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Jul 29, 2020 20:19:14   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
proud republican wrote:
https://foxrochester.com/news/c****av***s/video-of-doctors-group-blocked-by-social-media-for-misleading-c****av***s-claims

What happened to Free Speech?? Just because you don't agree with premise that kids can and should go to school and hydroxichloroquine works and saves lives , does it mean that you have to destroy the video ??? Censorship just like C*******t Party in America is alive and well !!


LOL

1. "Free speech" has nothing to do with what happened.
2. the video wasn't destroyed.
3. censorship is a major part of the Republican platform.
4. the C*******t Party in America is tiny and harmless.

It always amazes me how people can fill their entire post with fiction and think it isn't.

Free speech is a myth. People erroneously think that if you live in America you have a right to say wh**ever you want. This has never been true in the past, it's not true today and there's no reason to expect it ever will be.

The 1st Amendment specifically prevents Congress from prohibiting speech. That's all it says. So to violate the 1st Amendment, Congress (not Twitter or Facebook but Congress, specifically) would have to pass a bill which the president would have to sign into law that prohibits speech. Only then is the 1st Amendment violated.

So if a social media platform in the private sector decides for ANY reason that it doesn't want to host a specific video, they have the FREEDOM to take it down no matter how much YOU want private businesses to be FORCED to keep hosting it.

Many companies have policies about what is acceptable and what is not. There's something called "social responsibility" that refers to the general idea that offensive language, pornographic content and things like irresponsible advice should be disallowed.

Now, I'm not going to judge the video based on it's content but I will say that if Twitter, Facebook and YouTube ALL took the video down, it strongly suggests one of two things... a) There is something very wrong with the video or b) all these companies are conspiring against the message.

I'm putting my bet on option "a" because...

1. All of these companies have existing policies that they say the content of the video violated. There's no way they can do this without the risk of a lawsuit that forces them to prove the violation. So chances are high that they can in which case, the authors should have known better (and they probably did).

2. The idea that a video can violate the policies of multiple platforms is not far-fetched.

3. The website for "America's Frontline Doctors", the group that published the video was hosted on a consumer-grade network and is currently down because their account expired. That has "legitimate" written all over it! LOL

3. I can't find a single legitimate reference to America's Frontline Doctors in any medical journal or third party report.

4. I found out that America's Frontline Doctors was funded by the Tea Party. Wow! This just gets better.

5. The message presented by the video suggested that face masks are not helpful and that hydroxychloroquine is a sufficient defense against C****-**. This is in direct contrast to what qualified medical experts are saying. (But it's exactly what Trump said). Uh-huh.

I know it's standard practice for the right to deny science, but to pose as doctors and advise Americans to dismiss the advice of legitimate professionals is pretty jacked up - especially when the lives hang in balance.

The consensus among medical experts are saying that face masks ARE helpful and hydroxychloroquine is NOT sufficient. Not heeding their advice is k*****g Americans by the thousands. And to promote that ignorance just to make Trump look better is sickening.

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Jul 29, 2020 20:22:48   #
Carol Kelly
 
proud republican wrote:
https://foxrochester.com/news/c****av***s/video-of-doctors-group-blocked-by-social-media-for-misleading-c****av***s-claims

What happened to Free Speech?? Just because you don't agree with premise that kids can and should go to school and hydroxichloroquine works and saves lives , does it mean that you have to destroy the video ??? Censorship just like C*******t Party in America is alive and well !!


This was the Promised Land, wasn’t it?

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Jul 29, 2020 21:32:37   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
This was the Promised Land, wasn’t it?

promised by who?

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Jul 29, 2020 22:06:30   #
son of witless
 
Crayons wrote:
Yes...it's worse this time, The luci's want everyone to be contact traceable with a digitally implanted ID.
Worse is the fact that the v*****e changes your DNA


How is that possible ?

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Jul 30, 2020 07:46:38   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
son of witless wrote:
How is that possible ?


Its total BS! How the hell would anyone even know, we don't have a working v*****e for distribution yet. Some hard conspiracy theory at work here.

