JFlorio wrote:
Not true from what I’ve read, seen, on the news, and from their own videos. ANTIFA and BLM were there in force. Come on. You know this. The far or alt right idiots are very small in population. You really think all those black people running out of the stores with stolen goods are with the alt right. Use some of that vaunted I. Q..Read BLM founders and what they say they are for.
Yes BLM was there is force, I have not seen anything that would lead me to that conclusion for Antifa. I have seen several of the BLM posts that went out when they were getting these protests together and every one of them made it clear the organizers wanted no rioting, no violence, no looting, and they encouraged everyone that came out to wear a mask. I have seen BLM organizers and their followers time after time trying to stop the anarchy on live TV. They understand that the country would support peaceful protests, but not violent protests. If they do want to change the country, looting, rioting and violence is not the way.
I have seen evidence that some of the violence was definitely perpetrated by right wing groups, which unfortunately are much more prevalent in this country and have been around longer and had more time to develop than Antifa or BLM by an exponential amount.
I have also seen those groups of black clad white people come in during the early days and incite things changing calm protests into raging destruction. Saw one clip where the BLM folks took down some of these guys and pulled their masks off and lo and behold, a white guy was underneath.
I believe it will be borne out that much of the very worst stuff was perpetrated by these folks. We know it was a Boogaloo dude in the military that killed two police officers in California, not Antifa or BLM. It was a Boogaloo type who shot a protester in New Mexico a few weeks back. It was a white supremacist group that sent out a fake notice of call to action for Antifa for the Floyd protests.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456According to what I have found, hate groups in general have grown by 30% in this country since 2014, and white nationalist groups have increased by 55% since Trump took office.
https://www.counterextremism.com/content/us-white-supremacy-groupshttps://www.splcenter.org/hate-mapAnd yes once the vandalism started, there were plenty of thugs that took advantage and looted stores, but also plenty of times when BLM and other protesters halted these actions.
So there is plenty of blame to go around, but I can support every claim I just made. We don't know for sure but if Antifa was involved I doubt it was in any significant way outside of maybe what happened in Seattle. I believe BLM tried to have peaceful protests and that many of the protesters actually defended private property from the anarchists that were also there, and I have proof that the far right was involved. The violent protest in Minneapolis were apparently helped out by another bunch of Boogaloo types, several of whom where arrested when their plan to throw molatov cocktails at police was uncovered.
Anyway there seems to be a lot more proof that Boogaloo and other far right groups were much more involved in the violence and destruction than I have been able to find on Antifa.
Currently there are some 1020 hate groups in the country with who knows how many members. And they all likely want you to think it was Antifa and BLM that caused all the major problems. I don't buy it and the data does not support these claims either.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sethcohen/2020/06/16/civil-war-20-the-boogaloo-movement-is-a-wake-up-call-for-america/#3ebbfe2371abhttps://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/3-alleged-boogaloo-members-charged-in-las-vegas-protests-2044384/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/style/boogaloo-hawaiian-shirt.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/tech/facebook-boogaloo-ban/index.htmlhttps://publicintegrity.org/politics/white-extremist-groups-are-growing-and-changing/ https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/27/the-boogaloo-movement-is-not-what-you-think/https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/06/16/albuquerque-protest-civil-guard-stephen-baca-arrested/3198382001/So I worry more about these white nationalist groups that want to start a second civil war (that is Boogaloo's prime claim to fame) and that have become so prevalent than I do about Antifa and BLM at this point in time.