factnotfiction

These are the actual planks of several of the REFORM PARTY platforms which trump was a member of and wannabe presidential candidate.

Had no relationship with Liberals or Democrats, but was more aligned with the lies of conservatives, such a balanced budget, control of illegal immigration, smaller government, bad trade deals, etc.

But you probably forgot how so many of you know-nothings and nitwits simply loved Ross Perot when he was a political factor.


It proves you trumpcons really don't know crap about what you are always bitching, moaning and whining about

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Great, but we all know there will never be term limits, unfortunately!

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Don't like that part either!

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Exactly!

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

It would, according to what I read. We know this will never pass as a bill!

rafterman Loc: South Florida

I could/would support all EXCEPT "direct election of the United States President by popular vote" and I would have to know what were the other "election system reforms". I strongly support the Electoral College. I have done a lot of study and research about the EC since I was first introduced to it in high school in the 1960’s. Understanding the Electoral College was a priority in schools I attended. I wrote a paper on the EC for one of my university political science courses. It is apparent to me that it is easier to support disbanding the current electoral college process then it is to support maintaining it. That is due to many misconceptions and misunderstandings which can be easily justified, defended and rationalized.

I am against direct election because the election through the electoral college prohibits small pockets of the country deciding an election. The Electoral College ensures that EVERY vote counts - whether you live in a highly-populated area or in a small rural area, requiring each Presidential candidate to consider that all areas of the country are equal to another; whether you live in an area that mainly supports one political party over another; and it preserves the two-party system. The Electoral College is a "fail-safe" process for our general election of the President.

The 2016 election is one of five presidential elections in American history in which the winner of the popular vote did not win the presidency. Trump received 304 electoral votes and Clinton 227 (two electors defected from Trump and five defected from Clinton). Clinton received 48% while Trump 46% of the popular vote, a margin of about 3 million votes. Trump won 2,626 counties while Clinton took 487 of them nationwide.
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:5265150031

The 2016 election is a good example of "ensuring every vote counts" as the President is elected to work for the benefit of all the people who live in the United States, not to represent a geographic or geographical region. The legislative branch of the U.S. federal government was specifically established over 200 years ago, utilizing a bicameral (two-tiered) system in which one chamber (The House) represents states based on population, while the other chamber (The Senate) represents all states equally, regardless of population.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-clinton-counties-won/

Understanding the Electoral College is an easy undertaking. Read this article, "What is the Electoral College" at https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/about.html. Also, view these two videos 5-minute videos: the first is titled "Popular Vote vs Electoral College" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXnjGD7j2B0 and the second is titled "Understanding the Electoral College" at https://tinyurl.com/y4t9472z. This link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College provides a good “top to bottom” understanding/explanation of the Electoral College especially how the Three-fifths clause and the role of slavery influenced the implementation. A Youtube.com search results in a number of videos at https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=electoral+college. A google.com search returns over 70 million hits at https://tinyurl.com/yymvgfaa.

One item I noted that came about from my recent research that I found extremely enlightening. The belief that “all areas of the country are equal to another” may not be accurate. Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_United_States_presidential_election candidate Kennedy's campaigning skills decisively outmatched candidate Nixon's, who wasted time and resources campaigning in all fifty states while Kennedy focused on campaigning in populous swing states. Election analytics website FiveThirtyEight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FiveThirtyEight identifies the states of Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin as "perennial" swing states that have regularly seen close contests over the last few presidential campaigns.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Very informative. Thank you.

steve66613

"So the Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani. This is not company I wish to keep."[13][14

Quote by Donald Trump

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

So what's wrong with balanced budget, control of illegal immigration, smaller government ?

O now I get it you're of the liberal idea that giving out all the free stuff food stamps welfare etc etc is being compassionate instead of having jobs that folks can get their self respect to feel good and provide for their families and put aside some money for rainy days !

How dare those nasty Conservatives make able bodied people to work for their lively hood

bikerjack60

They lie to get elected and then don't even try to keep their promises. And dumb people still vote for them.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Trump has been doing pretty good at keeping his promises and even doing so without the help of the Democrats

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

Definitely more parties would help. I have belonged to a third party or registered as unaffiliated since 1964. The problem I see is that I am frequently told by others that I am wasting my vote if I don’t vote for their party. That seems to me to be a subtle way of negating third party votes. I also don’t really believe we have a two party system but we have a Dem/Rep or Rep/Dem system, one pretending to be two. Until about 2000 the two party system seemed to get along well enough to force out any third party idea but since they seem to be fighting like siblings without a parent to keep the civil.

son of witless

" Limited access by lobbyists and special interest groups "

Di-int that Black Guy, what's his face, lie about that one when he was President ?

factnotfiction

Talking about the Reform Party, you know the party of perot and trump

Pay attention, it is free, even to the likes of you

son of witless

Was there more to your post ? Maybe I must fill in the blanks to your cryptic post ? Ask my Wife, I am not good at mind reading.