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Jul 30, 2020 09:46:05   #
Hug
 
proud republican wrote:
I really hope it's going to backfire in November!!! American people are not stupid!!


If American people were not stupid, we would not be in the situation we are now in. The c*******t would not be gaining.

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Jul 30, 2020 09:51:39   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
son of witless wrote:
How is that possible ?


It's not. I was waiting to see if Crayons would respond to your question and not really expecting it. These folks say all kinds of stuff. People have found previous videos of that African "doctor" talking about the risks of having sex with demons for crying out loud.

The level of BS is truly astounding.

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Jul 30, 2020 10:01:04   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Its total BS! How the hell would anyone even know, we don't have a working v*****e for distribution yet. Some hard conspiracy theory at work here.


Gate's knows.

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Jul 30, 2020 10:06:33   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Hug wrote:
If American people were not stupid, we would not be in the situation we are now in. The c*******t would not be gaining.

Americans are not naturally any more stupid than any other group of humans, but we are subjected to a culture of intentional ignorance that far exceeds what I've seen anywhere else in the world. The degree to which Americans fall victim to this culture of ignorance ranges from "not buying it" to total brainwash.

I have to say though, that it's among the utterly brainwashed that we hear chatter about the rise of c*******m. So let me ask... Do you really believe c*******ts are on the rise or is "c*******t" just a derogatory term for people on the left?

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Jul 30, 2020 10:12:34   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
straightUp wrote:
Americans are not naturally any more stupid than any other group of humans, but we are subjected to a culture of intentional ignorance that far exceeds what I've seen anywhere else in the world. The degree to which Americans fall victim to this culture of ignorance ranges from "not buying it" to total brainwash.

I have to say though, that it's among the utterly brainwashed that we hear chatter about the rise of c*******m. So let me ask... Do you really believe c*******ts are on the rise or is "c*******t" just a derogatory term for people on the left?
Americans are not naturally any more stupid than a... (show quote)


NWO is c*******m, not hard to understand if you just look at history and facts.

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Jul 30, 2020 11:19:27   #
Hug
 
straightUp wrote:
Americans are not naturally any more stupid than any other group of humans, but we are subjected to a culture of intentional ignorance that far exceeds what I've seen anywhere else in the world. The degree to which Americans fall victim to this culture of ignorance ranges from "not buying it" to total brainwash.

I have to say though, that it's among the utterly brainwashed that we hear chatter about the rise of c*******m. So let me ask... Do you really believe c*******ts are on the rise or is "c*******t" just a derogatory term for people on the left?
Americans are not naturally any more stupid than a... (show quote)


C*******m is very much on the rise. We will soon lose our country If we can't slow it down, but it is just a matter of time. Right now we are Russia 1918.

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Jul 30, 2020 12:26:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
bilordinary wrote:
NWO is c*******m, not hard to understand if you just look at history and facts.

Well, I don't think you got that idea through a study of history and facts because I have studied political power for the past 40 years and there is nothing in the facts to suggest "NWO is c*******m".

"NWO" is an ambiguous term used by different people to reference different things. The common point seems to be anything tied to g*******t agendas. The first thing I laugh at is the "N". There *IS* a WO but there's nothing "N" about it? Do you understand what I'm saying?

American hegemony IS the world order and it has been since 1945, which means it is NOT new and it's not c*******t either - in fact it's based on the opposite - free-market capitalism. A common term for this world order is neoliberalism and it was supported by Republicans and Democrats alike.

The problem is that free-market capitalism gives an advantage to those who have the means to manipulate the market and from 1945 to about 1975 that advantage almost always went to America, largely because our full-throttle extraction of resources was giving us the means to manipulate the global market.

A lot of Americans wonder why our farmers are subsidized by the government and why we keep shipping grain to other countries "in need". That was market manipulation. If you flood a market with grain it drops the local prices and local farmers are not able to get ahead in the game. If you can spend the time, go ahead and look at the records... you will find delays in American foreign aid where the grain isn't shipped until after the local yields recover, so the country doesn't need the aid anymore but the American advantage depends on giving it anyway.

