Marty 2020 wrote:
No I disagree.
NWO describes the world where only the leaders have security.
Interesting. Yet another view on what people think the NWO is. The ambiguity continues. The problem I have with this definition is that there are so many examples of order in which only the leaders have security. We can even say that about our current system that we've had here in America for decades if not longer.
Marty 2020 wrote:
In communist countries, only the leaders have any power over their daily lives. Common people are at the mercy of the elites.
I'm glad you had the foresight to say "in communist countries" because I might agree with that statement understanding that we're talking about countries that
call themselves communist, rather than the actual theory of communism itself which advocates the opposite of what you described.
In fact, the communists have a term for those elites... They call them bourgeoisie and the point of the communist revolutions was to replace those elites and their system of oppression with a system in which workers can reap the benefits of their own labors. Seems a bit idealistic given the overall dysfunction of the human race, but at least now you know the theory.
In fact, most "real" systems in the world today are pretty much the what you described. Americans are also at the mercy of the elites, which in our case are the plutocrats that essentially own us.
Marty 2020 wrote:
The USA is still working for the common people.
Well, that's mostly what you call lip service.
Actually, if you're going to refer to the USA in a singular context I'm going to say it's basically kicking it's own ass. It makes more sense to see it for the plurality that it is where there are many different and often conflicting goals. So yes, there are *some* underdogs working for the common people... Well, more like "fighting" for the common people because the prevailing pattern in the USA is (and always has been) selfishness and the exploitation of the common people.
COVID-19 really exposes this in contrast to European nations that can be shut down without starving the common people. In the USA that can't happen because the USA doesn't provide for the common people like the European systems do.
I would say the percentage of the USA that is actually working for the common people is probably less than 2% and they're probably all liberals. But the percentage of the USA that pretends to help the common people is probably the other 98%
Marty 2020 wrote:
Of course there’s a little more going to the elite group because they’re the ones supplying the jobs for the commoners.
A perfect example of a well-trained slave-mind. By all means give more to the elites because you think you depend on them for jobs, nevermind the fact that the elite depend just as much on the common people to consume their products and services.
Give it some thought.
Marty 2020 wrote:
Once America gets knocked down to the level of the rest of the world, you’ll see no more dreamers of any color here, as there will be no incentive to do better. There will be “no” better.
LOL - you don't get out much do you? Incentives are alive and well in most developed nations today and many of them provide better opportunities for upward movement. Entrepreneurship is thriving in Europe, Canada, Asia and even some parts of Africa now. Wake up Marty it's not 1957 anymore.
Marty 2020 wrote:
The lack of a different world order is why all these people are trying to get in here and not swarming Venezuela or Mexico or even China.
Is that the rest of the world Marty? Venezuela, Mexico and China? Have you ever heard of Canada, France, Britain, Australia or Germany? Do you know why I mention these countries? Because they are dealing with millions of immigrants attracted to the opportunities they offer.
Marty 2020 wrote:
Once America falls so does the world.
Well, Bretton Woods kind of set it up that way by tying the currencies of the world to the dollar, but there are strong indications that some nations are looking for a way out of that headlock. If they do that America will be screwed.
Marty 2020 wrote:
Stop apologizing for being American and use your “privilege” to help someone else rise up to our level.
I'm not apologizing - I'm just being honest about my country.
Now, in my initial response to this statement I didn't see the positive aspect of what you're saying here. I have to remember that you are probably being as honest as I am and we just don't see the same conditions. That being understood, I like the positive message... Use my privilege to help others. Absolutely.
So, I'm going to take that advice. I will use what leverage I have to help my fellow Americans rise up to the level of the more progressive nations (some of which I have lived in) that offer better healthcare, education, better living standards and this is might hurt but... better freedom. And for REAL, not just lip service. Not just advertising.
I know this isn't what you had in mind, but as far as I can tell, I am helping others.
Marty 2020 wrote:
Jesus said that we’ll always have the poor. Deal with it and leave me and my country as it is, which is just fine!
Jesus said that thousands of years ago before modern society was created. We have better options now and we would like to at try them out here in America where poverty is a real issue. I'm betting Jesus wouldn't have a problem with that.