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Jun 7, 2020 20:02:11   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Thank you- It is the only thing I can think of. Just live and let live and don't cause trouble for people who are not hurting you.. I don't know what else to do.


Correct. But I am still waiting for one of our Liberals to explain to me how Blacks looting, burning and destroying Black owned businesses gets justice for anyone. My wife and I were business owners before we retired and we worked our asses off. I expect the Black business owners whose lives were ruined did the same.

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Jun 7, 2020 20:04:54   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Correct. But I am still waiting for one of our Liberals to explain to me how Blacks looting, burning and destroying Black owned businesses gets justice for anyone. My wife and I were business owners before we retired and we worked our asses off. I expect the Black business owners whose lives were ruined did the same.


Not to mention the murder of a retired black police chief by black looters as the x chief was helping a friend defend his business from looters. By all accounts the chief was a great guy and helped many underprivileged youth in his area. Doesn't look like these protests did him much good.

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Jun 7, 2020 20:09:07   #
Gatsby
 
JFlorio wrote:
Does seem that way. What person in their right mind wants no police but a criminal?


Hugh Glass comes to mind.

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Jun 7, 2020 20:11:09   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Gatsby wrote:
Hugh Glass comes to mind.


He was his own police since I don't believe there was any in the areas he traveled.

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Jun 7, 2020 20:19:27   #
Auntie Dee
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
That's a nice answer coos. I think they want lots of free stuff. They want groveling and begging for forgiveness.

Let me tell you. My folks worked side by side with blacks in the fields of east Texas. My mom, 5.0 ft tall, 90 pounds, picked cotton with bleeding hands with my dad from sun up to sun down. Her take on the blacks was that they were afraid of everything and could not take pain.

My folks will yield no compensation, monetary, social, psychological, or what ever. Not will I.

We are equal. We have equal opportunity.

Time for all races to get to work.
That's a nice answer coos. I think they want lots... (show quote)


I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "They want "black privilege." That is why they try to use "White Privilege" as a hammer to try to force something from our society, that they were not able to achieve on their own.

There have been millions of blacks who have taken advantage of the feedom and opportunities that America offers to better themselves and their families, but like in all societies there are those who either "did not" or "could not" benefit for one reason or another. There will NEVER BE AN EQUAL SOCIETY....that view is a socialist Utopian pipe-dream! In the meantime, the Democrat party has continuing to promise blacks something they HAVE NOT & CANNOT DELIVER! It is by that tactic they have maneuvered to keep most blacks on the proverbial "plantation" for their votes, they have become the pawns in a high-stakes chess game.

Dem's have promised for generations that the will solve all of black society's problems and right the wrongs that have been dealt & that they will make them EQUAL...whatever that means to them! They have been lied to, they have been fooled, they have been tricked, they have been used unfairly & now SOME (certainly not all) are just trying to even the score.

Unfortunately, most do not YET realize why or how this has happened & who is really to blame!! The MSM tells them it is "whitey" & Trump and they gobble it up!

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Jun 7, 2020 20:21:27   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
Amen Arch. I need a dog. Have everything else. My three cats can't catch a squirrel. I bought survival food a while back simply because of the hurricane situations that creep up here now and again. So, I feel pretty safe. Having one of my generators wired into my fuse box this week.


We've been talking about the generator thing lately. We'll have to get a large propane tank to run it, but, it's on the table for sure!

We live in crazy times, and thankfully, things are peaceful here so far.

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Jun 7, 2020 20:45:32   #
American Vet
 
Fodaoson wrote:
The protestors are protesting unnecessary police violence. Floyd was on the ground and handcuffed, there was no need to sit on his neck for nine minutes on a knee. Unnecessary violence. The protesters hope to make police more humane.
BLM is a movement to bring attention to violence against black suspects. Rioters and looters are just criminals run amok.


Unnecessary police violence.

So, I pose this question: who controls the Minneapolis police department?

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Jun 7, 2020 21:06:16   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Like I said Tom, sounds good but will never happen. The Golden Rule has been around forever. Most live their lives using this rule. So how does one bad cop, who is probably going to get his just dues (I pray) perpetrating a horrific act justify all the BS we are seeing now? I guess I want to know how defunding the police force makes the people in those neighborhoods any safer?


I think defunding the police force is an idiotic idea -that's obvious. My thoughts are police sometimes need to police themselves when it comes to neccesary force used on arrestees. Look I know if you are a jailer for instance you wind up beating down drunks that want to fight sometimes. I know cops get shot as soon as they walk up on a car sometimes. Cops get beaten up breaking up fights and helping women in domestic disputes. I know it is bad. There does need to be mental help for this kind of stress. Your attitude can make you think everybody is shit when you deal with shit every day. Where do you think that leads? Not to condone the deliberate killing of Floyd Brown but it should have been avoidable. I want to believe there is going to be an awareness now and an honest effort in our police forces to help officers cope with stress and train all in guidelines that do not result in beatings and deaths of those who are in their custody.

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Jun 7, 2020 21:11:49   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I agree. I think one of the problems is police policing themselves. I’m not sure who should do it. Certainly not politicians or members of fringe groups such as BLM. Maybe boards as diverse as civil right attorneys, constitutional attorneys, x police chiefs and someone from the Justice Department.
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I think defunding the police force is an idiotic idea -that's obvious. My thoughts are police sometimes need to police themselves when it comes to neccesary force used on arrestees. Look I know if you are a jailer for instance you wind up beating down drunks that want to fight sometimes. I know cops get shot as soon as they walk up on a car sometimes. Cops get beaten up breaking up fights and helping women in domestic disputes. I know it is bad. There does need to be mental help for this kind of stress. Your attitude can make you think everybody is shit when you deal with shit every day. Where do you think that leads? Not to condone the deliberate killing of Floyd Brown but it should have been avoidable. I want to believe there is going to be an awareness now and an honest effort in our police forces to help officers cope with stress and train all in guidelines that do not result in beatings and deaths of those who are in their custody.
I think defunding the police force is an idiotic i... (show quote)

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Jun 7, 2020 21:13:12   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Correct. But I am still waiting for one of our Liberals to explain to me how Blacks looting, burning and destroying Black owned businesses gets justice for anyone. My wife and I were business owners before we retired and we worked our asses off. I expect the Black business owners whose lives were ruined did the same.


