bggamers Loc: georgia

With so many police officers getting hurt why can't they move in the fire trucks and turn on the hoses it would knock them of their feet and police could move in and arrest them nonleathel way to crowd control. Why isnt it being used? what do you think?

debeda

They might hurt the little darlings. This whole thing is so d********g. The left simply will NOT accept the results of e******ns. Our country has been going down the tubes for 10 years. The conservatives v**ed out the miscreants they felt were causing our decline as a country. And the left has been raging ever since. They just continue to escalate. It is d********g.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Use any method to stop the nonsense.

jeff smith

because the bimbocratic mayors ang goveners wont let them .
when it come to the R****RS , i think that the police should be able to shoot some of them as being seen doing things , such as throwing frozen water bottles , stones , bricks and such . i would believe that such nonsense would quickly fade away . don't have to shoot to k**l . just shoot them in the ass or hip .

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

I want to play.

son of witless

The Left basically had their own security services in the CHOP zone. I do not see why private businesses cannot hire security to protect themselves. Small businesses would have to partner up.

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

It sounds like a good idea but the truck will have to be connected to a hydrant. It takes about 2 minutes for a truck to run out of water if you are using a 2 ½ inch line on the protesters. Connecting to a hydrant limits your movement. It was used on USMC Camp Pendlton one time at a r**t in the brig a number of years ago.

zombinis3 Loc: Southwest

Was used at one time but to many people were getting hurt and it didn't look to good for the agencies using it. Plus imagine a stream of water hitting a grandmother or a mother, which according to some of the clips being shown they are there. One last thing Firefighters aren't police officers and I don't think are protected by the police unions so if anything goes wrong what do you think is going to happen?

Some facts about the water pressure,

Home water pressure 40 to 45 pounds
Fire hose pressure is 80 pounds when using a 1 3/8 nozzle it can travel 220 ft when mounted on the ground travels 200 feet.
If the fire hose gets out of control it can hit with enough force to knock you off your feet , if it doesn't break the bones it hits. When that hose gets loose it will do damage to anyone or anything in the area.
A water cannon puts out enough pressure at 100 pounds to knock you off your feet when you are hit with the stream.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/t***sport/engines-equipment/water-cannon.htm
TN.gov Fireground Hydraulics
https://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/water-supply/nozzles/articles/5-things-firefighters-must-know-about-nozzles-ClqqVfNKWS0CDcCS/

Gatsby

Because the scumbags getting hosed down would retaliate against firemen everywhere?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Some years ago, we were dispatched to the university. Someone had triggered a fire alarm in a 4 story dorm. Our battalion chief, 3 engine and 1 ladder company answered the call. It was around 10pm, winter, 10 degrees F above zero. Cold, icy, lots of snow piled in berms.

The batt chief and two engine companies entered the dorm parking lot, the remaining engine and the ladder company stopped on the street. I was the tillerman on the ladder truck.

The chief ordered the two companies in the parking lot to evacuate the building.

Students in various stages of dress and undress began filling the parking lot and started harassing the firefighters. They got a bit violent, started throwing ice sickles, snow balls and full cans of beer at the troops.

I was sitting at the tiller waiting for orders when I got smacked upside the head with a full can of beer. Luckily, my helmet took the blow. The chief immediately ordered the two engine companies in the parking lot to fire up the pumps and deploy the reel hoses to give the malcontents a nice cold low pressure shower. Didn't have to knock any of them on their asses, but a good soaking in freezing temps took the steam right out of them.

A typical triple combo pumper carries 1000 gallons in its tank. That is more than enough water to send a message to r****rs. Moreover, a fire pump can generate discharge pressures up to 200psi. High pressure discharges are not necessary in crowd control situations.

debeda

zombinis3 Loc: Southwest

I know since there are multiple pressure type nozzles are available you don't need the high pressures. But it still holds that the amount of volume can cause possible drowning. Also like I mentioned earlier people will take offense when it is used against grandmother's.

Big Kahuna

Good question and even firefighters are recommending that technique. That is a lot of water pressure per square inch coming out of those hoses. It would knock the hell out of the l*****t r****rs. I'd prefer waterboarding to the criminal r****rs and would be happy to administer it myself.

Big dog

I’m all for the fire hose routine, always have been. And if that doesn’t work it’s time for lead.

currahee506

If you know the leadership, governor, mayor, etc. is breaking the law by not doing their duty, then if I was a police chief I would order the fire department to use this method. These r****rs are VC-dangerous and need to be caged.