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For me, A Trump Supporter is like the person who argues Earth is flat or that 2+2=5: it is not an opinion or an insult to say they are wrong
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Aug 6, 2020 23:04:46   #
rumitoid
 
Sorry, I am tired of all the whining and pouting that what I share and have proved about Trump's extremely base character is just "h**e" and not accurate, again with supporting evidence; none of you ever disprove what I said just resort to the Right's default position of personal insult. I get that many of you h**e Liberals and foolishly agree with Trump about "f**e news," a disgraceful attack on one of the fundamental liberties that secures this country as a Republic. Ruin the faith and trust in a Free Press and kiss goodbye to this great nation. One of the many things about the Right here that makes me ill.

I simply present a video of a live and recorded interview of the president and Jonathan Swan--and none of you give an intelligent response over his bizarre and--Yes!--unhinged comments. The reason? You cannot defend the stunningly infantile, boldly petty, luxurious heartlessness, and just plain stupid comments by Trump. Please, show me,prove to me, I am wrong about that absurd and scary interview.

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Aug 6, 2020 23:19:23   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sorry, I am tired of all the whining and pouting that what I share and have proved about Trump's extremely base character is just "h**e" and not accurate, again with supporting evidence; none of you ever disprove what I said just resort to the Right's default position of personal insult. I get that many of you h**e Liberals and foolishly agree with Trump about "f**e news," a disgraceful attack on one of the fundamental liberties that secures this country as a Republic. Ruin the faith and trust in a Free Press and kiss goodbye to this great nation. One of the many things about the Right here that makes me ill.

I simply present a video of a live and recorded interview of the president and Jonathan Swan--and none of you give an intelligent response over his bizarre and--Yes!--unhinged comments. The reason? You cannot defend the stunningly infantile, boldly petty, luxurious heartlessness, and just plain stupid comments by Trump. Please, show me,prove to me, I am wrong about that absurd and scary interview.
Sorry, I am tired of all the whining and pouting t... (show quote)

Please post the interview again and I will attempt to be unbiased and let me express my view point and we can discuss our differences in view points. I can give you what you ask for and you can disagree with it all I ask is that since I'm putting my conservative views away you do the same with your liberal views and we review the matter. Are you game?

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Aug 6, 2020 23:29:58   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Flat Earther's are L*****ts...I know the gentleman who makes and sells Flat Earth Maps, Furniture and other
paraphernalia...He laughs when he tells me how much he makes off you c****e suckers.

And 2+2=5 is a luci-l*****t 'Common-Core' idea that was written by your l*****t's hero's 'William Ayers and his
Ugly Wife = Bernadine Dorhn

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Aug 7, 2020 00:13:10   #
PeterS
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sorry, I am tired of all the whining and pouting that what I share and have proved about Trump's extremely base character is just "h**e" and not accurate, again with supporting evidence; none of you ever disprove what I said just resort to the Right's default position of personal insult. I get that many of you h**e Liberals and foolishly agree with Trump about "f**e news," a disgraceful attack on one of the fundamental liberties that secures this country as a Republic. Ruin the faith and trust in a Free Press and kiss goodbye to this great nation. One of the many things about the Right here that makes me ill.

I simply present a video of a live and recorded interview of the president and Jonathan Swan--and none of you give an intelligent response over his bizarre and--Yes!--unhinged comments. The reason? You cannot defend the stunningly infantile, boldly petty, luxurious heartlessness, and just plain stupid comments by Trump. Please, show me,prove to me, I am wrong about that absurd and scary interview.
Sorry, I am tired of all the whining and pouting t... (show quote)

They are conservatives Rumi. They are raised on logical fallacies spun to them by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and other right-leaning talking heads. Wh**ever is fed to them Rumi is what they will believe--like it's Biden who has dementia even though it's Trump who shows all the classic signs. You can't get through to someone who thinks that logical fallacies are t***h. It's absolutely impossible and you would be wise not to even try...

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Aug 7, 2020 00:21:35   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
They are conservatives Rumi. They are raised on logical fallacies spun to them by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and other right-leaning talking heads. Wh**ever is fed to them Rumi is what they will believe--like it's Biden who has dementia even though it's Trump who shows all the classic signs. You can't get through to someone who thinks that logical fallacies are t***h. It's absolutely impossible and you would be wise not to even try...


You don't deserve this pete, because you are evil, vile, and a waste of or planets resources, but here you go. Good night bed wetter!



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Aug 7, 2020 00:23:54   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
PeterS wrote:
They are conservatives Rumi. They are raised on logical fallacies spun to them by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and other right-leaning talking heads. Wh**ever is fed to them Rumi is what they will believe--like it's Biden who has dementia even though it's Trump who shows all the classic signs. You can't get through to someone who thinks that logical fallacies are t***h. It's absolutely impossible and you would be wise not to even try...


