Carol Kelly

Mississippians were not traitors. The Constitution gave them the right to secede.
I’ve said again and again we didn’t secede because of slavery. We seceded for states’ rights. Maybe some were of the other persuasion.

the J man Loc: California

from the lips of a true racist, you need to crawl back under your rock

ImLogicallyRight

Oh woody, your showing your lack of cognitive thinking again.
***You have no skin in this game...STOP
>Right. but I also have a right to offer a compromise solution giving each side a little. How compromise works. Not your cheap dictates.

***You hate laws done quickly, mob rules, blah blah blah
>>>Yes I do. Because they more often then not are bad laws. But people like you would rather poke a stick in the eye of people who happen to have different viewpoints from you. And they might be more right then you.

***And it will never occur to you that when people on the wrong side of a despicable war fought for the wrong reasons they died, they lost, they go away, they do not get traitorous losers memorialized for their great fights and heroism, they go away, it's over.
>>>There were many people who fought for the wrong reasons, saving slavery. There were many more who fought for their State's rights and the legitimate belief that their State had the right to move on in what was like a bad marriage to them. They wanted a no fault divorce. And for them it was not about slavery, but the same kind of freedom our Revolutionary War was fought over.

***What do you think the south will rise again means when spoken by a racist bigot?
>>>I don't know. I'd have to ask the bigot. What does it mean when someone who isn't a bigot says it?

***Confederate crap is gone, done, over
>>> No it isn't...
***it's bad despicable history.
>>>Some of it was
***When this last fight is over and people don't have to be reminded of traitors it will be done, get over it.
>>>They weren't traitors. They wanted a clean break with the other States as in a bad marriage and wanting a divorce. Even Lincoln's main reason for fighting the war was not about slavery, but saving the Union.

***If my ancestors fought to keep slavery I would not cherish them as heroes,
>>>I wouldn't either. But for those that didn't fight for slavery, but for States Rights, I would honor them and wish to continue to honor them with flags and monuments.

***I'd acknowledge they fought a bad and ignorant fight that tore the country up,
>>>I'd acknowledge that many fought for the wrong reasons and many more fought for our freedom

***and the same thing will happen when this Trumpism crap is done.
>>>And as usual, you show your usual cheap hatred for our President, an issue that is not part of the discussion at hand, and shows you are as usual blinded by hatred and unable to see the whole picture. You just show how pathetic you can be.

Logically Right

Carol Kelly

The Confederates did what Americans did when they seceded from England due to tyrannical government and over taxation,

Carol Kelly

Without the facilities of the North, the South gave them a grand fight.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

And the point of all that crap you wrote is what exactly. I think "the civil war" would make an interesting topic, what you say Sam?

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

I don't actually think "over taxation" is true. Tariffs were litter in 1860 rush any time since 1816. The southern states seceded to preserve slavery and maintain white supremacy.