“I am still waiting for one of our Liberals to explain to me how Blacks looting, burning and destroying Black owned businesses gets justice for anyone.”
The looters and rioters are not seeking justice, They are thieves and robbers who think only of themselves. They don’t concentrate on blackownd business, they are opportunists. Anything of value will be a target,The diamond district of New York is mostly conservative jewish Merchants. Target stores are not black owned businesses. The thieves and rioters are not seeking justice,they are seeking “freebies”. The protestors are probably as upset as anyone with the criminals taking over . This is not a Liberal versus conservative , left versus right issue. It is criminals versus law abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to address the government for a redress of grievances . The grievances are the perception of unequal treatment of minorities by law enforcement.The protestors include a large number of white citizens

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Jun 7, 2020 21:16:08   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
That's a nice answer coos. I think they want lots of free stuff. They want "black privilege." They want control. They want groveling and begging for forgiveness.

Let me tell you. My folks worked side by side with blacks in the fields of east Texas. My mom, 5.0 ft tall, 90 pounds, picked cotton with bleeding hands with my dad from sun up to sun down. Her take on the blacks was that they were afraid of everything and could not take pain.

My folks will yield no compensation, monetary, social, psychological, or what ever. Not will I.

We are equal. We have equal opportunity.

Time for all races to get to work.
That's a nice answer coos. I think they want lots... (show quote)
That's the way it is .People get lazy and don't want to change their ways and means. -- As for me I work I respect other workers no matter what their race.

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Jun 7, 2020 21:18:31   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
I agree. I think one of the problems is police policing themselves. I’m not sure who should do it. Certainly not politicians or members of fringe groups such as BLM. Maybe boards as diverse as civil right attorneys, constitutional attorneys, x police chiefs and someone from the Justice Department.


You are on to something J

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Jun 7, 2020 22:03:25   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I think defunding the police force is an idiotic idea -that's obvious. My thoughts are police sometimes need to police themselves when it comes to neccesary force used on arrestees. Look I know if you are a jailer for instance you wind up beating down drunks that want to fight sometimes. I know cops get shot as soon as they walk up on a car sometimes. Cops get beaten up breaking up fights and helping women in domestic disputes. I know it is bad. There does need to be mental help for this kind of stress. Your attitude can make you think everybody is shit when you deal with shit every day. Where do you think that leads? Not to condone the deliberate killing of Floyd Brown but it should have been avoidable. I want to believe there is going to be an awareness now and an honest effort in our police forces to help officers cope with stress and train all in guidelines that do not result in beatings and deaths of those who are in their custody.
I think defunding the police force is an idiotic i... (show quote)


Right on Tom!!

We have a nephew who has been a cop since college. Long story, but he worked his way up to special crimes investigator. Sort of CSI, I guess.

Seeing what humans do to other humans eventually got to him, and now he is doing traffic accident investigations.

Law enforcement sees the worst of humanity, and it takes a mental toll.

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Jun 7, 2020 22:13:28   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
archie bunker wrote:
Right on Tom!!

We have a nephew who has been a cop since college. Long story, but he worked his way up to special crimes investigator. Sort of CSI, I guess.

Seeing what humans do to other humans eventually got to him, and now he is doing traffic accident investigations.

Law enforcement sees the worst of humanity, and it takes a mental toll.
I have a few cousins who are cops or married to one. and I know a few cops that I sometimes work for. My cousin Phil was shot at three times by a suspect and each time he begged the suspect to put the gun down and told him he didn't want to hurt him. The last shot tore the shoulder on his jacket so he killed the shooter. He had a nervous breakdown when he found out the shooter was mentally retarded and was having an episode.

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Jun 7, 2020 22:19:09   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
JFlorio wrote:

I actually don’t care what side of the aisle you’re on with your answer for my question. I’ve been watching these demonstrations, riots, and looting now for a week. My Question is?

Just what is it those above mentioned groups want? And how will what they want be obtained?
Fodaoson wrote:
The protestors are protesting unnecessary police violence. Floyd was on the ground and handcuffed, there was no need to sit on his neck for nine minutes on a knee. Unnecessary violence. The protesters hope to make police more humane.
BLM is a movement to bring attention to violence against black suspects. Rioters and looters are just criminals run amok.
The white cop vs black suspect scenario has been under the microscope for quite some time. Tension between the police and blacks has been increasing for years. The Minneapolis incident was merely the trigger that unleashed this madness.

As the rioting spread, mob mentality once again reared its ugly head, moral codes went down the crapper, behavior became emotional rather than rational. Mob mentality is contagious, like a virus, it spreads through groups and neighborhoods infecting even stable individuals.

The violence now, the destruction and the burning, has nothing to do with George Floyd's death, his death is just the excuse.

The democrat party needed a voter base that is completely dependent on them remaining in power, so for generations, the Masters of the Democrat Plantation brainwashed millions into believing the world (i.e. government) owes them something. They were promised cake and got nothing but crumbs.

The death of a black man at the hands of a white cop opened the flood gates for them to take what their masters would or could never give them. Even the idea of having to pay money for things they need is abhorrent, so any store or shop or business is fair game.

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"Floyd can kiss my ass, I'm gonna get my mudafukin cake."
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