Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

You bring up a valid point. When people talk over each other and the subject keeps getting changed and you jump from one subject to the next, questions and answers get missed. Interruptions during questioning is a conservative concept of "correct someone when they are wrong" however the concept has been long abandoned by conservatives due to the results of the Jerry Springer show where in the end the entertainment was not in finding wisdom but rather in people shouting at each other.

The conservative concept has lead to a more combative liberal technique where the conservative ends up repeating themselves and the liberal is offended at the answer that is repeated. And again either the subject is changed or the two enter combat. Either way the message is lost.

This went from conservatives to the Jerry Springer show into modern politics. Where it is not what you say but what you do and how you handle it.

One side looks for compassion while the other side looks at reason while both sides seek justice.

But truth lies in both.

zombinis3 Loc: Southwest

I have to disagree on that reasoning for this adminstration , whenever I catch
a meeting or a statement by the few in this adminstration the method is still being used. Which like you mentioned it does allow the message to be lost. And stops a conversation from being held , so if the method were to be no longer used the government might run a little better. Unfortunate that it is still being used. If it wasn't in use people will be able put aside their differences and have a decent chance of having a conversation which will proably give a stronger foundation for a better coexistence for all.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

I agree with most of your response but disagree with "..for this administration" for the reason that this administration is fighting fire with fire. And they're pretty good at it. For the opp would not have conservatives posting on here if it weren't true.

See conservatives are concerned with the government getting out of their lives. Why must they be in every aspect of our lives? But the Dems see the control and money in butting into our lives.

That's how it was for a long time. So the conservatives became apathetic. Until Obama became president. Then the conservatives started speaking out and Trump won.

Then he started making real change that we could see. And with great hatred the Dems tried to discredit him and destroy him and whosoever would support him. And when the question was asked, " why do you hate him so much" there was no formative direct answer instead it was suspicion and fear.

So here we are. Two schools of thought clashing and instead of coming to a compromise, the mud slinging gets worse, and our democracy suffers.

We need to sit down at the table and iron out our differences in such a way that we can all live in peace.

If you look back on the 2016 election you would find that Trump was always on the defense. He never attacked unless he was attacked upon.

With that said, I still don't understand why after all that has happened, I don't understand why we all can't come to the table and focus on the subject at hand. Instead they would rather Stonewall each other and that's pathetic.

So would you rather work with him or destroy the country? Both Dems and Republicans have good ideas too bad they would rather fight with each other than govern.

PeterS

That's bullshit. If Biden doesn't have dementia then he doesn't have a problem with his mental health. Biden has a problem with studdering but he has no problems with his mental acuity. And I would dearly love to listen to what speeches of Bidens that made you so worried about his mental health that you thought he should step down? And oh, btw, have you ever listened to one of Trump's rambling rants? You don't find any problems there but you do with Biden?

Don't talk to me about prejudice when you look at one man and see a problem but can't look at another man and see the same. Would that be because of your prejudice or perhaps you've never heard your president speak?

Again, let me repeat, you are being fed fallacies that you gobble up and swallow with gusto. Biden's dementia is being fed to you by right-wing opinion "news"...and it so 'distressed' you that you called for his resignation from the race. And please do feed me that bullshit that you listened to all of Biden's speeches. Trump can't get elected on his own merit so his lackeys are doing a hit job on Biden...and you being a good stooge are happy to lend a hand.

Rose42

You regurgitate propaganda. Whats the difference? You make as many stipid and dishonest statements as anyone on the far right.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

To oblige this post I'll have to start a whole new topic. The fact is that today's Biden is not yesterday's Biden and yes he should step down. If he got on the debate stage with Trump, Trump would chew him up and spit him out. Now I ask you are you sure that Biden would not have under the pressure?

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

"I'm a liberal and liberals are opposite conservatives every way I can think of."

Thank you for clearing that up! So if a conservative says anything at all you immediately take the opposite? That does explain the Liberal treatment of Trump rather well.

PeterS

The problem is, Trump isn't a conservative...

Rose42

And you're not a liberal either

PeterS

Trump can't link two sentences together.

"He's going to do things that nobody ever would ever think even possible because he's following the radical left agenda-- take away your guns, destroy your Second Amendment, no religion, no anything, hurt the Bible, hurt God. He's against God. He's against guns. He's against energy, our kind of energy."