That's a bit prejudice isn't it. You forget, I may have been against Clinton and Obama, and I may be for Regan, Bush and Trump. But in the 80s I stood up against the conservatives in the same manner that today I'm standing up against the liberals.

In today's society it is very hard to be true neutral, for if you are true neutral then you are a conservative because society has gone off the left deep end of the pool. However, I stood against the likes of Hilary Clinton as I did for many Priests, Bishops, and other preachers of the Christian faith.

I have not seen the video and am asking for a link, yet I have yet to see the link or the video that this topic used as fact.

Pete, I am against those liberals or conservatives who always put the cart before the horse. It was the conservatives that first taught me that life is not black and white for there are shades of gray. It was the liberals that exploited the shades of gray, but it was learning from the past and the Bible that showed me where the line was drawn.

Remember, Jesus Christ in His time was a liberal.

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Aug 7, 2020 00:27:33   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
They are conservatives Rumi. They are raised on logical fallacies spun to them by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and other right-leaning talking heads. Wh**ever is fed to them Rumi is what they will believe--like it's Biden who has dementia even though it's Trump who shows all the classic signs. You can't get through to someone who thinks that logical fallacies are t***h. It's absolutely impossible and you would be wise not to even try...

We don't need any so called talking heads...One only has to look at 'Your Own Corporate Sponsored L*****t Anarchist Congressional Directives to see how destructive all y'all home grown c****es are

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Aug 7, 2020 01:34:07   #
PeterS
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
That's a bit prejudice isn't it. You forget, I may have been against Clinton and Obama, and I may be for Regan, Bush and Trump. But in the 80s I stood up against the conservatives in the same manner that today I'm standing up against the liberals.

In today's society it is very hard to be true neutral, for if you are true neutral then you are a conservative because society has gone off the left deep end of the pool. However, I stood against the likes of Hilary Clinton as I did for many Priests, Bishops, and other preachers of the Christian faith.

I have not seen the video and am asking for a link, yet I have yet to see the link or the video that this topic used as fact.

Pete, I am against those liberals or conservatives who always put the cart before the horse. It was the conservatives that first taught me that life is not black and white for there are shades of gray. It was the liberals that exploited the shades of gray, but it was learning from the past and the Bible that showed me where the line was drawn.

Remember, Jesus Christ in His time was a liberal.
That's a bit prejudice isn't it. You forget, I may... (show quote)

You are against conservatives or liberals who put the cart before the horse...you just called for Biden to resign based on nothing more than doctored videos edited to show he has dementia. Didn't you just put the cart before the horse? Twitter and Facebook have both blocked videos accusing Biden of having dementia because they were proven to be manipulated.

Trump's whole campaign against Biden is nothing more than manipulated videos where he tries to paint his opponent in the worst possible light. Trouble is, Trump is the one who was asked by his doctors to take a cognitive test on dementia. He boasted about how wonderful his memory was because he could remember 5 things in a row remember.

Of course, we never did hear from a doctor on whether he passed or not or why he was asked to take the test in the first place. I mean, I assume there is a reason a doctor would ask someone who is under their care to take a test on dementia. It would only be fair to hear from said doctor on why he asked Donald to take such a test...don't you think?

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Aug 7, 2020 01:55:26   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
PeterS wrote:
They are conservatives Rumi. They are raised on logical fallacies spun to them by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and other right-leaning talking heads. Wh**ever is fed to them Rumi is what they will believe--like it's Biden who has dementia even though it's Trump who shows all the classic signs. You can't get through to someone who thinks that logical fallacies are t***h. It's absolutely impossible and you would be wise not to even try...


I sincerely hope that Rumi reads and heeds your last sentence! It would be a blessing for us! One gets really tired trying to set things straight after the many posts that seem to be way far from reality. Then again, you might take your own advice. A trait lefties appear to be extremely good at is to read or listen to the right's position, and immediately adopt exactly the opposite, never mind whether either way is true.

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Aug 7, 2020 02:36:34   #
PeterS
 
manning5 wrote:
I sincerely hope that Rumi reads and heeds your last sentence! It would be a blessing for us! One gets really tired trying to set things straight after the many posts that seem to be way far from reality. Then again, you might take your own advice. A trait lefties appear to be extremely good at is to read or listen to the right's position, and immediately adopt exactly the opposite, never mind whether either way is true.

Rumi is a big boy and can stand on his own two feet. If you think you have something you can pin on Rumi based on my statement--well, I would love to see you try to do it. And I've read a fair number of conservative posts and I have yet read one where they tried to set anyone straight. And I have never "immediately" adopted a position opposite anyone based solely on listening to their argument. I'm a liberal and liberals are opposite conservatives every way I can think of. There is no need to adopt an argument opposite anyone--it came with the territory...