Countries that tried to protect their industries from this game of market manipulation were coerced by American diplomats to open their markets. If the diplomats didn't work, as was the case in places like Iran and Cuba, they ran the risk of American hostility and were often forced into agreements with the Soviet c*******ts as the only remaining option.

This is where the world divided into capitalist nations and c*******t nations.

But since the mid-70's America has been hitting it's resource peaks. (The cost of extraction exceeds the market value of what's being extracted). I'm not just talking about minerals here, I am also referring to the higher cost of labor in the U.S. which leaves investors with smaller profit margins.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world changed too... Soviet power died and developing countries that have yet to reach their peaks started to emerge from the third world attracting capital investments and eventually gaining the advantage of free-market capitalism.

America is finding out for the first time what it's like to be on the short end of the "free market" deal. As a result there is a populist uprising that is basically saying "OK, now that we're losing the game we don't want to play anymore".

Trump has tapped into that in a big way and he has become the first president to oppose free-market capitalism with a stack of big-government trade regulations and a litter of ripped up contracts. Unfortunately, our government is largely influenced by wealthy investors that have no loyalty to America and will invest wherever the returns are higher. Because of this mainstream politicians are continuing to support the same neoliberal system... the same exact world order that once made America great and is now allowing it to decline.

Most references that I am seeing among the populists to the "NWO" is directed at these mainstream politicians... Bush, Clinton, Obama, etc... But now you can see why I would not call it a "new" world order and you can see why I would certainly not call it c*******t.

What *is* new is the populist revolt against the world order that once made America great while ironically wearing MAGA hats.

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Jul 30, 2020 13:10:14   #
Hug
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, I don't think you got that idea through a study of history and facts because I have studied political power for the past 40 years and there is nothing in the facts to suggest "NWO is c*******m".

"NWO" is an ambiguous term used by different people to reference different things. The common point seems to be anything tied to g*******t agendas. The first thing I laugh at is the "N". There *IS* a WO but there's nothing "N" about it? Do you understand what I'm saying?

American hegemony IS the world order and it has been since 1945, which means it is NOT new and it's not c*******t either - in fact it's based on the opposite - free-market capitalism. A common term for this world order is neoliberalism and it was supported by Republicans and Democrats alike.

The problem is that free-market capitalism gives an advantage to those who have the means to manipulate the market and from 1945 to about 1975 that advantage almost always went to America, largely because our full-throttle extraction of resources was giving us the means to manipulate the global market.

A lot of Americans wonder why our farmers are subsidized by the government and why we keep shipping grain to other countries "in need". That was market manipulation. If you flood a market with grain it drops the local prices and local farmers are not able to get ahead in the game. If you can spend the time, go ahead and look at the records... you will find delays in American foreign aid where the grain isn't shipped until after the local yields recover, so the country doesn't need the aid anymore but the American advantage depends on giving it anyway.

Countries that tried to protect their industries from this game of market manipulation were coerced by American diplomats to open their markets. If the diplomats didn't work, as was the case in places like Iran and Cuba, they ran the risk of American hostility and were often forced into agreements with the Soviet c*******ts as the only remaining option.

This is where the world divided into capitalist nations and c*******t nations.

But since the mid-70's America has been hitting it's resource peaks. (The cost of extraction exceeds the market value of what's being extracted). I'm not just talking about minerals here, I am also referring to the higher cost of labor in the U.S. which leaves investors with smaller profit margins.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world changed too... Soviet power died and developing countries that have yet to reach their peaks started to emerge from the third world attracting capital investments and eventually gaining the advantage of free-market capitalism.

America is finding out for the first time what it's like to be on the short end of the "free market" deal. As a result there is a populist uprising that is basically saying "OK, now that we're losing the game we don't want to play anymore".

Trump has tapped into that in a big way and he has become the first president to oppose free-market capitalism with a stack of big-government trade regulations and a litter of ripped up contracts. Unfortunately, our government is largely influenced by wealthy investors that have no loyalty to America and will invest wherever the returns are higher. Because of this mainstream politicians are continuing to support the same neoliberal system... the same exact world order that once made America great and is now allowing it to decline.

