi-purpose nozzles on 2-1/2 inch hoses supplied by fire pumps. Maybe 10 or 12 firefighters on each side. The objective was to disrupt the other team's ability to fight. The water streams were powerful enough to knock a man down. We got hit with lots of water but never came close to drowning anyone. The thought never crossed our minds.
We're talking about dampening the spirits of unrul... (show quote)



A person can drown in less than 60 seconds.

It has been reported that it only takes 20 seconds for a child to drown and roughly 40 seconds for an adult—and in some cases, it can take as little as a ½ cup of water to enter the lungs for the phenomenon to occur. Jul 9, 2019

The article deals with the drowning from submersion so five of the items aren't really applicable , items 2, 3 ,5 are the ones that are. In case of statement 2 if the person hit with the stream of water and inhales it can cause the dry drowning.
You are right though after 4 minutes , after inhaling water the body shuts down.
One question at the firefighter picnic were helmets used?

The eight truths about drowning;

1 This is the difinition of drowning it occurs when water enters the lungs from being in or below the water. It typically occurs in one of the two following manners:
A person will involuntarily take a breath and bring water into his or her airway—which ultimately closes it. With a lack of oxygen, a person becomes unconscious and water eventually fills the lungs.
A person will experience a laryngospasm, where the vocal chords spasm and seal that pathway. This can be seen in many drowning instances, especially when someone is trying to hold his or her breath underwater.

2 This is applicable dry drowning’ isn’t technically drowning. Instead, it’s a type of submersion injury in which water enters the larynx, but never actually enters the lungs. “In fact, it’s not even an official diagnosis,” Dr. Watkins adds. According to the pediatrician, it is a non-medical (or “slang”) term for this symptom of respiratory distress that occurs shortly after water enters the body through the nose or mouth.

3 Time frame for a person to drown is less than 60 seconds. It has been reported that it only takes 20 seconds for a child to drown and roughly 40 seconds for an adult

4 not applicable ,swallowing water is not drowning. “Sometimes you will notice that someone will exit a pool or the ocean and begin coughing and spitting out water,”

5 If coughing persists after 20-30 minutes, seek medical attention. If you notice that someone is coughing, vomiting, has trouble breathing, complains of tightness in the chest, has difficulty speaking and/or experiences any changes in levels of consciousness after being in the water, call 9-1-1. “A laryngospasm (or ‘dry drowning’) can progress rapidly,” he warns

6 If an individual appears to be breathing normally after exiting a body of water, you do not need to worry. Really not applicable.

7 Drowning is a real concern this is just a paragraph explaining the concern.

8 This list methods of prevention


https://www.hackensackmeridianhealth.org/HealthU/2019/07/09/8-truths-about-drowning-and-dry-drowning-revealed/
https://www.healthline.com/health/how-long-does-it-take-to-drown

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Sep 14, 2020 18:57:07   #
Boy from the Bronx
 
debeda wrote:
They might hurt the little darlings. This whole thing is so disgusting. The left simply will NOT accept the results of elections. Our country has been going down the tubes for 10 years. The conservatives voted out the miscreants they felt were causing our decline as a country. And the left has been raging ever since. They just continue to escalate. It is disgusting.


So these riots are happening because they can't or won't "accept the results of elections." That's odd, I thought it was because of what happened to George Floyd.

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Sep 14, 2020 19:03:54   #
debeda
 
Boy from the Bronx wrote:
So these riots are happening because they can't or won't "accept the results of elections." That's odd, I thought it was because of what happened to George Floyd.


Antifa has been demonstrating since the election. BLM was demonstrating, then stopped awhile, then started up again. Maxine Waters invited people to let conservatives know "they aren't welcome here. Conservatives have been fired, deplatformed and smeared, just for not toeing the dem narrative. Your statement was like a rhetorical joke, right?

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Sep 14, 2020 19:17:42   #
Ricktloml
 
debeda wrote:
Antifa has been demonstrating since the election. BLM was demonstrating, then stopped awhile, then started up again. Maxine Waters invited people to let conservatives know "they aren't welcome here. Conservatives have been fired, deplatformed and smeared, just for not toeing the dem narrative. Your statement was like a rhetorical joke, right?


Amen! George Floyd was the excuse de jour. Nothing says you protest violence like burning down your own neighborhood and depriving your neighbors of their businesses. And of course the propaganda press incited MORE violence

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Sep 14, 2020 20:58:34   #
debeda
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Amen! George Floyd was the excuse de jour. Nothing says you protest violence like burning down your own neighborhood and depriving your neighbors of their businesses. And of course the propaganda press incited MORE violence


Yep, exactly what happened 😖😖

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Sep 14, 2020 21:15:30   #
Big dog
 
debeda wrote:
Yep, exactly what happened 😖😖


Heck, these disedents are rioting in Pa. because tcops shot a guy charging the cop with a knife. WTF !?? Are the police supposed to just let these drug crazed sociopaths kill them ???
Shoot first, ask questions later !

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Sep 14, 2020 21:28:14   #
debeda
 
Big dog wrote:
Heck, these disedents are rioting in Pa. because tcops shot a guy charging the cop with a knife. WTF !?? Are the police supposed to just let these drug crazed sociopaths kill them ???
Shoot first, ask questions later !


Absolutely!! I wonder if we should start rioting for all the cops and conservatives they're injuring and killing???

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Sep 14, 2020 22:13:25   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
debeda wrote:
Absolutely!! I wonder if we should start rioting for all the cops and conservatives they're injuring and killing???


Great idea to attempt to teach a lesson but unfortunately that is exactly what they want to provide an excuse to continue rioting. Better to let the Feds handle it. Even though it seems like slow or zero progress at times. I do have faith in the administration that they will do it. Our job is to assure our president gets to continue. You full know what would happen if the Commies get in.

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Sep 14, 2020 22:28:07   #
debeda
 
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
Great idea to attempt to teach a lesson but unfortunately that is exactly what they want to provide an excuse to continue rioting. Better to let the Feds handle it. Even though it seems like slow or zero progress at times. I do have faith in the administration that they will do it. Our job is to assure our president gets to continue. You full know what would happen if the Commies get in.


I do know. And I have believed all along that the left has been trying to incite conservatives to take action against the mob, so they coul prop up their narrative of "white supremacists". Because the violence has continuously escalated since the election.

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