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Aug 7, 2020 02:39:46   #
PeterS
 
Crayons wrote:
We don't need any so called talking heads...One only has to look at 'Your Own Corporate Sponsored L*****t Anarchist Congressional Directives to see how destructive all y'all home grown c****es are

If you don't need talking heads then why do you have them and more importantly why do you continually repeat what they say to you?

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Aug 7, 2020 04:41:52   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
PeterS wrote:
You are against conservatives or liberals who put the cart before the horse...you just called for Biden to resign based on nothing more than doctored videos edited to show he has dementia. Didn't you just put the cart before the horse? Twitter and Facebook have both blocked videos accusing Biden of having dementia because they were proven to be manipulated.

Trump's whole campaign against Biden is nothing more than manipulated videos where he tries to paint his opponent in the worst possible light. Trouble is, Trump is the one who was asked by his doctors to take a cognitive test on dementia. He boasted about how wonderful his memory was because he could remember 5 things in a row remember.

Of course, we never did hear from a doctor on whether he passed or not or why he was asked to take the test in the first place. I mean, I assume there is a reason a doctor would ask someone who is under their care to take a test on dementia. It would only be fair to hear from said doctor on why he asked Donald to take such a test...don't you think?
You are against conservatives or liberals who put ... (show quote)


I have listened to Biden"s rants, commentary and his speeches. I am not focused on fox news spliced news reals. I am listening to Joe's points and the points are all over the map.

Pete you assumed that I thought it was dementia. No I didn't think that way. I thought there was a problem. And that it has to do with his age, but I never once suspected dementia. Your showing your prejudice.

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Aug 7, 2020 08:32:17   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Please post the interview again and I will attempt to be unbiased and let me express my view point and we can discuss our differences in view points. I can give you what you ask for and you can disagree with it all I ask is that since I'm putting my conservative views away you do the same with your liberal views and we review the matter. Are you game?


Here are two that work the third is the full interview but that doesn't connect
With provided link so I used Swan Trump interview full in the search bar good luck.

Swan Trump interview
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-cognitive-test-trump-didnt-pass-internet-reacts-to-presidents-shocking-axios-interview-2020-08-04
https://www.axios.com/trump-c****av***s-under-control-5f114a16-9952-428c-bc07-3cfa360b0977.html

Watch "AXIOS on HBO: President Trump Exclusive Interview (Full Episode) | HBO" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/zaaTZk

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Aug 7, 2020 16:14:59   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
zombinis3 wrote:
Here are two that work the third is the full interview but that doesn't connect
With provided link so I used Swan Trump interview full in the search bar good luck.

Swan Trump interview
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-cognitive-test-trump-didnt-pass-internet-reacts-to-presidents-shocking-axios-interview-2020-08-04
https://www.axios.com/trump-c****av***s-under-control-5f114a16-9952-428c-bc07-3cfa360b0977.html

Watch "AXIOS on HBO: President Trump Exclusive Interview (Full Episode) | HBO" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/zaaTZk
Here are two that work the third is the full inte... (show quote)


Thank you for posting the interviews that are the basis of this topic. And while watching the interviews I notice that there are conflicting facts being circulated.

Because of conflicting facts which facts do you place weight on? Statistics from the White House which has the resources of the Federal government or the facts from the news media? Which one is more true?

The problem here is that both statistics and facts are correct and incorrect because a comparison is being made with different criteria used. Thus, the comparison being conducted compares apples to oranges.

Thus, the press calls Trump a liar and Trump calls the press dishonest. So it just falls back to who do you believe?

From a citizen view point, federal officers sent to protect a court house is an insult. From federal officals point if view we need more help because we are being attacked and local law enforcement is doing nothing.

Do you see that in the citizens point of view the criteria is different than the federal point of view?

Same holds true with the presses numbers and the white house numbers on the p******c.

Same holds true on the Russian bounty against American troops. Therefore these issues need to be vetted.

This is where I would say to Pete, "They're putting the cart before the horse" which seems to hold true to both the president and his enemies.

Is Trump cold and callus? No I did not see that in the interview. This was shown when the reporter asked about renaming the bridge in honor of John Lewis, Trump said in many words that he would not have a problem with.that.

So to honestly, and fairly, assess the situation, I see many people on the left, not taking the time to find the common denominator and instead using prejudice and jumping to conclusions based on that prejudice. The Dems need more patience.

Now once facts and statistics come in, we as a reader of those statistics have to interpret what we are reading. We as the reader then make up our own minds.

I for one believe Trump. But that is my opinion based upon the discreditable reporting on Trump. But I for one still attempt to verify because I don't trust either the media or the government because both were discredited before. And directly that is, not indirectly like the attacks on Trump have been.

The other issue which causes great dislike for Democrats and the media is the hatred and unfair treatment of Trump. Where the sediment is he brings it upon himself.