Most references that I am seeing among the populists to the "NWO" is directed at these mainstream politicians... Bush, Clinton, Obama, etc... But now you can see why I would not call it a "new" world order and you can see why I would certainly not call it c*******t.

What *is* new is the populist revolt against the world order that once made America great while ironically wearing MAGA hats.
Well, I don't think you got that idea through a st... (show quote)


Sorry, but you sound like you are detached from American culture. Do you really want a government that runs the world? You know the world government would be c*******t.

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Jul 30, 2020 14:20:05   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Hug wrote:
C*******m is very much on the rise. We will soon lose our country If we can't slow it down, but it is just a matter of time. Right now we are Russia 1918.


Russians had already lost their country to c*******m by 1918 when it completed its t***sition to a Soviet Republic. Perhaps you mean to say Russia in 1916, right before things got violent?

Either way, it's clear you aren't referring to the so-called NWO like bilordinary is, which confirms my point about the ambiguity so rampant in all this word slinging.

Technically, c*******m in America is tiny and inert. There is in fact a c*******t party (CPUSA) and it currently has between 5 and 10 thousand members. Like I said... tiny. They have no seats in Congress and don't even have enough members to run candidates in our e******ns.

Not exactly Russia 1918.

The CPUSA was established in 1919 and was instrumental in the labor movements of the 20's and 30's. Since the Cold War, it has shriveled down to what it is now.

Americans today are not interested in c*******m... Not even the socialists because democratic socialism, which is the type of socialism popular in America and places like Germany and France is NOT the same thing as c*******m - not even close. Saying so makes as much sense as saying capitalism is the same thing as feudalism.

In my response to bilordinary, I mentioned how America is losing its advantage in a global free-market. As a result Americans are losing many things not the least of which are jobs. In the post-Reagan years we also saw a gradual repeal of worker protections that did not stop with Trump. So even those of us that are able to retain jobs we are not being protected the same way our parents were.

From a worker standpoint I would say a better comparison would be America 1930. And just like in 1930 capitalists are not interested in protecting workers. Why would they be when they can get the same amount work out of unprotected and therefore cheaper workers in Asia?

So yes, there is currently, in America, a rise in socialist ideas, which is to say there is an appeal to the Republic to provide for the people what big corporations and global investors refuse to provide, just like there was in 1930. And just like in 1930, these ideas range from revolutionary (a necessity for c*******ts) to the moderate.

Back then it was the moderate progressives that won the race by offering a compromise that preserved private ownership of business but offered concessions to the workers as negotiated with labor unions. Unfortunately, this may not be so easy this time around because American workers don't have the same leverage due to the abundance of foreign labor that didn't exist in 1930. In fact that's a primary reason why labor unions have died down.

The way I see America now, there are two popular reactions to the effects caused by the fact that American workers have lost value in the global economy...

There are progressives and democratic socialists that understand the situation and are looking for public solutions that they know private industry can't offer and there are the people who DON'T understand situation and cling to the hope that private industry will still give them a ride.

Then there's the 1% that own the industries and outsource jobs for better returns issuing narratives to those who do not understand the situation, telling them that ANY appeal to public interest is... c*******t. Not because it's true but because 40 years of Cold War propaganda has conditioned us to h**e c*******m whether we understand it or not and that's a useful thing for them.

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Jul 30, 2020 14:44:57   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Hug wrote:
Sorry, but you sound like you are detached from American culture.

Only to the extent that I can be objective about it.

Hug wrote:

Do you really want a government that runs the world?

The span of control doesn't matter to me as much as the nature of it. If there ever comes a world government that is fair to everyone, then sure. But as it stands right now, I don't even like the span of the federal government and I advocate sovereignty for the states.

Hug wrote:

You know the world government would be c*******t.

No, I don't know that. But I realize that it's the only ideology with a plan for it. All the other plans are conspiracies.

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