He is just spewing LIES to peak your anger against Biden. Most Democrats are theists and Biden actually goes to Church because he wants to. He's never had to stage a scene holding a bible to make the point that he is a Christian. And "our kind of energy?" Take a drive through West Texas and you will see more windmills than oil rigs. Trump doesn't have a clue and he's betting that you conservatives don't have a clue. His rhetoric is atrocious and you believe him simply because you can't afford to.

Right now Trump is talking about Beirut and claiming that it was an attack when our intelligence agencies have come out and said it was an accident and what's worse is that he won't correct his statement even though it dangerous for both Lebanon and the US to allow people think that some nefarious force is out there attacking us.

Trump is a danger to this country and to the world at large. You talk about Joe Biden--a brain dead Joe Biden would be safer than an egocentric narcissistic manic with his finger on our nuclear weapons. Trump would start a war simply as a matter of ego. No matter how far Biden slipped he would never do something solely to satisfy his overblown ego...

PeterS

And what argument do you conservatives share with liberals? If you are going to make me the bad guy for being honest then demonstrate where we share the same principles with each other?

PeterS

I am more of a liberal then trump is a conservative. Trump says what you want to hear. That doesn't mean that he shares your ideology--it only means that he's an adept politician who knows how to play to his audience. When you look at Trump historically though, the only thing he really shares with Conservatives is their disdain for minorities, a propensity for fascism, and a belief in authoritarian government.

But prior to running for president he believed that women had a right to control their own bodies, was opposed to the wars that Republicans involved us in, and he wanted to end loopholes for the “very rich.” Was against trade deals that allow foreign “sweatshops” to steal American jobs. He backed “prevailing wages” for U.S. positions filled by foreigners with special visas. He supported universal health-care coverage and an “individual mandate.”

The majority of positions he has flipped on so as to appeal to the bias of Conservatives.

Rose42

No you aren't a liberal nor do you understand the first thing about conservatism. You merely repeat talking points.

Think your party is working for you? That's an illusion. They too are controlled by the rich. I didn't vote for Trump so you're wasting your time complaining about him. I don't listen to the far left talking points either. Its the same with every president. The other side compares them to Hitler, says we have a dictator in the making, etc,etc, etc. You like so many others need to wake up. Neither party is working for the people. We'll just continue the downward spiral that started before Trump and before Obama. Biden is no leader yet you democrats accept him as candidate. That shows you've learned nothing in the past three years.

Time to throw out both parties. Or you can continue to vote for failure.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

My God, man have you lost your senses completely?

Trump his whole life was moderate. He is the most moderate conservator the republican have ever supported. That's a fact. But you would rather fight him instead of work with him.

Trump leans towards the right but isn't radical right. And when working with the conservatives if you can't link sentences together or you can't speak facts within truth you can't be a conservative.

So now we are at an impasse. When any incident comes to be, there is a conservative view point, a liberal view point, and the raw incident. Somewhere in the three points of view is the truth.

That truth is what all points of view point to. In the case of George Floyd, all points of view agreed. It was murder and those responsible shall be held to justice.

Now nothing in matters of man solved by man are ever perfect. But both sides strive for perfection and sometimes the perfect answer in man's eyes is not always the right answer due to perception.

Donald Trump, like pick a saint, is not perfect and is far from perfect. His words are sometimes less than that perfect.

However his deeds are more perfect. Can't you see that? Or is your perspective still engulfed in an unexplainable hatred for the man? And if it is the latter then you allowed your haters to blind you from the simple truth.

And if you are blinded by the simple truth then you have experienced the true form of prejudice which is the source of discrimination and racism, and all of the isms you guys on the left preach against making you guys look like Hippocrates.

Now if that's the case you and your party lost your cause. And that is sad, for some of the principles you guys push for are good principles but you guy's hatred is destroying your own cause and you are blinded by it.

Trump fights against the liberals with the same energy he fights against the conservatives that's why Trump supporters like him and he does real things that make change possible.

So when you are tired of losing your freedom and decide to join us and Trump when you come to your senses, we can use you. I suggest you reevaluate your position.

I study history and no other president in the history of the US has ever dealt with this type of negative force and won.

Imagine what can be done if we join Trump's endeavor. Listen to John Lennon's imagine. Maybe you will understand. If not, know that all of this will pass away in 80 some odd days.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA