Auntie Dee

The Civil War ended in 1865, 155 years ago! The South is now every bit as much of the United States as is the North...why are Democrats trying to fight this battle all over again?? How much time does it take to bury the hatchet??

Why would you want to follow in the steps of what Germany did? What another country did or did not do with their history has NO bearing on what the USA could or should do! Why you would even suggest such a thing tells me you are just grabbing at straws & trying to justify your own reasoning!

We as Republicans have always been less resentful and more understanding of the COMPLETE history of the USA, rather than trying to pick apart only the pieces that fit some made-up agenda!

The modern-day communist Democrats seems to need something to HATE, something to rile against, something to keep their activists, news commentators & politicians in a constantly aggregated state, maybe they are just addicted to the adrenaline hate flowing in their veins much like a narcotic addict! They now purposely seek out the most maladjusted & self-victimized members of our society to further their hate-filled negative campaigns! Then they they have the nerve to blame the Republicans as the CAUSE of their problems!

Yes, Republicans and Democrats both died for what they believed was right in the Civil War, why are we not allowed to honor our heroes? Why do the Democrats think ONLY they should have that honor?? We are ALL citizens of the once more United States! Seems to me like the LEFT is only trying to divide us all over again!!

Seth

Divide and conquer.

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JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Amen. Doesn't get any more hypocritical then that.

son of witless

It is good that you statue haters have killed those evil Confederate and Christian and American statues because those statues collectively Killed George Floyd. As far as Robert E. Lee, you obviously have never bothered to read any original material from the period.

As far as defending the Confederacy, it was an important part of American history. I and all of my family have always been Yankees, but I resent the hooligans and slimeballs on your side who disrespect those who fought and died for what they believed in.

I think that perhaps in a century or a century and a half a new group of snowflakes will arise in America. They will need something to destroy, something to use as a scapegoat for what ever problems them have. I recommend that they begin destroying all buildings and things with Byrd on them in W. Virginia, then finish up by trashing the Barak Hussein Obama Libery and carwash in Chicago.

jwrevagent

It is part of our history, and we should never forget the atrocities and horror of slavery. But the other thing is that these people who are defacing and destroying statues are pretty ignorant of our history. They tear down the statue of US Grant-whose father in law gave him a slave, whom he freed, and went on to defeat the south in that war. They tear down the Robert Gould Shaw and the 54th regiment memorial which was to honor the black regiment that fought for the Union in the Civil War. Perhaps instead of destroying monuments, they should first learn the history and why the monument was deemed to be a good idea. Again, these thugs are simply showing they will destroy just to destroy, with no real aim in mind-as shown by the inconsistencies of their rhetoric and their targets. They claim to be about how Black Lives Matter, yet they say not a word about all the Black on Black killing in record numbers in Chicago, the black abortions, the murders of blacks in large cities all over the country-and instead they hold up as their heroes, the thugs that police have killed-Floyd George, a man certainly worthy of emulation, right? Brown in Ferguson, coming from a hold up and theft, Trayvon Martin who was such a pillar of the community his own family kicked him out of his house, and the pictures the media showed were of a much younger man, because the current one was a bully, tattooed and pierced and looked very much like a street thug-yup, these are men everyone should emulate, huh? Instead, why do you not bring up Emmet Till? The list of lynching of blacks in our history is long-there were some whites lynched, a few Chinese, and some Italians, but mostly black men. We need to remember the shameful way we treated the American Indian and the Blacks as well, but put it in the perspective of history. There was the "Manifest Destiny" thing going on. The thinking and the culture was a totally different thing back then, just as in Europe there was a time when kings ruled by "Divine Right." That is simply part of our history-also recall that for the slave trade, many African families sold there own family members into slavery knowing they would likely never see them again. Look at our entire history, please, if that is your true intent. I doubt it is, though, since you pick and choose which black lives matter and which do not. And that is what YOU don't get, sir.

Seth

Bravo!

moldyoldy

Keep glorifying our enemies.

Seth

America has met the enemy, and it is your ilk.

son of witless

Nobody mentioned Obama.

moldyoldy

In April 1865, after four years of civil war, Lee surrendered the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia and soon afterward accepted the presidency of Washington College in Lexington, Virginia. Letters seeking support for memorial projects received reluctant responses from the general-turned-educator, according to documents at the University of Virginia and the Library of Congress. Lee worried that building memorials so soon after the war would anger the victorious Federals.

“As regards the erection of such a monument as is contemplated, my conviction is, that however grateful it would be to the feelings of the South, the attempt in the present condition of the country would have the effect of retarding, instead of accelerating its accomplishment, and of continuing, if not adding to, the difficulties under which the Southern people labour,” he wrote.

In June 1866, Lee criticized a plan to build a monument to Gen. Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson, whose fatal wounding at Chancellorsville three years prior had deprived the Army of Northern Virginia of its best corps commander. How could Lee ask war-ravaged families to contribute money for memorials when they lacked funds for food? “I do not think it feasible at this time,” he wrote.


It’s not strictly accurate to say that Lee’s objections to memorializing the Civil War applied only to Confederate monuments, however. A letter he wrote to David McConaughy of the Gettysburg Battlefield Memorial Association in 1869, in which he turned down an invitation to participate in their preservation efforts, made clear his conviction that it was more important for the nation to heal than to perpetuate the memory of the “civil strife” it had so recently undergone. The letter was quoted in a 21 November 1957 article in the Chicago Tribune:

“My engagements will not permit me to be present, and I believe if there I could not add anything material to the information existing on the subject,” Lee wrote to David McConaughy. “I think it well, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered.”

Horn quotes this passage as well, saying of Lee

Rather than raising battlefield memorials, he favored erasing battlefields from the landscape altogether…. Lee feared that these reminders of the past would preserve fierce passions for the future. Such emotions threatened his vision for speedy reconciliation. As he saw it, bridging a divided country justified abridging history in places.

Lee’s zeal for North-South reconciliation verged on the evangelical, judging from some of his postwar statements. Another of his biographers, Charles Bracelen Flood, recounted an anecdote that speaks to Lee’s conviction that the formerly warring factions — particularly the side that lost, his side, the South — needed to forgive and forget and get on with the business of being Americans:

Lee knew that the war was over and that everything depended on a new attitude for a new day. He was taken to call on a lady who lived north of Lexington, and she promptly showed him the remains of a tree in her yard. All its limbs had been shot off by Federal artillery fire during Hunter’s raid, and its trunk torn by cannonballs. The woman looked at him expectantly as she showed him this memento of what she and her property had endured. Here was a man who would sympathize.

Lee finally spoke. “Cut it down, my dear Madam, and forget it.”

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/robert-e-lee-confederate-monuments/

Mikeyavelli

I think replacing all controversial statues with a permanently fixed Trump statue is the answer.
That will stop the nonsense in tearing down statues of people who formed America.

badbobby Loc: texas

good post my friend
kinda looks at both sides

moldyoldy

We missed you.

Rose42

Great post.

badbobby Loc: texas

not completely back Moldy
just had to comment on the statue thing
but it's nice to see a friend