Conservatives, or liberals, Trump supporters or anti-Trump supporters, Democrats or Republicans in today's age are all hypersensitive. Where a Democrat says Trump is unfair a republican says the attacks are unfair.

Both are right because it was unfair in the beginning that is why Trump ran to social media. So if 10% of what Trump tours as accomplishments is true and this is with half the country fighting him. Imagine what could happen if everyone Democrat or Republican started working with Trump? What could happen?

Well, we do have a statistic on that. Trump shut down the country and everyone agreed and it happened in two weeks. Imagine how fast other causes could happen if the parties would work with him what could happen. Just imagine.

I hope I answered your premise question. I hope you can understand it as I'm seeing it. There is a place in this country for both conservatives and liberals and we can live in peace together. But as far as the Marxist thinking and c*******t thinking that is unacceptable for many proven reasons. As far as r****m, Robert E Lee never wanted a statue of himself, never wanted be hailed as a hero, because the ghosts of the past would haunt future generations. He was right and that's what we got to day. Therefore my advice to all would be let it go. What has been done in the past is in the past. Let it go back to the past. R****m was defeated in the past let it die in the past. I do not live in the past, I live in the present. Quit being up the ghosts of the past.

Well this was long and necessary but this is my take on all the issues covered in the video. Enjoy.

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Aug 7, 2020 20:03:08   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Thank you for posting the interviews that are the basis of this topic. And while watching the interviews I notice that there are conflicting facts being circulated.

Because of conflicting facts which facts do you place weight on? Statistics from the White House which has the resources of the Federal government or the facts from the news media? Which one is more true?

The problem here is that both statistics and facts are correct and incorrect because a comparison is being made with different criteria used. Thus, the comparison being conducted compares apples to oranges.

Thus, the press calls Trump a liar and Trump calls the press dishonest. So it just falls back to who do you believe?

From a citizen view point, federal officers sent to protect a court house is an insult. From federal officals point if view we need more help because we are being attacked and local law enforcement is doing nothing.

Do you see that in the citizens point of view the criteria is different than the federal point of view?

Same holds true with the presses numbers and the white house numbers on the p******c.

Same holds true on the Russian bounty against American troops. Therefore these issues need to be vetted.

This is where I would say to Pete, "They're putting the cart before the horse" which seems to hold true to both the president and his enemies.

Is Trump cold and callus? No I did not see that in the interview. This was shown when the reporter asked about renaming the bridge in honor of John Lewis, Trump said in many words that he would not have a problem with.that.

So to honestly, and fairly, assess the situation, I see many people on the left, not taking the time to find the common denominator and instead using prejudice and jumping to conclusions based on that prejudice. The Dems need more patience.

Now once facts and statistics come in, we as a reader of those statistics have to interpret what we are reading. We as the reader then make up our own minds.

I for one believe Trump. But that is my opinion based upon the discreditable reporting on Trump. But I for one still attempt to verify because I don't trust either the media or the government because both were discredited before. And directly that is, not indirectly like the attacks on Trump have been.

The other issue which causes great dislike for Democrats and the media is the hatred and unfair treatment of Trump. Where the sediment is he brings it upon himself.

Conservatives, or liberals, Trump supporters or anti-Trump supporters, Democrats or Republicans in today's age are all hypersensitive. Where a Democrat says Trump is unfair a republican says the attacks are unfair.

Both are right because it was unfair in the beginning that is why Trump ran to social media. So if 10% of what Trump tours as accomplishments is true and this is with half the country fighting him. Imagine what could happen if everyone Democrat or Republican started working with Trump? What could happen?

Well, we do have a statistic on that. Trump shut down the country and everyone agreed and it happened in two weeks. Imagine how fast other causes could happen if the parties would work with him what could happen. Just imagine.

I hope I answered your premise question. I hope you can understand it as I'm seeing it. There is a place in this country for both conservatives and liberals and we can live in peace together. But as far as the Marxist thinking and c*******t thinking that is unacceptable for many proven reasons. As far as r****m, Robert E Lee never wanted a statue of himself, never wanted be hailed as a hero, because the ghosts of the past would haunt future generations. He was right and that's what we got to day. Therefore my advice to all would be let it go. What has been done in the past is in the past. Let it go back to the past. R****m was defeated in the past let it die in the past. I do not live in the past, I live in the present. Quit being up the ghosts of the past.

Well this was long and necessary but this is my take on all the issues covered in the video. Enjoy.
Thank you for posting the interviews that are the ... (show quote)


You are right you have to have a base line for collecting data to allow for one to one comparison.What I heard was a common method used when you don't want the other side to be heard , the conversation was controlled by talking over statements. The question were not allowed to be completed. It would be understandable if the question were just thrown out but the change of subject was brought up. On all the question that were being asked. Now don't get me wrong some of the questions were answered.

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